Empiricism is a view that all concepts originate in experience, that all concepts are about or applicable to things that can be experienced. The tenets of empiricism promotes a back to the basics approach to knowledge, where theoretical concepts are scrutinized for their applicability to the real world. Many believe that only empirical knowledge should be considered truth, as anything less is a diversion into fantasy and conjecture.
In order for a concept to be empirical it must be testable. That is, it cannot exist only in hypothesis or idea. A concept which is completely hypothetical, existing mainly in the imagination, is unemperical. Let us consider the following.
Our Environment
FET predicts that the earth is flat. To test this we need to look out our window. We will see a plane extending farther than the eye can see. - Testable
RET predicts that the earth is at such a convenient size that it creates the illusion of being flat. - Untestable
Gravitation
FET predicts that gravitation is caused by an upwardly accelerating earth. To test this we will need to stand up on the edge of our chair and walk off the edge while observing the surface of the earth carefully. The earth will appear to accelerate up towards the observer - Testable
RET predicts that “graviton particles” no one has ever seen are pulling objects towards the surface of the earth. There should be trillions of tiny graviton particles whooshing around us at every moment of the day creating the illusion of an accelerating earth. - Untestable
Movement of the earth
FET predicts that the earth is still and the celestial bodies whirl above our heads. To test this we simply need to sit on our porch for a while and watch as the sun and stars move through the sky on their own accord as the earth remains still - Testable
RET predicts that the earth is in constant motion, spinning like a top at over a thousand miles an hour at the equator, the appearance of moving celestial bodies being an illusion. – Untestable
microgravity variations as evidence against universal acceleration.
Our Environment
FET predicts that the earth is flat. To test this we need to look out our window. We will see a plane extending farther than the eye can see. - Testable
RET predicts that the earth is at such a convenient size that it creates the illusion of being flat. - Untestable
Gravitation
FET predicts that gravitation is caused by an upwardly accelerating earth. To test this we will need to stand up on the edge of our chair and walk off the edge while observing the surface of the earth carefully. The earth will appear to accelerate up towards the observer - Testable
RET predicts that “graviton particles” no one has ever seen are pulling objects towards the surface of the earth. There should be trillions of tiny graviton particles whooshing around us at every moment of the day creating the illusion of an accelerating earth. - Untestable
Movement of the earth
FET predicts that the earth is still and the celestial bodies whirl above our heads. To test this we simply need to sit on our porch for a while and watch as the sun and stars move through the sky on their own accord as the earth remains still - Testable
RET predicts that the earth is in constant motion, spinning like a top at over a thousand miles an hour at the equator, the appearance of moving celestial bodies being an illusion. – Untestable
RET predicts that “graviton particles” no one has ever seen are pulling objects towards the surface of the earth. There should be trillions of tiny graviton particles whooshing around us at every moment of the day creating the illusion of an accelerating earth. - UntestableActually, that's just one model of gravitation. Another model predicts that mass affects space-time by warping it resulting in gravitation. This has several predictable and observable effects, such as gravitational lensing and gravitational waves (observations of which have just recently been confirmed).
RET predicts that “graviton particles” no one has ever seen are pulling objects towards the surface of the earth. There should be trillions of tiny graviton particles whooshing around us at every moment of the day creating the illusion of an accelerating earth. - UntestableActually, that's just one model of gravitation. Another model predicts that mass affects space-time by warping it resulting in gravitation. This has several predictable and observable effects, such as gravitational lensing and gravitational waves (observations of which have just recently been confirmed).
Many believe that only empirical knowledge should be considered truth, as anything less is a diversion into fantasy and conjecture.
Empiricism is a view that all concepts originate in experience, that all concepts are about or applicable to things that can be experienced. The tenets of empiricism promotes a back to the basics approach to knowledge, where theoretical concepts are scrutinized for their applicability to the real world. Many believe that only empirical knowledge should be considered truth, as anything less is a diversion into fantasy and conjecture.
As I recall, frame dragging has been observed as well.RET predicts that “graviton particles” no one has ever seen are pulling objects towards the surface of the earth. There should be trillions of tiny graviton particles whooshing around us at every moment of the day creating the illusion of an accelerating earth. - UntestableActually, that's just one model of gravitation. Another model predicts that mass affects space-time by warping it resulting in gravitation. This has several predictable and observable effects, such as gravitational lensing and gravitational waves (observations of which have just recently been confirmed).
And time dilation, don't forget time dilation.
RET predicts that the earth is at such a convenient size that it creates the illusion of being flat. - Untestable
RET predicts that the earth is at such a convenient size that it creates the illusion of being flat. - Untestable
Incorrect. This claim is eminently testable, and it is ironic (best case), hypocritical (middle case), or flatly dishonest (worst case) for YOU of all people to claim otherwise when the BISHOP EXPERIMENT is the very test one needs! While I remain unconvinced by the results obtained by FE proponents in the Bishop Experiment, the fact that a test exists at all means the RE position is, in fact, TESTABLE.
