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Title: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: pinkie2054 on September 16, 2018, 10:32:57 PM
Hey my fellow Flat-Earthers! I have a question. So, I first learned about this theory through a Shane Dawson Conspiracy Theory Video. In that video, Shane Dawson's brother talked about an Antarctic Treaty signed in the 50's that stated, among other things, that no one can freely explore Antarctica. I am putting together a presentation for my school, but when I went digging for evidence about this claim, I came up empty. Can anybody direct me to proof that the Antarctic Treaty states that you can't explore Antarctica without heavy supervision? Thanks, y'all for helping me out!
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: stack on September 16, 2018, 11:19:33 PM
Here is some info:

https://www.ats.aq/e/ats.htm
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: pinkie2054 on September 17, 2018, 12:35:31 AM
Here is some info:

https://www.ats.aq/e/ats.htm

Thanks, but I'm really looking for an answer in english, not legal terms. It's just the way that it's worded confuses me as to whether or not you can freely explore.
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: stack on September 17, 2018, 12:52:03 AM
https://iaato.org/documents/10157/13325/Visitor_Guidelines-1.pdf
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: disputeone on September 17, 2018, 02:00:13 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Highjump

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Swabia

Worth looking into.
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: stack on September 17, 2018, 03:42:58 AM
There's also this:

"UFO whistleblower: Ex-US Naval officer 'saw entrance to secret alien base in Antarctica'"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/780089/UFO-whistleblower-Brian-Antarctica-Linda-Moulton-Howe
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: Humble B on September 18, 2018, 05:14:55 PM
It's just the way that it's worded confuses me as to whether or not you can freely explore.

Yes, legally everyone can explore Antarctica freely, no laws that prohibit anyone to set foot on and walk around Antarctica.
But the main problem is to survive the harsh environment. To survive on Antarctica you need help and support from people who live and work there, but they won't help and support you unless you are an experienced explorer, know what you are doing and have prepared your trip very well. That's because no one on Antarctica wants to be held accountable in case you disappear forever or found dead and frozen. And without their help you better plan another vacation.
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: stack on September 18, 2018, 05:35:29 PM
Via Quantas, one can fly over Antarctica as well. Best part, full bar service during the 12 hour journey.

http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: Delryn on September 18, 2018, 07:59:01 PM
Hey,

Nothing is stopping you from visiting Antarctica as a tourist, except your empty wallet. Tourism is supported during the summer months, so you can witness a southern hemisphere 24hour day which... shouldn't be possible...? So make sure to take pictures. Winter travel is very dangerous, so only trained scientists and explorers can get funding.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/antarctica/articles/Antarctica-Trip-of-a-Lifetime/
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: Dr David Thork on September 18, 2018, 08:37:43 PM
Surely anyone's first port of call after Google when they don't know about a topic is wikipedia? Don't they teach you anything in school these days?

Google ... Wikipedia ... Youtube ... none of those? ok then the thing you are looking for doesn't exist.

But in your case ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_System
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: disputeone on September 18, 2018, 11:17:45 PM
Via Quantas, one can fly over Antarctica as well. Best part, full bar service during the 12 hour journey.

http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/

Not over the poles. Supposedly due to Elecromagnetic interference.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pLSR6wnJ/1537256524148.jpg)

I will say governments like having secret facilities in very difficult to reach areas.

Such as Pine Gap in the middle of Australia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Gap

Antarctica would make a perfect black budget military base.
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: stack on September 19, 2018, 01:30:31 AM
Antarctica would make a perfect black budget military base.

I agree, although maybe cost prohibitive and not necessarily ultra strategic, location wise. And it's no secret that gov'ts have 'secret' bases. You and I can't fly over Groom Lake in Nevada, for example. But no so secret of a notion.
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: FlatEarther21 on September 19, 2018, 03:43:54 PM
I saw that video too! That's why I joined this website for more information.
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: totallackey on September 21, 2018, 11:18:31 AM
It's just the way that it's worded confuses me as to whether or not you can freely explore.

Yes, legally everyone can explore Antarctica freely, no laws that prohibit anyone to set foot on and walk around Antarctica.
Why make such a patently false statement?
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: totallackey on September 21, 2018, 11:19:31 AM
Via Quantas, one can fly over Antarctica as well. Best part, full bar service during the 12 hour journey.

http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/
Why make such a patently false statement?
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: stack on September 21, 2018, 06:39:00 PM
Via Quantas, one can fly over Antarctica as well. Best part, full bar service during the 12 hour journey.

http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/
Why make such a patently false statement?

