The Flat Earth Society

Other Discussion Boards => Philosophy, Religion & Society => Topic started by: juner on June 11, 2014, 11:36:37 PM

Title: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: juner on June 11, 2014, 11:36:37 PM
In my hometown, nonetheless.  Happened this past Sunday.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/10/justice/las-vegas-shooting/
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: DuckDodgers on June 12, 2014, 12:39:26 AM
The couple were kicked off the Bundy ranch.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: Rushy on June 12, 2014, 01:45:13 AM
The civilian fatality confronted them face to face. I would have pretended to exit the store and shot them in the back. Poor strategic planning for a conceal carry.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: juner on June 12, 2014, 04:11:37 AM
The civilian fatality confronted them face to face. I would have pretended to exit the store and shot them in the back. Poor strategic planning for a conceal carry.

The NRA insists that more people with guns will create a safer society.  This is a clear example of a success in that regard for the man who confronted these two psychos. 
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: Rushy on June 12, 2014, 04:27:24 AM
The civilian fatality confronted them face to face. I would have pretended to exit the store and shot them in the back. Poor strategic planning for a conceal carry.

The NRA insists that more people with guns will create a safer society.  This is a clear example of a success in that regard for the man who confronted these two psychos.

I'm willing to bet if everyone in that store had a gun no one would run in and try to start shooting, the problem here is that out of all the people in that store, only one had a weapon.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: juner on June 12, 2014, 04:46:40 AM
The civilian fatality confronted them face to face. I would have pretended to exit the store and shot them in the back. Poor strategic planning for a conceal carry.

The NRA insists that more people with guns will create a safer society.  This is a clear example of a success in that regard for the man who confronted these two psychos.

I'm willing to bet if everyone in that store had a gun no one would run in and try to start shooting.
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim?


the problem here is that out of all the people in that store, only one had a weapon.
Of course.  Literally no other problem could arise from everyone in a confined area carrying weapons. 
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: Saddam Hussein on June 12, 2014, 05:54:09 AM
Just one out of about a dozen recent public shootings.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: Pete Svarrior on June 12, 2014, 08:34:46 AM
I'm willing to bet if everyone in that store had a gun no one would run in and try to start shooting, the problem here is that out of all the people in that store, only one had a weapon.
Alternatively, one person would be crazy enough to start shooting (n.b. we're talking about crazy people here, common sense needn't apply), and then a whole bunch of people would panic and start shooting too and it'd become WWI2 (World War I: 2: The Sequel) very soon.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: Lord Dave on June 12, 2014, 10:29:26 AM
I'm willing to bet if everyone in that store had a gun no one would run in and try to start shooting, the problem here is that out of all the people in that store, only one had a weapon.
Alternatively, one person would be crazy enough to start shooting (n.b. we're talking about crazy people here, common sense needn't apply), and then a whole bunch of people would panic and start shooting too and it'd become WWI2 (World War I: 2: The Sequel) very soon.
It really depends on their training.  The average person will likely panic and run, totally forgetting about their gun.
A few would be brave enough to pull it out and open up but might mis-interprete a good guy with a gun with a bad guy with a gun.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: rooster on June 12, 2014, 01:55:01 PM
I am not surprised the revolution is starting in Sin City.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: juner on June 12, 2014, 05:05:39 PM
I am not surprised the revolution is starting in Sin City.

Eh, it is just a high-crime ghetto area on the East side of town.  Same as any other slum in any big city.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: rooster on June 12, 2014, 05:15:56 PM
But it's Las Vegas, Junker. There is no law in Vegas.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: juner on June 12, 2014, 06:14:34 PM
But it's Las Vegas, Junker. There is no law in Vegas.

Well, technically the revolution started in Winchester since that area isn't incorporated Las Vegas.  But yes, it is quite lawless; Wild West style.  I have avoided death no less than 500 times in my 25+ years of living here.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on June 12, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
Let's see:
Gunman is mentally ill- check
More guns would solve gun crime - check
A Good Guy With A Gun(tm) could have stopped him - check

I should really make a bingo card to make the aftermath of these sort of shootings marginally less depressing.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: DuckDodgers on June 12, 2014, 08:52:07 PM
The male also supposed dressed up as Slenderman occasionally.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: NewSeeker on June 13, 2014, 12:48:51 AM
"I should have called the cops," she said Monday. "I'm so, so, so sorry -- to everybody. I'm sorry."


American Revolution?  ::)

Yeah right.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: Rushy on June 13, 2014, 02:26:10 AM
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim?

I didn't make a claim, I made a bet.

Of course.  Literally no other problem could arise from everyone in a confined area carrying weapons.

Someone should tell all the gun stores.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: garygreen on June 13, 2014, 03:39:52 PM
Of course.  Literally no other problem could arise from everyone in a confined area carrying weapons.

Someone should tell all the gun stores.