As to why I am unconvinced: temperature inversion is a common atmospheric phenomenon in the Monterey area. This creates the potential for refraction to extend the visibility of objects beyond the horizon. The fact that the observation must be conducted "On a very clear and chilly day" is a clear indication of what is going on there.
Contrast with the Chicago version of the experiment, looking across Lake Michigan:
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/6f9feb69ed84c9ba402c1dd44109a2f4.gif)
And the Toronto version, looking across Lake Ontario:
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/e24b17fcf78f5841927709deaf58ded7.gif)
RET predicts that the earth is at such a convenient size that it creates the illusion of being flat. - Untestable
Incorrect. This claim is eminently testable, and it is ironic (best case), hypocritical (middle case), or flatly dishonest (worst case) for YOU of all people to claim otherwise when the BISHOP EXPERIMENT is the very test one needs! While I remain unconvinced by the results obtained by FE proponents in the Bishop Experiment, the fact that a test exists at all means the RE position is, in fact, TESTABLE.
As to why I am unconvinced: temperature inversion is a common atmospheric phenomenon in the Monterey area. This creates the potential for refraction to extend the visibility of objects beyond the horizon. The fact that the observation must be conducted "On a very clear and chilly day" is a clear indication of what is going on there.
Contrast with the Chicago version of the experiment, looking across Lake Michigan:
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/6f9feb69ed84c9ba402c1dd44109a2f4.gif)
And the Toronto version, looking across Lake Ontario:
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/e24b17fcf78f5841927709deaf58ded7.gif)
What is this attempting to show?
Empiricism is a view that all concepts originate in experience, that all concepts are about or applicable to things that can be experienced. The tenets of empiricism promotes a back to the basics approach to knowledge, where theoretical concepts are scrutinized for their applicability to the real world. Many believe that only empirical knowledge should be considered truth, as anything less is a diversion into fantasy and conjecture.
In order for a concept to be empirical it must be testable. That is, it cannot exist only in hypothesis or idea. A concept which is completely hypothetical, existing mainly in the imagination, is unemperical. Let us consider the following.
Our Environment
FET predicts that the earth is flat. To test this we need to look out our window. We will see a plane extending farther than the eye can see. - Testable
RET predicts that the earth is at such a convenient size that it creates the illusion of being flat. - Untestable
Gravitation
FET predicts that gravitation is caused by an upwardly accelerating earth. To test this we will need to stand up on the edge of our chair and walk off the edge while observing the surface of the earth carefully. The earth will appear to accelerate up towards the observer - Testable
RET predicts that “graviton particles” no one has ever seen are pulling objects towards the surface of the earth. There should be trillions of tiny graviton particles whooshing around us at every moment of the day creating the illusion of an accelerating earth. - Untestable
Movement of the earth
FET predicts that the earth is still and the celestial bodies whirl above our heads. To test this we simply need to sit on our porch for a while and watch as the sun and stars move through the sky on their own accord as the earth remains still - Testable
RET predicts that the earth is in constant motion, spinning like a top at over a thousand miles an hour at the equator, the appearance of moving celestial bodies being an illusion. – Untestable
What is this attempting to show?
No, it was a legitimate question made out of curiosity. Is it a mirage or is it actual objects we see? Is it trying to show the curvature of earth is what's blocking the bottom of the buildings?
Either way it's interesting for a number of reasons, but mainly because it shows that the earth must be bigger than we're lead to believe, because the original analysis of the photos was to show something that should be impossible to see based on the calculation of the curvature based on a 25000km circumference.
RANGE ESTIMATION
Question CIC concerning the radar ranges to visual contacts and compare them
with your estimated range.The only readily available reference point you can use when estimating ranges is theFigure 5-5: Range – Height Table
RANGE TO HORIZON
horizon. Knowing your height above the waterline will help you estimate ranges because
the distance to the horizon varies with the height of the eye (Figure 5-5).
At a height of 50 feet, for example, the distance to the horizon is about 16,000 yards (8
miles); at a height of 100 feet, the distance is about 23,000 yards (11-1/2 miles). Practice estimating ranges to other vessels in company whose distances are known or can be easily determined.
I meant 25,000 miles... But anyway, what does the shape of earth have to do with viewing distances? The perspective effect would be the same and that chart has no mention of curvature at all. One thing round earth fails to rectify is the fact the horizon is always level center no matter how high you go. At no point do you look down to see it. Any computer simulation of a sphere, no matter how big, and a rising camera results in the "horizon" dropping.
I meant 25,000 miles... But anyway, what does the shape of earth have to do with viewing distances? The perspective effect would be the same and that chart has no mention of curvature at all. One thing round earth fails to rectify is the fact the horizon is always level center no matter how high you go. At no point do you look down to see it. Any computer simulation of a sphere, no matter how big, and a rising camera results in the "horizon" dropping.So many flat earth supporters say: