[Tom Bishop]

Here is a new one. During a Solar Eclipse the body of the moon perfectly covers the sun. It is remarkable. They are the same size. Is it just some kind of astonishing coincidence that a body over four million times larger than the moon happens to be located at just the right spot that the sun and moon are identical in size, each with a diameter of 0.5 degrees of the sky?

[markjo]

Nope, it's not always perfect:

[Tom Bishop]

What is that, like a 5% difference in size? I took the width of the sun (515px) and compared it to the width of the moon (482px). Plugging those values into this calculator tells me that the difference in size is 6.6199% difference.

It still seems like an odd coincidence that both the sun and moon are both 0.5 degrees in the sky, give or take 0.0066 degrees in some situations.

[Thork]

Yes, coincidence is the best answer Round Earth Scientists can come up with. The sun is 400 times the size of the moon and 400 times further away ... apparently.

Thus the solar eclipse is against the odds in any solar system.

You can read the full article here

[Rama Set]

What is that, like a 5% difference in size? I took the width of the sun (515px) and compared it to the width of the moon (482px). Plugging those values into this calculator tells me that the difference in size is 6.6199% difference.

It still seems like an odd coincidence that both the sun are both 0.5 degrees in the sky, give or take 0.0066 degrees in some situations.

Yeah, and?

To quote Richard Feynman:

“You know, the most amazing thing happened to me tonight... I saw a car with the license plate ARW 357. Can you imagine? Of all the millions of license plates in the state, what was the chance that I would see that particular one tonight? Amazing!"

Yes it is not likely, but that does not make it untrue, nor is it evidence of anything.  More of a doubt that can be used as a springboard for productive investigation.

[Rama Set]

Yes, coincidence is the best answer Round Earth Scientists can come up with. The sun is 400 times the size of the moon and 400 times further away ... apparently.

Thus the solar eclipse is against the odds in any solar system.

You can read the full article here

Well, considering all the other ways they have measured the size and distance of the sun and moon, what other explanation could you propose in RET to explain it?  God?

[Thork]

Yes, coincidence is the best answer Round Earth Scientists can come up with. The sun is 400 times the size of the moon and 400 times further away ... apparently.

Thus the solar eclipse is against the odds in any solar system.

You can read the full article here

Well, considering all the other ways they have measured the size and distance of the sun and moon, what other explanation could you propose in RET to explain it?  God?

That the earth is flat and their model is wrong.

[Tom Bishop]

Yes, coincidence is the best answer Round Earth Scientists can come up with. The sun is 400 times the size of the moon and 400 times further away ... apparently.

Thus the solar eclipse is against the odds in any solar system.

You can read the full article here

As far as I know RET has been claiming that the sun is over a million times larger than the earth, and that the earth is over four times larger than the moon, which is why I said the sun is over 4 million times larger than the moon in the OP. I don't know where they got about "400 times the size" from.

But they are right, it is a cosmic coincidence!

What is that, like a 5% difference in size? I took the width of the sun (515px) and compared it to the width of the moon (482px). Plugging those values into this calculator tells me that the difference in size is 6.6199% difference.

It still seems like an odd coincidence that both the sun are both 0.5 degrees in the sky, give or take 0.0066 degrees in some situations.

Yeah, and?

To quote Richard Feynman:

“You know, the most amazing thing happened to me tonight... I saw a car with the license plate ARW 357. Can you imagine? Of all the millions of license plates in the state, what was the chance that I would see that particular one tonight? Amazing!"

Yes it is not likely, but that does not make it untrue, nor is it evidence of anything.  More of a doubt that can be used as a springboard for productive investigation.

It would be a coincidence if he happened to come across two plates that were sequential to each other. That the sun is 0.5 degrees all by itself is not a coincidence. But that both the sun and the moon, the two most important bodies in the earth's sky are nearly exactly the same size in the sky with such great distances and sizes involved, is astonishing.

[Thork]

Yes, coincidence is the best answer Round Earth Scientists can come up with. The sun is 400 times the size of the moon and 400 times further away ... apparently.

Thus the solar eclipse is against the odds in any solar system.

You can read the full article here

As far as I know RET has been claiming that the sun is over a million times larger than the earth, and that the earth is over four times larger than the moon, which is why I said the sun is over 4 million times larger than the moon in the OP. I don't know where they got about "400 times the size" from.

But they are right, it is a cosmic coincidence!

I think that is the difference between the area of the sun and the volume of the sun. The latter being cubed, the former being squared.

But anyhow, the odds are so small it is laughable to cry coincidence.

[Rama Set]

But anyhow, the odds are so small it is laughable to cry coincidence.

Based on all measures, this is the situation they are left in, so what should they cry instead?

It would be a coincidence if he happened to come across two plates that were sequential to each other. That the sun is 0.5 degrees all by itself is not a coincidence. But that both the sun and the moon, the two most important bodies in the earth's sky are nearly exactly the same size in the sky with such great distances and sizes involved, is astonishing.

I agree.  This has nothing to do with whether it is true or not.

[Gulliver]

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As far as I know RET has been claiming that the sun is over a million times larger than the earth, and that the earth is over four times larger than the moon, which is why I said the sun is over 4 million times larger than the moon in the OP. I don't know where they got about "400 times the size" from.

