The Flat Earth Society
Other Discussion Boards => Philosophy, Religion & Society => Topic started by: Vindictus on March 07, 2015, 08:29:55 PM
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Damn some serious hippies in here.
This is what the US military does to a person's brain.
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Damn some serious hippies in here.
This is what the US military does to a person's brain.
You know what you call a libertarian military? Dead.
Yeah, a bit too many hippies. But I've always said I'm a moderate who leans a bit more to the left because I'm not racist, not religious, and think abortions should be legal. I still love a sexy right winger though, but I blame that on growing up in the south. Sexy, manly, country boys are always right.
Racism, religion, and abortions have nothing to do with being on the right spectrum because the right spectrum only represents your economic views.
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Damn some serious hippies in here.
This is what the US military does to a person's brain.
You know what you call a libertarian military? Dead.
Haven't heard of the Mongols, hey? ;)
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Haven't heard of the Mongols, hey? ;)
...what? Assuming you're referring to the well-known empire, Mongols were extremely authoritarian. In the entire history of Earth, there has never been an event in which libertarians or anyone with a similar social structure fielded a military of any kind. Fighting on a large scale requires tactics and strategy, which requires one or more individuals commanding others in an authority structure. The Romans knew this. The Mongols knew this. The motherfucking Vandals knew this. Maybe you should know it, too.
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Haven't heard of the Mongols, hey? ;)
...what? Assuming you're referring to the well-known empire, Mongols were extremely authoritarian. In the entire history of Earth, there has never been an event in which libertarians or anyone with a similar social structure fielded a military of any kind. Fighting on a large scale requires tactics and strategy, which requires one or more individuals commanding others in an authority structure. The Romans knew this. The Mongols knew this. The motherfucking Vandals knew this. Maybe you should know it, too.
While they did have social structures (obviously, a Khan/Emperor), the Mongol military, especially in the early days, were pretty autonomous. It's difficult to associate modern libertarianism with their military and society, but relative to the various Chinese, Arabic and European civilizations that they fought, the Mongols were much less authoritarian. This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_military_tactics_and_organization#Training_and_discipline) is kind of what I'm trying to say.
But we're getting off topic now.
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While they did have social structures (obviously, a Khan/Emperor), the Mongol military, especially in the early days, were pretty autonomous. It's difficult to associate modern libertarianism with their military and society, but relative to the various Chinese, Arabic and European civilizations that they fought, the Mongols were much less authoritarian. This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_military_tactics_and_organization#Training_and_discipline) is kind of what I'm trying to say.
But we're getting off topic now.
What about that paragraph remotely implies any form of libertarianism? The mere fact that they distinguished officers and troops is authoritarianism. You're argument still makes no sense to me whatsoever.
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I really don't wanna split your dumb asses so cut that shit out
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I really don't wanna split your dumb asses so cut that shit out
This sounds really authoritarian, balkno, I thought you were all about le liberteh.
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I really don't wanna split your dumb asses so cut that shit out
This sounds really authoritarian, balkno, I thought you were all about le liberteh.
I'm fine with authoritarianism when I'm the authority
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I'm fine with authoritarianism when I'm the authority
Careful, if you proceed down this path you will likely attract a rooster.
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I don't think there has ever been a great leader who was an authoritarian. All of the great leaders in the world have had relatively passive personalities.
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I don't think there has ever been a great leader who was an authoritarian. All of the great leaders in the world have had relatively passive personalities.
lol
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While they did have social structures (obviously, a Khan/Emperor), the Mongol military, especially in the early days, were pretty autonomous. It's difficult to associate modern libertarianism with their military and society, but relative to the various Chinese, Arabic and European civilizations that they fought, the Mongols were much less authoritarian. This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_military_tactics_and_organization#Training_and_discipline) is kind of what I'm trying to say.
But we're getting off topic now.
What about that paragraph remotely implies any form of libertarianism? The mere fact that they distinguished officers and troops is authoritarianism. You're argument still makes no sense to me whatsoever.
