[WTF_Seriously]

Trumpty Dumpty is getting trashed.  Not sure how he's going to play it as a win but he'll try to spin something.  He will lose to DeSantis in the primary.

He's blaming his wife.

Always the class act.

[Tom Bishop]

Trumpty Dumpty is getting trashed.  Not sure how he's going to play it as a win but he'll try to spin something.  He will lose to DeSantis in the primary.

How is 219 wins and 16 losses "getting trashed," exactly?

[Rama Set]

Trumpty Dumpty is getting trashed.  Not sure how he's going to play it as a win but he'll try to spin something.  He will lose to DeSantis in the primary.

How is 219 wins and 16 losses "getting trashed," exactly?

I suppose it could depend on who won and who lost; the endorsements in swing districts are the more important ones.  Overall, Trump's endorsement in a general election probably has a smaller effect than anyone admits.

[markjo]

Trumpty Dumpty is getting trashed.  Not sure how he's going to play it as a win but he'll try to spin something.  He will lose to DeSantis in the primary.

How is 219 wins and 16 losses "getting trashed," exactly?

Ask Dr. Oz.

[stack]

[Tom Bishop]

Incorrect. Trump has endorsed more than 13 people.

https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/politics/trump-endorses-sandy-smith-north-carolina-1st-district-house-race/291-2d10a07a-cb42-4c70-a722-29b8945b1ab0

"NPR reports he has endorsed over 200 Republicans running for the U.S. Senate, U.S. House and top state offices across the country in the 2022 elections."

[Rama Set]

Incorrect. Trump has endorsed more than 13 people.

https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/politics/trump-endorses-sandy-smith-north-carolina-1st-district-house-race/291-2d10a07a-cb42-4c70-a722-29b8945b1ab0

"NPR reports he has endorsed over 200 Republicans running for the U.S. Senate, U.S. House and top state offices across the country in the 2022 elections."

Did he endorse you, Tom?

[markjo]

Incorrect. Trump has endorsed more than 13 people.

https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/politics/trump-endorses-sandy-smith-north-carolina-1st-district-house-race/291-2d10a07a-cb42-4c70-a722-29b8945b1ab0

"NPR reports he has endorsed over 200 Republicans running for the U.S. Senate, U.S. House and top state offices across the country in the 2022 elections."

How many did he actively campaign for?

BTW, Trump endorsed Sandy Smith lost her bid for Congress.
https://abc11.com/don-davis-first-district-sandy-smith-democrat/12433766/

[Lord Dave]

Tom is adding "people I endorsed who wouldn't lose anyway" as tho that matters.

[AATW]

Tom is adding "people I endorsed who wouldn't lose anyway" as tho that matters.

Well, Trump is adding those people and Tom is eating it up. Because that's how the cult of Trump works.
He is the one who tells them the truth, if it's not from him or endorsed by him then it isn't true.
It's a bit embarrassing that people still fall for it.

[Roundy]

It's a bit embarrassing that people still fall for it.

You mean Trump, or Tom? Both are equally valid.

[AATW]

It's a bit embarrassing that people still fall for it.

You mean Trump, or Tom? Both are equally valid.

I mean Tom. I don't think Trump knows what the truth is, he just says whatever pops into his head which he thinks sounds good.
But what he has done with depressing success is convince his followers - I'd go so far to say disciples, such is their fanaticism - that what he says is true.
He's convinced them that he is their source of truth. So any news source which exposes his lies - they're the "fake news".
They believe the election was rigged not because there's good evidence, but because Trump said it and he is their source of truth.
The media outlets which go along with his bullshit, they're the real news sources. The outlets which expose his lies are the "fake news media".
It's a mess of confirmation bias.
From afar it's all quite troubling and it's doing a lot of damage to your democracy.
We have a similar thing over here with Johnson although it's a bit different. I think with Johnson it's more a cult of personality. His more ardent followers do know he's a liar, as does he. They just don't care. It's just as depressing, but in a different way.

[Lord Dave]

And Trump announces his 2024 bid.
I didn't expect that after the election results but there you go.

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/15/1044234232/trump-announces-run-president-2024

[honk]

I didn't expect that after the election results but there you go.

Oh, come on, this was an easy thing to predict. If the midterms went well, Trump would take credit for it and announce his candidacy as a victory lap. If they went poorly, he'd fall into his familiar role as underdog and insist that only he could save the nation from its impending doom. There's no scenario where he would have humbly backed down or allowed someone else to take the limelight he sees as rightfully his.

[AATW]

And Trump announces his 2024 bid.
I didn't expect that after the election results but there you go.

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/15/1044234232/trump-announces-run-president-2024

Did Tom just have a Tomgasm?
I don’t think he will win…but I thought that last time!

[Lord Dave]

I didn't expect that after the election results but there you go.

Oh, come on, this was an easy thing to predict. If the midterms went well, Trump would take credit for it and announce his candidacy as a victory lap. If they went poorly, he'd fall into his familiar role as underdog and insist that only he could save the nation from its impending doom. There's no scenario where he would have humbly backed down or allowed someone else to take the limelight he sees as rightfully his.

I thought the bad indicators that he might lose (again) would make him shy away with "Until the current administration and congress is wiped away, I can't win.  They won't let me.  They'll cheat and get away with it.  Or try to put me in jail." His typical whining about the unfairness to hide his fear of losing twice.

[AATW]

Given his age it is kinda now or never though.

[Roundy]

I didn't expect that after the election results but there you go.

Oh, come on, this was an easy thing to predict. If the midterms went well, Trump would take credit for it and announce his candidacy as a victory lap. If they went poorly, he'd fall into his familiar role as underdog and insist that only he could save the nation from its impending doom. There's no scenario where he would have humbly backed down or allowed someone else to take the limelight he sees as rightfully his.

I thought the bad indicators that he might lose (again) would make him shy away with "Until the current administration and congress is wiped away, I can't win.  They won't let me.  They'll cheat and get away with it.  Or try to put me in jail." His typical whining about the unfairness to hide his fear of losing twice.

His whining about cheating is all bluster though. He doesn't really believe it's happening, it's just an excuse he uses to energize his fans. You really don't understand Trump if you thought there was any chance he wasn't running again.

[markjo]

Of course all of the MAGAs will have to buy new merch with the new slogan.

“The hats’ll have to say MAGAGA — make America great and glorious again. If it makes you gag, get used to it,” cracked Harvard constitutional law professor Laurence Tribe.

[Rama Set]

I didn't expect that after the election results but there you go.

Oh, come on, this was an easy thing to predict. If the midterms went well, Trump would take credit for it and announce his candidacy as a victory lap. If they went poorly, he'd fall into his familiar role as underdog and insist that only he could save the nation from its impending doom. There's no scenario where he would have humbly backed down or allowed someone else to take the limelight he sees as rightfully his.

In an interview he claimed, and I paraphrase,“If the midterms go well, it’s because of me, if they go poorly it’s the Republican party’s fault, either way, they’ll claim the opposite.”