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You're making the sophomoric mistake of confusing the usages of "size", mass and diameter. See: http://planetfacts.org/how-big-is-the-sun-compared-to-the-earth/

[Tom Bishop]

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As far as I know RET has been claiming that the sun is over a million times larger than the earth, and that the earth is over four times larger than the moon, which is why I said the sun is over 4 million times larger than the moon in the OP. I don't know where they got about "400 times the size" from.

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You're making the sophomoric mistake of confusing the usages of "size", mass and diameter. See: http://planetfacts.org/how-big-is-the-sun-compared-to-the-earth/

Your link agrees with me that the sun is over a million times larger than the earth. I don't see what the confusion is. Typically if someone were talking about diameter, mass or surface area, that would specified. That is not what is typically meant my larger. In a comparing of size, the sun in RET is millions of times larger than the moon.

The source in Thork's link may have been talking about diameter.

Sun's Diameter 1,391,684 km / Moon's Diameter 3,474.8 km = 400.5

400.5 moons laid side to side in a straight line can make up the diameter of the sun, but I wouldn't use that in a sentence to say that the sun was 400 times larger than the moon. The author of the link is clearly incorrect in their wording.

[markjo]

Does FET have a better answer?

[infinity]

What exactly is Venus and according to Flat Theory it can only be 100 miles or less across?

https://www.google.com/search?q=venus+transit+sun&tbm=isch&imgil=gvDVYnNMzw7q0M%253A%253BlFNkB60YGWdFKM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.nbcnews.com%25252Fid%25252F47506288%25252Fns%25252Ftechnology_and_science-space%25252Ft%25252Fnext-amazing-sky-sight-venus-transit-sun-june%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=gvDVYnNMzw7q0M%253A%252ClFNkB60YGWdFKM%252C_&usg=__2RTYo5EWVARLb3uHh6467srfdyg%3D&biw=1059&bih=472&ved=0CDcQyjc&ei=QOPwVLLLJdimyASJzIGACw#imgdii=_&imgrc=gvDVYnNMzw7q0M%253A%3BlFNkB60YGWdFKM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmedia3.s-nbcnews.com%252Fj%252FMSNBC%252FComponents%252FPhoto%252F_new%252F120521_tch_venus-transit-gipa.grid-6x2.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nbcnews.com%252Fid%252F47506288%252Fns%252Ftechnology_and_science-space%252Ft%252Fnext-amazing-sky-sight-venus-transit-sun-june%252F%3B474%3B474

[Tom Bishop]

Does FET have a better answer?

A better answer is that the moon and sun appear to be the same size because they are the same size.

It also makes sense to have a universe with kinds of bodies that are the same sizes. Not wildly different sizes, where one star can be thousands or millions of times bigger than another.

[Rama Set]

It also makes sense to have a universe with kinds of bodies that are the same sizes. Not wildly different sizes, where one star can be thousands or millions of times bigger than another.

Ehhh.... Not really. Makes sense to you maybe, but what physical principle are proposing that favors this kind of extreme homogeneity?

[markjo]

Does FET have a better answer?

A better answer is that the moon and sun appear to be the same size because they are the same size.

Except that having the sun and moon the same size would make eclipses much more problematic (especially annular eclipses).

It also makes sense to have a universe with kinds of bodies that are the same sizes. Not wildly different sizes, where one star can be thousands or millions of times bigger than another.

Just about everything in nature comes in various sizes.  Why should celestial bodies be any different?

[Tom Bishop]

It also makes sense to have a universe with kinds of bodies that are the same sizes. Not wildly different sizes, where one star can be thousands or millions of times bigger than another.

Ehhh.... Not really. Makes sense to you maybe, but what physical principle are proposing that favors this kind of extreme homogeneity?

All of them.

It also makes sense to have a universe with kinds of bodies that are the same sizes. Not wildly different sizes, where one star can be thousands or millions of times bigger than another.

Just about everything in nature comes in various sizes.  Why should celestial bodies be any different?

Actually, everything does not come in various sizes. Do the atoms of the ocean come in various sizes? Have you ever seen a pebble as big as a boulder? Ever seen an elephant as small as a mouse, or a volcano as big as an ant hill?

I could go on, but you get my drift.

[Rama Set]

All of them.

Oh great. Can you explain how entropy favors this?  Why is the Earth so much bigger than the sun and moon in FET?

Actually, everything does not come in various sizes. Do the atoms of the ocean come in various sizes? Have you ever seen a pebble as big as a boulder? Ever seen an elephant as small as a mouse, or a volcano as big as an ant hill?

I could go on, but you get my drift.

Let's go one more... Have you ever seen a sun the same size as a moon?

[markjo]

Actually, everything does not come in various sizes. Do the atoms of the ocean come in various sizes?

Are you suggesting that hydrogen atoms are the same size as oxygen atoms? 

Have you ever seen a pebble as big as a boulder?

"Pebble" and "boulder" are names for the relative sizes of rocks, not rocks themselves.

Ever seen an elephant as small as a mouse...

I would contend that mouse embryos and elephant embryos start out about the same size.

...or a volcano as big as an ant hill?

Well, you seem to be pretty good at making mountains out of a mole hills.

I could go on, but you get my drift.

Yes, I get that you completely miss my point.  Mice and elephants are mammals that are vastly different in size.  Pebbles and boulders are rocks that are vastly different in size. 

I could go on, but you get my drift.