What's patently false about it? Seemingly, Quantas provides a flight of Antarctica. Are you disputing the full bar service provided?
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: stack on September 22, 2018, 01:36:49 AM
Just in case full bar service is still disputed as being patently false, I give you this evidence (right side, 'spirits'):

(https://morethanroute66.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/antarctic_menu.jpg)

https://morethanroute66.com/2015/02/24/antarctica-by-air-flight-review-images-of-the-ice-continent/
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: MiraculumHelix on October 15, 2018, 07:25:50 AM
You are not flying over antartica. You are flight across a large landmass they want you to believe to be antarctica. Kinda like Greenland, but in the south.
They fool you. Easy as that. Because no one is able to reach the real antarctica, which is the large icewall around the globe.

However, its not true that the government doesnt want anyone to know. How else would they allow the truth to be seeping into TV shows over and over again.
Living under a large dome rather tham on a round earth? You find this truth in a movie called "The Hunger Games" and "The Truman Show". A large ICe wall? Well, "Game of Thrones" told you this.
It's like they want us to be slowly introduced to the truth, seeing familiar images again and again, until one day we don't care anymore when they reveal the truth.
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: RonJ on October 18, 2018, 04:59:57 PM
They will keep the dome secret and you away from Antarctica for a while yet.  When all the corporate fat cats and multi-millionaires have constructed their mansions overlooking the edge of the earth, then they will turn loose and allow tours to the Antarctic.  Just think of the view they will have.  It will be the best on the flat earth.   
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: AATW on October 19, 2018, 07:07:13 AM
It's just the way that it's worded confuses me as to whether or not you can freely explore.

Yes, legally everyone can explore Antarctica freely, no laws that prohibit anyone to set foot on and walk around Antarctica.
Why make such a patently false statement?
You can't just go there when you like and roam how you like. It's pretty obvious why. No, not because "they" have something to hide, but it's obviously a very harsh environment. I'm pretty sure you can't just jog up Everest either, there are certain places where you have to know what you're doing if you want to go there.

You can, however, travel to the South Pole:

https://www.discover-the-world.com/holidays/south-pole-adventure/

It'll cost you, but it is pretty niche. There's nothing stopping anyone going if they have the money.
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: RonJ on October 19, 2018, 01:46:44 PM
If there is a real 'South Pole',  just where is it on the flat earth map?  I would assume that it would have to be everywhere on the outer edge of the flat earth.  Yes, I can believe that you can go to Antarctica, my sister was there earlier this year and I saw some pictures.  Mostly they were just of some penguins. 
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: JCM on October 22, 2018, 06:05:09 PM
STar trails clearly show both a North polar axis and a South polar axis, rotating. In opposite directions.  Let’s ignore the opposite directions they spin for a moment.  Somewhere that point is above the earth correct?  That point is in Antarctica, 90 degrees latitude south of the equator. Where you are on the planet latitude wise is incredibly easy as measured with a sextant for thousands of years.   Whether you believe people have been to 90 degrees south is something else entirely.   
Title: Re: Antarctic Treaty
Post by: RonJ on October 24, 2018, 04:54:38 AM
There are many folks that believe that they have been to the south pole.  Probably it's not just a photo-shopped job.  There's a research building there as well.  If you look up PanAm flight 50 you can see that there was a flight over both the North and South pole.  Just another fake?  Well, probably not.  On the flat earth model the South Pole should be right at the edge of the disk.  Can you fly over it, or will you get hit by the flow of the dark energy force flowing around the edges from the bottom? I guess the folks on flight 50 didn't or they kept everything quiet.   On the map the South Pole should be a single point that includes the entire outer edge of the map.  That does make a little sense as the scale of the map must decrease all the way to zero at the point infamously known as the south pole.  There is a nice video of a bunch of people who circled the globe around the South Pole in about a minute or less.  That makes my feat of going thru Utah, Colorado, Arizona, and  New Mexico in the same time frame look tame.  You can do all that at the Four Corners Monument.  Measuring your planets's latitude in the Southern hemisphere is a bit trickier.  There is no pole start like Polaris there.  You can use the Southern Cross, but it's a much harder task.  I didn't go far South too much and I sold my sextant several years back so I won't be trying again.  Now I can just use my iPhone.  It does work in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.  I compared the reading on my GPS application with the two GPS receivers used on the ship and it agreed out to 3 decimal points to the right.