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Title: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 09, 2014, 06:45:55 PM
Well, I'm pretty underwhelmed. The iPhone 6 is already old technology (kinda expected) and it still looks dated. Don't know the price yet. Apple keep saying ""from $199 with a two year contract" without any information as to what that contract might be. I suspect this is going to laughably expensive (That's a notch above 'eye-wateringly' because you know its so expensive its a joke and you will never pay that).

And the iWatch. I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone needs this. My phone tells me the time. Apple already killed the watch. I don' need one. Most of the features look gimmicky and I just don't like how it looks. And its a sports watch. No mention of it actually being waterproof. you know, for sports. Like swimming, rowing, kayaking, sailing ... regular sports. How can you make a sports watch and not be telling people how water resistant it is? Surely it is ... right?

Anyone falling in love we these things?
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Ghost of V on September 09, 2014, 06:54:47 PM
Anyone falling in love we these things?

No.

I like the idea of a SmartWatch, but I wouldn't buy an Apple one. I'd choose Motorola or maybe even Samsung (maybe not) over Apple.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Vindictus on September 09, 2014, 07:36:53 PM
If there's one thing Apple is good at, it's selling boatloads of shiny technology that people don't really need.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: markjo on September 09, 2014, 08:08:23 PM
If there's one thing Apple is good at, it's selling boatloads of shiny technology that people don't really need.
Isn't that the goal of pretty much every consumer tech company?  ???
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Blanko on September 09, 2014, 08:24:32 PM
iPhone 5 looked nice, why did they replace that design with this shit?

I suspect this is going to laughably expensive

Contract-free 128 GB iPhone 6 Plus is $949. I wish I was fucking kidding.

This is for specs that were good for an Android phone two years ago, mind.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Vindictus on September 09, 2014, 09:09:43 PM
If there's one thing Apple is good at, it's selling boatloads of shiny technology that people don't really need.
Isn't that the goal of pretty much every consumer tech company?  ???

For the most part, yes. But this thread is about the iPhone.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Lord Dave on September 09, 2014, 10:52:39 PM
And no sapphire glass for the phone.  That would have justified the price.
And have you seen the PPI?  My 2 year old phone is almost as good.  (312 vs 326)
Though they did somehow manage to make it a higher density with the 5".
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Snupes on September 09, 2014, 11:12:04 PM
And have you unseen the PPI?

what does this mean


My 2 year old phone is almost as good.  (312 vs 326)
Though they did somehow manage to make it a higher density with the 5".

Also, its PPI is not that good. My S5 is 432. Apple is clearly terrible in trying to push the whole "retina" thing, because it's hard to go back to iScreens now after having this phone.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 09, 2014, 11:41:36 PM
Also, its PPI is not that good. My S5 is 432. Apple is clearly terrible in trying to push the whole "retina" thing, because it's hard to go back to iScreens now after having this phone.
Lumia 930 dicks all over it.
Half the price, twice the power.
http://www.nokia.com/gb-en/phones/phone/lumia930/specifications/
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: juner on September 09, 2014, 11:45:33 PM
iPhone 5 looked nice, why did they replace that design with this shit?

I suspect this is going to laughably expensive

Contract-free 128 GB iPhone 6 Plus is $949. I wish I was fucking kidding.

This is for specs that were good for an Android phone two years ago, mind.

Which specs? The 64-bit CPU? Didn't know Android was pushing that two years ago...

