ì voted for the option "Son of God", born of a virgin;
actually.....i take issue with the options;
the fact that Jesus Christ walked the Earth is indisputable and irrefutable....i know of no serious historian(s) who question that!
so, it gets back to the question Jesus Himself asked of His disciples:
whom do you say I am?
as per C S Lewis, that really only leaves three viable options: Lord, liar or lunatic!
if you accept the veracity of the New Testament and all the auxiliary evidence supporting it, then, "liar" and "lunatic" are out of the question....
so: that only leaves "Lord";
the next question is: do you accept Him or reject Him? ???
that's your choice.....
the hardest thing, for me, is not believing the Bible but living a Christian life!
(this flat Earth stuff pretty much 'clinches' the veracity of Scripture....or....rather...leaves you with no real option except to be a theist of some sort....that would mean either Christianity, Islam or, maybe, @ a pinch, Hinduism)
as some here may have noticed, i have a bit of an anger problem.....i lose my temper easily..... :(
that can make it difficult to live a proper Christian life....
but....with God's help.....
ì voted for the option "Son of God", born of a virgin;Even Jesus became angry, it is not necessarily a sin.
actually.....i take issue with the options;
the fact that Jesus Christ walked the Earth is indisputable and irrefutable....i know of no serious historian(s) who question that!
so, it gets back to the question Jesus Himself asked of His disciples:
whom do you say I am?
as per C S Lewis, that really only leaves three viable options: Lord, liar or lunatic!
if you accept the veracity of the New Testament and all the auxiliary evidence supporting it, then, "liar" and "lunatic" are out of the question....
so: that only leaves "Lord";
the next question is: do you accept Him or reject Him? ???
that's your choice.....
the hardest thing, for me, is not believing the Bible but living a Christian life!
(this flat Earth stuff pretty much 'clinches' the veracity of Scripture....or....rather...leaves you with no real option except to be a theist of some sort....that would mean either Christianity, Islam or, maybe, @ a pinch, Hinduism)
as some here may have noticed, i have a bit of an anger problem.....i lose my temper easily..... :(
that can make it difficult to live a proper Christian life....
but....with God's help.....
Made up fictional character based on Harry Potter.
Probably never existed, as there's no evidence that he was a real person.
Made up fictional character based on Harry Potter.
Probably never existed, as there's no evidence that he was a real person.
you must know more than the historians, then....i'v yet to see one of any repute who seriously questioned Christ's earthly existence/tenure.....
His existence is heavily debated among scholars.
Perhaps you'd like to refer me to a source of his existence that isn't the gospel or a christian figure? I know there are Roman accounts, but none of them are conclusive and simply could have been adapted from text and/or word of mouth.
not good enough ::)
as per the linked article, you'd need a full professor of Classics, Ancient History or New Testament in any accredited university in the world
not good enough ::)
as per the linked article, you'd need a full professor of Classics, Ancient History or New Testament in any accredited university in the world
Apparently, there is little debate anymore as to whether or not Jesus existed as a historical figure. It seems that most of the debate concerns the details of His life as documented in the gospels.Made up fictional character based on Harry Potter.
Probably never existed, as there's no evidence that he was a real person.
you must know more than the historians, then....i'v yet to see one of any repute who seriously questioned Christ's earthly existence/tenure.....
See: probably.
His existence is heavily debated among scholars. Perhaps you'd like to refer me to a source of his existence that isn't the gospel or a christian figure? I know there are Roman accounts, but none of them are conclusive and simply could have been adapted from text and/or word of mouth.
Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and most biblical scholars and classical historians see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.[57][59][60][nb 10][77] There is no evidence today that the existence of Jesus was ever denied in antiquity by those who opposed Christianity.[78][79]
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There is however widespread disagreement among scholars on the details of the life of Jesus mentioned in the gospel narratives, and on the meaning of his teachings,[2] and the only two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[61][12][62][2]
Apparently, there is little debate anymore as to whether or not Jesus existed as a historical figure. It seems that most of the debate concerns the details of His life as documented in the gospels.Made up fictional character based on Harry Potter.
Probably never existed, as there's no evidence that he was a real person.
you must know more than the historians, then....i'v yet to see one of any repute who seriously questioned Christ's earthly existence/tenure.....
See: probably.
His existence is heavily debated among scholars. Perhaps you'd like to refer me to a source of his existence that isn't the gospel or a christian figure? I know there are Roman accounts, but none of them are conclusive and simply could have been adapted from text and/or word of mouth.Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Events_generally_accepted_as_historicalVirtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and most biblical scholars and classical historians see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.[57][59][60][nb 10][77] There is no evidence today that the existence of Jesus was ever denied in antiquity by those who opposed Christianity.[78][79]
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There is however widespread disagreement among scholars on the details of the life of Jesus mentioned in the gospel narratives, and on the meaning of his teachings,[2] and the only two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[61][12][62][2]
You may also note that the writer of the review meets all Mister Bickles requirements for a Jesus-denying scholar; assuming The University of Sydney is elite enough for Bickles tastes, that is
Real scholars are debating the existence of Jesus. It is not a closed case despite what Wikipedia says.
Apparently, there is little debate anymore as to whether or not Jesus existed as a historical figure. It seems that most of the debate concerns the details of His life as documented in the gospels.Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Events_generally_accepted_as_historicalVirtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and most biblical scholars and classical historians see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.[57][59][60][nb 10][77] There is no evidence today that the existence of Jesus was ever denied in antiquity by those who opposed Christianity.[78][79]
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There is however widespread disagreement among scholars on the details of the life of Jesus mentioned in the gospel narratives, and on the meaning of his teachings,[2] and the only two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[61][12][62][2]
He was a man. Probably a teacher, possibly a cult leader, likely a subversive, not a prophet. He had some good ideas that were twisted into a fairly ridiculous religion.
He was a man. Probably a teacher, possibly a cult leader, likely a subversive, not a prophet. He had some good ideas that were twisted into a fairly ridiculous religion.
"Probably?....possibly?....likely?"
Not good enough. I hope you get to know Him then you will be able to use more affirmative words and in a different context.
He was a man. Probably a teacher, possibly a cult leader, likely a subversive, not a prophet. He had some good ideas that were twisted into a fairly ridiculous religion.
"Probably?....possibly?....likely?"
Not good enough. I hope you get to know Him then you will be able to use more affirmative words and in a different context.
I was quite affirmative on the two most important points. He was a man, and he was not a prophet.
I would love to meet Jesus. I'd like to ask him if he really did say all those wise things that are attributed to him, and if so, how he feels about the mockery history has made of his teachings.
Whether one believes in Jesus or not the position is not one of hard logic and reason, rather, a matter of intuition. Since I first went to church when I was a child I believed Jesus. I tried not to believe in Him and I am not sure why? I have had depression and anxiety problems, mood swings, bitterness, low self esteem and this stuff has held me back from exploiting my talents to their maximum effectiveness. I repented and asked Christ to forgive me. The only thing that ever helped me to come out of the fog of depression is belief in the Divinity of Christ. Science can't help with spiritual problems.
I don't claim to be superior or holier than thou. I really don't know anything. But I am convinced Christ is real and at some point in the future we will all have to answer to him.
I think intuition is more important to survival and welfare than reason.
Stugo---I concur, and God Bless You!