GK was known for his hands off approach in allowing his generals to do what they wanted, and their military was famously self sufficient and largely autonomous, which granted them various successes in combat. Sure, they weren't some libtards wet dream, but they lacked a lot of structure inherent in various successful empires throughout history. They were just a bunch of nomads who were good at riding horses.
Anyway, I refrained from posting my compass before because it's pretty standard for people here.
(http://i.imgur.com/Im73i6z.png)
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I don't think there has ever been a great leader who was an authoritarian. All of the great leaders in the world have had relatively passive personalities.
lol
I think you're confused over the terms "leadership" and "authority".
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I don't think there has ever been a great leader who was an authoritarian. All of the great leaders in the world have had relatively passive personalities.
lol
I think you're confused over the terms "leadership" and "authority".
extra lol
I thought Vindictus was going to top off this thread with the most lulz, but here you are, being... you.
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I don't think there has ever been a great leader who was an authoritarian. All of the great leaders in the world have had relatively passive personalities.
lol
I think you're confused over the terms "leadership" and "authority".
extra lol
I thought Vindictus was going to top off this thread with the most lulz, but here you are, being... you.
He's actually confused. I was being facetious.
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I don't think there has ever been a great leader who was an authoritarian. All of the great leaders in the world have had relatively passive personalities.
lol
I think you're confused over the terms "leadership" and "authority".
extra lol
I thought Vindictus was going to top off this thread with the most lulz, but here you are, being... you.
Why can't you just be nice?
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He's actually confused. I was being facetious.
Okay.
Why can't you just be nice?
Being nice is too easy. I like a good challenge.
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He's actually confused. I was being facetious.
Okay.
Why can't you just be nice?
Being nice is too easy. I like a good challenge.
But I defeated you.
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But I defeated you.
It was funny, but balkno won't have any of it. Go play dumb in another thread.
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Being nice is too easy. I like a good challenge.
He says badassly as he lowers his Sora trillby from Hot Topic to conceal his eyes from the monitor's glow. "I must never reveal to them my inner pain v_v" he whimpers to his Kairi waifu pillow
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He says badassly as he lowers his Sora trillby from Hot Topic to conceal his eyes from the monitor's glow. "I must never reveal to them my inner pain v_v" he whimpers to his Kairi waifu pillow
Uh oh, someone hacked my webcam.
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I really don't wanna split your dumb asses so cut that shit out
ftfy
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The Mongols were the first Libertarian society on the planet, before the US under Reagan. That's why the US is currently struggling to defeat ISIS rebels, whereas the Mongols wiped out the ancient Islamic caliphate and set back their society 1,000 years with just men on horses.
Thanks, Obama.
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How society as a whole functions and how a military functions are two separate things. You can support a libertarian government, but supporting a "libertarian military" is the dumbest thing you can possibly do.
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How society as a whole functions and how a military functions are two separate things. You can support a libertarian government, but supporting a "libertarian military" is the dumbest thing you can possibly do.
The dumbest thing you can do is to not have a military at all.
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How society as a whole functions and how a military functions are two separate things. You can support a libertarian government, but supporting a "libertarian military" is the dumbest thing you can possibly do.
The dumbest thing you can do is to not have a military at all.
No, I'd say that the dumbest thing would be having a military with no command structure. At least with no military at all, you don't risk mass defections ala Rome style ransacking.
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How society as a whole functions and how a military functions are two separate things. You can support a libertarian government, but supporting a "libertarian military" is the dumbest thing you can possibly do.
The dumbest thing you can do is to not have a military at all.
No, I'd say that the dumbest thing would be having a military with no command structure. At least with no military at all, you don't risk mass defections ala Rome style ransacking.
Being completely defenseless isn't a risk?
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Being completely defenseless isn't a risk?
Armies without a strict command structure are historically more likely to tear apart their own nation than properly defend it.