But yeah, underwhelmed overall. I don't really get excited over tech anymore. Still waiting for Apple to "revolutionize" the TV industry, although I don't think that will happen now that Steve is gone. This is what they've come up with in the 3 years since he has passed, a watch. You could tell the Apple Watch is Tim Cook's baby. He rushed through everything, stole Steve's fucking line, and then spent forever talking about a device no one needs. I will get a new iPhone, because I don't have to pay for it. Not sure if I want the 6 or the 6 Plus. It is hard not to look like a douche holding a tablet to your head while talking on the phone.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: juner on September 09, 2014, 11:46:57 PM
Also, its PPI is not that good. My S5 is 432. Apple is clearly terrible in trying to push the whole "retina" thing, because it's hard to go back to iScreens now after having this phone.
Lumia 930 dicks all over it.
Half the price, twice the power.
http://www.nokia.com/gb-en/phones/phone/lumia930/specifications/

Jesus, Thork... If there was ever something that no one cared about or wanted, it is a Windows phone.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Snupes on September 09, 2014, 11:49:49 PM
Lumia 930 dicks all over it.
Half the price, twice the power.
http://www.nokia.com/gb-en/phones/phone/lumia930/specifications/

So it's basically the S5, but with 9 more PPI. And is also a Windows phone, therefore worse
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 09, 2014, 11:51:37 PM
Also, its PPI is not that good. My S5 is 432. Apple is clearly terrible in trying to push the whole "retina" thing, because it's hard to go back to iScreens now after having this phone.
Lumia 930 dicks all over it.
Half the price, twice the power.
http://www.nokia.com/gb-en/phones/phone/lumia930/specifications/

Jesus, Thork... If there was ever something that no one cared about or wanted, it is a Windows phone.
10% of the market in the UK now. Apple only have 27%. Try one. Its kind of obvious. It works well with your computer assuming you run Windows like most of the world.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: juner on September 09, 2014, 11:57:03 PM
Also, its PPI is not that good. My S5 is 432. Apple is clearly terrible in trying to push the whole "retina" thing, because it's hard to go back to iScreens now after having this phone.
Lumia 930 dicks all over it.
Half the price, twice the power.
http://www.nokia.com/gb-en/phones/phone/lumia930/specifications/

Jesus, Thork... If there was ever something that no one cared about or wanted, it is a Windows phone.
10% of the market in the UK now. Apple only have 27%. Try one. Its kind of obvious. It works well with your computer assuming you run Windows like most of the world.
And 3% worldwide... I tried a Windows Phone 7 handset back after launch. I was excited, had high hopes, and it was garbage. After the way Microsoft ruined the desktop with Windows 8, I don't see a need to go back. I don't run Windows for my personal gear, with the exception of a media center PC, and haven't for the better part of a decade.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Lord Dave on September 09, 2014, 11:57:34 PM
And have you unseen the PPI?

what does this mean

I can't type english.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 09, 2014, 11:59:43 PM
Also, its PPI is not that good. My S5 is 432. Apple is clearly terrible in trying to push the whole "retina" thing, because it's hard to go back to iScreens now after having this phone.
Lumia 930 dicks all over it.
Half the price, twice the power.
http://www.nokia.com/gb-en/phones/phone/lumia930/specifications/

Jesus, Thork... If there was ever something that no one cared about or wanted, it is a Windows phone.
10% of the market in the UK now. Apple only have 27%. Try one. Its kind of obvious. It works well with your computer assuming you run Windows like most of the world.
And 3% worldwide... I tried a Windows Phone 7 handset back after launch. I was excited, had high hopes, and it was garbage. After the way Microsoft ruined the desktop with Windows 8, I don't see a need to go back. I don't run Windows for my personal gear, with the exception of a media center PC, and haven't for the better part of a decade.
Windows 7 phone was 'garbage'. Windows 8 phone just works. Its not like the desktop version. I hate that too. But on a phone, it makes a lot of sense. And Jesus Christ it is fast. Android and iOS don't come close.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: juner on September 10, 2014, 12:04:25 AM
Windows 7 phone was 'garbage'. Windows 8 phone just works. Its not like the desktop version. I hate that too. But on a phone, it makes a lot of sense. And Jesus Christ it is fast. Android and iOS don't come close.

Maybe I will give it a try. I have been needing to order some test handsets anyway. Still going to get a 6, though.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: fappenhosen on September 11, 2014, 12:25:57 AM
And the iWatch. I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone needs this.

