The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Theory => Topic started by: Hobbes on November 16, 2018, 06:19:28 AM
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In my perusing of various Flat Earth models i have noticed that almost universally they depict the Sun as being round. I am specifically referring to images like this one.
(https://ak7.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/22749697/thumb/1.jpg)
There are many examples of this kind of depiction, however perhaps we should question this notion and examine the evidence to come to our conclusions.
In that end i would like to start the discussion by giving a cursory examination to what we see when we look at the Sun.
Obviously with the naked eye there is much that remains hidden...
(https://img.purch.com/w/660/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5saXZlc2NpZW5jZS5jb20vaW1hZ2VzL2kvMDAwLzA5MC80MjQvb3JpZ2luYWwvc3Vuc2hpbmUuanBlZw==)
A simple online image search can turn up many "official" NASA images of the Sun. There are many photographs of the Sun taken by NASA and other government space agencies,
I will focus on a few images sourced from ground-based telescopes and also images from civilian sources. However I should not gloss over images said to be taken from spacecraft such as this one.
(https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/system/downloadable_items/1068_oct_1_2015_flare.jpg)
Certainly looks magnificent, and defiantly gives the impression of being a sphere.
When we look at some ground-based photos we see a less impressive sight...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Sunspot.gif)
This does still imply a certain roundness, the gradient at the edge especially makes the brighter parts in the center look closer.
(http://www.astropt.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2A6B5DB000000578-3156594-image-a-2_1436549774134.jpg)
I am not in any doubt that we could concoct many wide and wild theories that could explain away the appearance of roundness through optical illusion or various other means.
That may not be necessary though as when we start to take a look at civilian photographs things take on a much flatter appearance.
(http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/tutorials/astrophotography/sun_051112(2).jpg)
(https://2.img-dpreview.com/files/g/TS560x560~1998263.jpg)
The gradient seen in "official" images is still present. It does seem to be much less distinct than before so is this a result of a less powerful viewing device
or of the "enhancement" photos from NASA and the space community often receive? There are many possibilities, perhaps it is even an intrinsic part of the
heavy-duty camera filters that must be used when photographing the Sun.
(http://www.imatest.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/camera_setup_small.png)
Anyway, in conclusion I would like to state that this is but a small sliver of evidence and I am looking to hear your thoughts on the topic.
I do not see how a Flat Sun would change anything in the common model of the Flat Earth, but again I would like to hear your opinion.
If the Earth is flat, why not the Sun?
~Hobbes
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The sun is not flat. If it were it would look like ellipsical in nature depending on where it is viewed from below. The very real sunspots in those pictures revolve around the sun leaving only one possible shape, a sphere. A spherical sun of course creates all kinds of other issues for the flat Earth like why does a spherical sun have a spotlight effect at all? The light has no issues traveling 3000 miles or whatever at solar noon then as it is setting it is thousands of miles farther and has no problems. Then all of a sudden, for some reason in a matter of an hour or so the suns light just can’t go any farther. The stars are even farther and their light can make it to us no problem, it is as if something is blocking the light from reaching us..
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I suppose that the sun could not be round or flat but somehow shaped like a focused spot light. You kind of see that effect in the flat earth diagrams in the wiki. That might go a ways toward explaining why you couldn't see the sun at night over a flat plane. The perspective card could also be played. The Sun's biggest problems are a lot worse than it's shape in the FET paradigm. Somehow the sun and moon must keep circling around above the earth. They must also be accelerating upwards at the exact same speed as the earth otherwise the relative distances will increase or decrease. Additionally the sun must change orbits for the different seasons. I can find nothing in the wiki pertaining to the mechanism for any of these required properties for the FET model to work. All the requirements will require some kind of 'smart' energy that will automatically be applied to the sun and moon to keep everything working in the observed manner. There also must be some kind of 'shadowing' body that appears when an eclipse is needed and then hidden from view at other times and remains undetectable at all other times. All that is a really tall order and hasn't really been outlined in much detail anywhere I could find.
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I guess if you really wanted to you and had nothing better to do with your life you could speculate for ever about whether the Sun is flat or round. To me all the evidence you need is presented there in the photos. The flattening of the sunspots near the limb shows how the Sun is a near perfect sphere. There is only about a 6km difference between the equatorial and polar diameters.
Incidentally the brighter centre compared to the limb is called limb darkening and is due to the temperature gradient of the photosphere. It is hotter just below the visible surface and since we can see the hotter material more directly at the centre it is accordingly brighter. At the limb we are looking more obliquely at cooler material and so it looks darker. This also offers a clue that the Sun is not a solid body but made of plasma (ionised gas).
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Look up...