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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How does FE think that GPS works?

« on: October 08, 2017, 11:52:21 PM »

GPS works just fine within the High Frequency band. All planes are equipped with antenna for such GPS. They call it, over the horizon, in short meaning waaay long distance, towers can't reach, no such thing as satellites and we must bounce the digital packets off the ionosphere or dome. As I said you need communication to a home base receiver which its position is exact and you can find anything else.

JMan doubling down on crazy. Can radio frequencies be bounced off the ionosphere? Yes. But it is an area of the atmosphere that ranges from 60 km (37 mi) to 1,000 km (620 mi). It's not an exact point that you reflect a signal from, you know, like a dome.

GPS works using mathematical calculations depending on exact timing of the signals and the distance they travel. (They being plural since is requires multiple satellite signals).

It couldn't possibly work by bouncing signals from balloons and base stations off random layers of the atmosphere.

You're really not helping your cause by just making up nonsense and posting it.

But in retrospect, the topic of the post was "How does FE think that GPS works?", so I guess you've answered that question.

Not so fast Mr. Deceiver

"Before the first communications satellites were launched in the 1960s, high-frequency (HF) radio was the principal means to communicate beyond the horizon."

"However, we are seeing a resurgence in HF radio, in part because new automatic link establishment (ALE) protocols now make HF a reliable, low-cost alternative to satellite."

http://urgentcomm.com/mobile_voice/mag/hf-radio-use-201103

Every plane today is equipped with HF for over the horizon GPS, bypassing satellites. So the truth is out, satellites aren't and were never needed, therefore they are a figment of your imagination.

"Once pushed aside by satellite communications, this radio type still is relevant for over-the-horizon communications."

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How does FE think that GPS works?

« on: October 08, 2017, 07:30:50 PM »

GPS works just fine within the High Frequency band. All planes are equipped with antenna for such GPS. They call it, over the horizon, in short meaning waaay long distance, towers can't reach, no such thing as satellites and we must bounce the digital packets off the ionosphere or dome. As I said you need communication to a home base receiver which its position is exact and you can find anything else.

The coronal mass ejections of last month had little effect. Carry on, all scary tactics for MORE MONEY please for our demonic scientist freeks.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How does FE think that GPS works?

« on: October 07, 2017, 05:01:37 PM »

....except apparently even the bible points to a round earth..

http://www.eternal-productions.org/PDFS/articles/Does%20the%20Bible%20Teach%20a%20Spherical%20Earth.pdf

This thread got way off topic though. junker might want to just lock it or move it.

Actually junker should just delete your post since it's not factual or on topic

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: High tide(s)

« on: October 07, 2017, 03:54:28 PM »

Understanding High and Low tides doesn't have to be a difficult task. One needs to keep track and they will continue with regularity till the end of time. Tides are the movement of water and water is very important to God. In his creation of the universe, water was made on the 2nd day.
Genesis1-6 And God said, Let there be a firmament (dome) in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Now some scoffed at the notion that the tides could be tied to Gods breathing. So, I asked him. You see God wants men to be humble and "Men do therefore fear him: he respects not any that are wise of heart".

In John 7:38
"To the one who believes in Me, it is just as the Scripture has said: 'Streams of living water will flow from within him.'" So rest assured I believe and the knowledge I give is from God.
Now what is water? Water is Gods knowledge. In Isaiah the water is a simile for the knowledge of God. We are baptized in it. Water symbolizes Gods Word in many places throughout the Bible. In both Psalms and Ephesians water is symbols of God's word. Ephesians 5:26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word.

Now lets dig a little deeper. Is water living? YES, Living water is a biblical term which appears in both the Old and New Testaments. In Jeremiah 2:13 and 17:13, the prophet describes God as "the spring of living water", who has been forsaken by his chosen people Israel.

Then we have Job being scolded by God in
38:8 “Who shut up the sea behind doors when it burst forth from the womb,
9 when I made the clouds its garment and wrapped it in thick darkness,
10 when I fixed limits for it and set its doors and bars in place,
11 when I said, ‘This far you may come and no farther; here is where your proud waves halt’?

Break the word down, The SEA has doors or passage ways and a womb (womens birth canal), it wears garments signifying a living thing, placing limits on its travel destinations and having a mind/heart of it’s own that feels PRIDE. Oh yes my friends the sea is a living thing created by God.

And living things: BREATHE regularly…..

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Best Eric Dubay videos

« on: October 07, 2017, 02:15:09 AM »

Curious Squirrel,

Who in the FE community has any bit of credibility? Honestly just really curious, I am not trying to patronize you.

I can send you a PM if you're really interested in it, there's at least a few on each forum.

I would appreciate that CS, whenever you get time that'd be great! Cheers 

Is this code for who are the paid shills? The ones that twist the truth to meet the RE agenda while acting all FE.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Best Eric Dubay videos

« on: October 06, 2017, 07:08:55 PM »

Just trying to see if any credible scientist/mathematician (someone that has advanced degrees from an accredited university) have any good points?

Do you realize how stupid this is? Here is what the :National Center for Science Education, Inc. says

"This textbook contains material on Gravity. Universal Gravity is a theory, not a fact, regarding the natural law of attraction."
"The Universal Theory of Gravity is often taught in schools as a fact, when in fact it is not even a good theory.

First of all, no one has measured gravity for every atom and every star. It is simply a religious belief that it is "universal".