"Wearable tech". "The internet of things". People have been prattling on about it for a few years now, telling us its something that's going to happen and it'll change our lives forever. Tech journalists make promises. Apple delivers.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Ghost of V on September 11, 2014, 12:36:14 AM
I'm interested in the iWatch, but the idea of a SmartWatch isn't exactly an Apple innovation... It's been around for at least 5 years now. The iWatch looks the worst out of all the SmartWatches on the market at this point, at least when you compare prices.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: markjo on September 11, 2014, 01:08:05 AM
I'm interested in the iWatch, but the idea of a SmartWatch isn't exactly an Apple innovation... It's been around for at least 5 years now.
And you can see just how well the market is doing, can't you?

The iWatch looks the worst out of all the SmartWatches on the market at this point, at least when you compare prices.
Let's see how developers take to the iWatch and then see how it compares.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 11, 2014, 06:58:15 PM
The iWatch looks the worst out of all the SmartWatches on the market at this point, at least when you compare prices.
Let's see how developers take to the iWatch and then see how it compares.
My boss is a apple fan boy and was asking me about this over a very expensive lunch. He wants me to download the watch SDK and see what we can make. A few ideas I have off the top of my head might be a driving app, so if your heartbeat slows to the point when you are likely to fall asleep, it gives you a little buzz to wake you up. I also think you could probably use the barometer for thunder information as I would pick up shockwaves. I mean the perfect app with a barometer is a diving app to say how deep you are, but of course apple decided their sports watch didn't need to be waterproof. You could probably build an app to warn pilots of hypoxia too. But I'm not keen on this. I think its a bit of junk.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: EnigmaZV on September 11, 2014, 08:04:50 PM
Navigation app for the visually impaired. It buzzes one way to tell you to turn left, a different way to turn right, and something different when you reach your destination. Feel free to send me an appropriate sum of money.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: juner on September 11, 2014, 08:16:17 PM
I decided to get the 6 Plus. Thankfully I don't have tiny hands.

I put iOS 8 GM on my 5s. Keyboard is better, and the Health app looks interesting, although not useful at the moment. That is about it.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Lord Dave on September 11, 2014, 09:49:28 PM
It's not a bad app idea.  Unless you're calm.  It'll need calibration.

Also: golf swing analyzer. 

Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 11, 2014, 10:37:33 PM
Navigation app for the visually impaired. It buzzes one way to tell you to turn left, a different way to turn right, and something different when you reach your destination. Feel free to send me an appropriate sum of money.
Apple maps already does this on the new watch. No money for you.

Also: golf swing analyzer. 
Thank you. Stealing. :D
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: markjo on September 11, 2014, 11:55:51 PM
I mean the perfect app with a barometer is a diving app to say how deep you are, but of course apple decided their sports watch didn't need to be waterproof.

My guess is that the diver watch market is more specialized that what Apple is looking to get into.
Quote from: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-watch-update-more-details-and-hands-on-97091024129.html
Apple reps offered individual briefings to some tech writers; there I learned a bunch of stuff that Apple didn’t say in its keynote.

For example, the Apple Watch is water resistant. Sweating, wearing it in the rain, washing your hands, or cooking with it are fine. Take it off before you swim or get in the shower, though.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Ghost of V on September 12, 2014, 12:22:32 AM
How about a fap counter?
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: markjo on September 12, 2014, 02:01:37 AM
How about a fap counter?
Between the accelerometer and heart rate monitor, I'm sure that someone can work something out.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 12, 2014, 08:25:16 AM
How about a fap counter?
This is genius. On apple watch, you can send your real time heart beat to a loved one. Why not send them a real time fap? Draw length, stroked per minute etc.

(http://i57.tinypic.com/15mkxh5.png)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Lord Dave on September 12, 2014, 10:09:52 AM
Then you can link the watch to a porn rating system. 