Yeah, gun stores never get robbed because everyone knows that the owners and patrons are packing heat!

oh wait that doesn't actually deter criminals nevermind

http://www.aikenstandard.com/article/20140612/AIK0101/140619823
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/charles-rowan-gun-store-manner_n_4345204.html <- literally decided to rob a gun store with a hammer.  succeeded.  deterrence works, right?!
http://www.wboc.com/story/13897486/4-arrested-in-laurel-gun-shop-robbery
http://www.wtae.com/news/local/coroner-called-to-shooting-at-gun-shop/23715272#!Ysf0E
http://www.wthr.com/story/19562707/two-shot-at-dons-guns

hey remember that episode of it's always sunny when dennis threatens to shoot that guy and then everyone in the gun shop pulls out a gun and stops him?  that was awesome and never actually happens
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: juner on June 13, 2014, 06:02:48 PM
hey remember that episode of it's always sunny when dennis threatens to shoot that guy and then everyone in the gun shop pulls out a gun and stops him?  that was awesome and never actually happens

It was a gun show, get your facts straight.

Oh and all that other stuff I agree with.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: fappenhosen on June 13, 2014, 09:03:21 PM
Quote
Tanner looked at his friend Wilcox. He knew Wilcox had a concealed carry permit and sometimes had a gun on him.

Oh yeah this shit bout to get real. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun! Lets get it awn!!!!

Quote
It was hours before Tanner was told that his friend was killed.

:( Bad luck dude. I expect a full withdrawal from the NRA.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: Rushy on June 13, 2014, 10:48:53 PM
Yeah, gun stores never get robbed because everyone knows that the owners and patrons are packing heat!

oh wait that doesn't actually deter criminals nevermind

http://www.aikenstandard.com/article/20140612/AIK0101/140619823
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/charles-rowan-gun-store-manner_n_4345204.html <- literally decided to rob a gun store with a hammer.  succeeded.  deterrence works, right?!
http://www.wboc.com/story/13897486/4-arrested-in-laurel-gun-shop-robbery
http://www.wtae.com/news/local/coroner-called-to-shooting-at-gun-shop/23715272#!Ysf0E
http://www.wthr.com/story/19562707/two-shot-at-dons-guns

hey remember that episode of it's always sunny when dennis threatens to shoot that guy and then everyone in the gun shop pulls out a gun and stops him?  that was awesome and never actually happens

Nice straw man. This post would be relevant if anyone had actually mentioned whether or not gun stores get robbed. You should try reading Junker's post again and find out where you went wrong.

It was a gun show, get your facts straight.

Oh and all that other stuff I agree with.

Gun shows, gun stores or even gun ranges don't always result in a shooting massacre, this goes directly against your idea that lots of people in a confined space with guns is a bad thing.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: Pete Svarrior on June 23, 2014, 04:55:18 PM
Gun shows, gun stores or even gun ranges don't always result in a shooting massacre, this goes directly against your idea that lots of people in a confined space with guns is a bad thing.
Untrue. You don't need always, you need often.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: model 29 on June 25, 2014, 03:57:24 AM
I've been surrounded by guns my whole life, whether at home, gunshows, gunstores, Iraq, out target shooting, hunting, or simply carrying a concealed pistol, or whatever, and the only time I've ever had a loaded gun pointed at me was in Wurzburg, Germany back in 97 while waiting at a stoplight.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: fappenhosen on June 25, 2014, 08:25:52 PM
I've been surrounded by guns my whole life, whether at home, gunshows, gunstores, Iraq, out target shooting, hunting, or simply carrying a concealed pistol, or whatever, and the only time I've ever had a loaded gun pointed at me was in Wurzburg, Germany back in 97 while waiting at a stoplight.

Where was your Gun then?
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: Pete Svarrior on June 26, 2014, 03:39:42 AM
Where was your Gun then?
Presumably America.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: model 29 on June 27, 2014, 02:10:07 AM
Where was your Gun then?
My Gun (capitol G and all) was at my dad's house back in the states. 

Anyway, I was in Germany.  With all their firearm regulations in place, I thought I wasn't supposed to be concerned about someone walking up to my car and pointing a gun through the window.
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: beardo on June 27, 2014, 06:30:27 AM
I've been surrounded by guns my whole life, whether at home, gunshows, gunstores, Iraq, out target shooting, hunting, or simply carrying a concealed pistol, or whatever, and the only time I've ever had a loaded gun pointed at me was in Wurzburg, Germany back in 97 while waiting at a stoplight.

Where was your Gun then?
What good does pulling out a gun do when you already have a loaded gun pointing at you?
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: Lord Dave on June 27, 2014, 09:40:39 AM
Where was your Gun then?
My Gun (capitol G and all) was at my dad's house back in the states. 

Anyway, I was in Germany.  With all their firearm regulations in place, I thought I wasn't supposed to be concerned about someone walking up to my car and pointing a gun through the window.
How do you know it was loaded?
Title: Re: Apparently The Revolution Has Begun
Post by: fappenhosen on June 28, 2014, 12:48:39 PM
I've been surrounded by guns my whole life, whether at home, gunshows, gunstores, Iraq, out target shooting, hunting, or simply carrying a concealed pistol, or whatever, and the only time I've ever had a loaded gun pointed at me was in Wurzburg, Germany back in 97 while waiting at a stoplight.

Where was your Gun then?
What good does pulling out a gun do when you already have a loaded gun pointing at you?

The only thing stopping a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Besides I am trained to use a gun because I go shooting every weekend with my buddies. Criminals are not trained because they are too busy doing drgs.