"Blonde bimbos of be Beverly Hills- 20 falls/minute."
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Ghost of V on September 12, 2014, 04:39:03 PM
Then you can link the watch to a porn rating system. 

"Blonde bimbos of be Beverly Hills- 20 falls/minute."

"estimated fap completion time.... 3 minutes"
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: markjo on September 19, 2014, 02:34:41 AM
Looks like the iPhone will be poised to be the criminal/terrorist's phone of choice:
Quote from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2014/09/17/2612af58-3ed2-11e4-b03f-de718edeb92f_story.html
Apple said Wednesday night that it is making it impossible for the company to turn over data from most iPhones or iPads to police — even when they have a search warrant — taking a hard new line as tech companies attempt to blunt allegations that they have too readily participated in government efforts to collect user information.

The move, announced with the publication of a new privacy policy tied to the release of Apple’s latest mobile operating system, iOS 8, amounts to an engineering solution to a legal quandary: Rather than comply with binding court orders, Apple has reworked its latest encryption in a way that prevents the company — or anyone but the device’s owner — from gaining access to the vast troves of user data typically stored on smartphones or tablet computers.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Vindictus on September 19, 2014, 02:44:33 AM
Too bad they can't afford them.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Lord Dave on September 19, 2014, 02:45:00 AM
Looks like the iPhone will be poised to be the criminal/terrorist's phone of choice:
Quote from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2014/09/17/2612af58-3ed2-11e4-b03f-de718edeb92f_story.html
Apple said Wednesday night that it is making it impossible for the company to turn over data from most iPhones or iPads to police — even when they have a search warrant — taking a hard new line as tech companies attempt to blunt allegations that they have too readily participated in government efforts to collect user information.

The move, announced with the publication of a new privacy policy tied to the release of Apple’s latest mobile operating system, iOS 8, amounts to an engineering solution to a legal quandary: Rather than comply with binding court orders, Apple has reworked its latest encryption in a way that prevents the company — or anyone but the device’s owner — from gaining access to the vast troves of user data typically stored on smartphones or tablet computers.

So they say...
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 19, 2014, 11:13:07 AM
Too bad they can't afford them.
America will provide them as aid.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Pete Svarrior on September 19, 2014, 12:12:50 PM
Oh boy, Apple invented encryption. Such innovation.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: markjo on September 19, 2014, 12:30:50 PM
That isn't what they said.  Apple said that they will no longer hold on to the encryption keys.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 19, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
That isn't what they said.  Apple said that they will no longer hold on to the encryption keys.
They will. They have probably received a secret court order to do that and say the opposite. That is how the NSA works.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: juner on September 19, 2014, 02:53:05 PM
My 6 Plus is supposed to arrive today. I will let you all know how cool I look with it.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Pete Svarrior on September 19, 2014, 02:56:55 PM
That isn't what they said.  Apple said that they will no longer hold on to the encryption keys.
You can virtually always set your own encryption key. People choose not to.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Rama Set on September 19, 2014, 03:02:12 PM
My 6 Plus is supposed to arrive today. I will let you all know how cool I look with it.

No need.

(http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article4285404.ece/alternates/s1023/The-first-customer-of-Apples-newest-smartphone-iPhone-6-Mr-Butch.jpg)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: markjo on September 19, 2014, 04:51:50 PM
My 6 Plus is supposed to arrive today. I will let you all know how cool I look with it.
But will you look as cool as this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV59voFOQ6A
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: juner on September 19, 2014, 04:57:55 PM
I objectively look cooler than both of them, even without an iPhone.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Ghost of V on September 19, 2014, 05:08:49 PM
I objectively look cooler than both of them, even without an iPhone.

No me.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: markjo on September 19, 2014, 07:55:36 PM
That isn't what they said.  Apple said that they will no longer hold on to the encryption keys.
They will. They have probably received a secret court order to do that and say the opposite. That is how the NSA works.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/no-apple-probably-didnt-get-new-secret-govt-orders-to-hand-over-data/
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: juner on September 19, 2014, 08:56:14 PM
Confirmed. I look super cool with my iPhone 6 Plus.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Rama Set on September 19, 2014, 10:50:57 PM
Photo or else you look like Thork with braces.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Pete Svarrior on September 19, 2014, 11:27:51 PM
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/no-apple-probably-didnt-get-new-secret-govt-orders-to-hand-over-data/
While I disagree with Thork's post, your response is completely off-topic.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 20, 2014, 03:05:26 AM
Photo or else you look like Thork with braces.
Errr ... fuck off. >:(
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Ghost of V on September 24, 2014, 03:22:13 AM
http://www.dailydot.com/technology/iphone-6-plus-bendgate/?fb=dd

Please, take off your skinny jeans.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Blanko on September 25, 2014, 04:26:29 PM
Please, don't buy Apple products.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Rushy on September 28, 2014, 04:33:49 PM
Here is a nice video debunking the whole "bending iPhone" garbage. While I would like it to be true, spreading fake things about why Apple sucks only keeps people from real reasons as to why Apple sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0-3fIs2jQs#t=194
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: markjo on September 28, 2014, 09:43:29 PM
Pressing on it in the middle is not the same as pressing on it near the volume/power cutouts.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Ghost of V on September 28, 2014, 09:56:33 PM
Here is a nice video debunking the whole "bending iPhone" garbage. While I would like it to be true, spreading fake things about why Apple sucks only keeps people from real reasons as to why Apple sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0-3fIs2jQs#t=194

This isn't really accurate. The iPhone is bending due to people putting it in their pocket and sitting, not pushing on the middle of it with a huge bolt thingy.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 28, 2014, 10:04:45 PM
It is probably sponsored by Apple.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Rushy on September 28, 2014, 10:06:22 PM
It is probably sponsored by Apple.

I doubt it, considering Consumer Reports usually bags on Apple products, and the fact that their other tested phones were almost twice as strong as Apple's. This is why not enough people listen to why they shouldn't buy Apple, because people like Thork are so busy trying to be on the hate train (and failing at it) that they will dismiss very real problems with the products.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 28, 2014, 10:08:32 PM
I don't see what the video proves. You can push 70lbs with your thumbs. Exactly as the first video suggests.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Rushy on September 28, 2014, 10:14:15 PM
I don't see what the video proves. You can push 70lbs with your thumbs. Exactly as the first video suggests.

An average person can bend any thin phone on the market. This makes thin phones in general a bad idea, it isn't specifically a problem Apple faces.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 28, 2014, 10:33:42 PM
I think the main problem with this test is that it spreads the load evenly over the back of the device. So the battery is taking much of it. The bent ones are one edge or the other.

(http://www.bloomberg.com/image/idK4cVc9tWuI.jpg)

I'd be more interested in a point load by those button cut outs.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Thork on September 28, 2014, 11:15:18 PM
Here is a nice video debunking the whole "bending iPhone" garbage. While I would like it to be true, spreading fake things about why Apple sucks only keeps people from real reasons as to why Apple sucks.

The original bend dude has done a second video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ3Ds6uf0Yg&list=PL-DfNcB3lim9IZmUXEjE1Ov0Ir1NDa3Yr&index=37
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Rama Set on September 28, 2014, 11:39:31 PM
Obviously a fish eye lens.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: markjo on September 28, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
I'd be more interested in a point load by those button cut outs.
I wonder how much of an effect moving the power button from the top to the side opposite the volume buttons has to do with this issue.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: Lord Dave on September 29, 2014, 01:00:52 AM
Why are we caring?
This is what cases are for.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iWatch
Post by: markjo on September 29, 2014, 01:17:45 AM
Because it's a chance to hate on Apple.  Duh!