Secondly, school textbooks routinely make false statements. For example, "the moon goes around the earth." If the theory of gravity were true, it would show that the sun's gravitational force on the moon is much stronger than the earth's gravitational force on the moon, so the moon would go around the sun. Anybody can look up at night and see the obvious gaps in gravity theory."

https://ncse.com/library-resource/gravity-its-only-theory

Then there's this little problem with your so called "credible scientist/mathematician" who have yet to figure out what 95% of the universe of their world is. They can blah blah, drop mics but in fact they are retards, less than a child's brain.

Run along now, if you want answers you can address me as J-Man, I'm privy to most everything in life son.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How does FE think that GPS works?

« on: October 06, 2017, 01:02:21 AM »

GPS works just fine off repeater antennas, balloons, bouncing off the dome and home base communication.

Banned? What and miss this entertainment?

So several people (myself included) posted logical, thoughtful comments. And you just repeat the BS about GPS working with balloons. I'll chalk this one up as a RE win until you present some actual facts or evidence. Which I know you can't.

Or better yet, explain how position can be established using a non directional signal bounced off the inside of a dome. That should be fun.

That is an easy one. The good book (Bible) says God hears us all, so when we go to bounce communication of any type off the dome it doesn't really matter the direction. God knows from whom and to who even before it's sent.

So yes "God did It"

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Anti-gravity or Weightlessness

« on: October 06, 2017, 12:57:13 AM »

So I'm talking to someone I've known a long time and they look at me while I'm explaining some FE facts.

Question comes firing at me with a stern voice. You mean to tell me you don't believe those pictures of the astronuts we see all the time floating isn't real? You're telling me they aren't floating.

Of course my response is no they are falling back to earth at 17,500 MPH. There is no Gravity it's density, lighter than air and they're falling. No such thing as anti-gravity or weightlessness by being up in space.

Person goes fucking ballistic, mad as hell, calling me crazy, I'm a nut. What the fuck do you think we've seen all this time?

Fakery.....

So just trying to explain what NASA is explaining to the world, this person doesn't believe it because they are dumbed down and conditioned to float. Ice cream float, float a check, Macys parade float, floaties

People are sheeple I tell you, waaay too much fluoride and chemtrail sniffing. Some recently told me they are finding Flouride in all processed food now on testing. Crazy, wouldn't doubt it.

Dude, you actually got some stuff right! I think I must be rubbing off on you. No anti-gravity, no weightlessness, just people falling over the horizon. Well done, J-man, and welcome to the truth - the Earth is a globe. Proud of you. We'll work on the fluoride and chemtrail stuff. Baby steps.

Like Terry
I saw a video where a pilot was flying above the sun, then thru it, made a complete loop de loop and came straight back out the center directly at me. Musta been CGI, no?

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Flat Earth Community / Anti-gravity or Weightlessness

« on: October 05, 2017, 11:52:18 PM »

So I'm talking to someone I've known a long time and they look at me while I'm explaining some FE facts.

Question comes firing at me with a stern voice. You mean to tell me you don't believe those pictures of the astronuts we see all the time floating isn't real? You're telling me they aren't floating.

Of course my response is no they are falling back to earth at 17,500 MPH. There is no Gravity it's density, lighter than air and they're falling. No such thing as anti-gravity or weightlessness by being up in space.

Person goes fucking ballistic, mad as hell, calling me crazy, I'm a nut. What the fuck do you think we've seen all this time?

Fakery.....

So just trying to explain what NASA is explaining to the world, this person doesn't believe it because they are dumbed down and conditioned to float. Ice cream float, float a check, Macys parade float, floaties

People are sheeple I tell you, waaay too much fluoride and chemtrail sniffing. Some recently told me they are finding Flouride in all processed food now on testing. Crazy, wouldn't doubt it.

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Flat Earth Community / 2000 year old Antikythera Mechanism proves FE belief.

« on: October 05, 2017, 10:43:23 PM »

Derek De Solla Price did what no man could or would do. It wasn't till he died that the powers that be, added to the Antikythera Mechanism the planets, to justify a globe earth. What Price built and uncovered was a mechanism that only had the Sun and Moon tracking. Dig deep in this and one will find it similar to this website. The few Geniuses and the many deceivers all day everyday yelling no no no it's a globe earth. You mean nothing. There is no God.....

Got news for you, there is a God, earth is flat and once again 2000 years ago it's proven.

Study and look up
The J-Man cometh

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The vanishing point

« on: October 05, 2017, 10:27:45 PM »

Man you must envision the lines drawn past those mtn's (get it? mtnman). Putting in cross sexting lines on the side only works if you turn sideways and look out to the vanishing points. Peripheral vision doesn't work in this instance.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why just water?

« on: October 05, 2017, 10:22:15 PM »

I frequently see comments with the author sharing a disbelief that water could be retained on a "spinning ball". Why is the focus always on water? Why not planes, people and atmosphere, etc.  also?

The water here is perfectly still, it proves no spin. It's sooo elementary it's ridiculous not to see of feel it missing.

The water is moving along at the same spin rate of the Earth. I love your posts because they are so ridiculously ignorant of even basic physics. Ever drive with a cup of coffee in your car? Did it continually force its way to the back of the cup or did it settle down once you were up to speed?

If I held the CUP perfectly level (via plywood, w/level under), the coffee would force to the edge nearest the rear of truck. I drive a truck, manly man. Momentum thing.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How does FE think that GPS works?

« on: October 05, 2017, 10:16:15 PM »

J-Man really draws a crowd, 3 pitbull types again with weak jaws. J-man makes them bow to the owner. No guys Gravity cannot be proved even Mic Dropper doesn't know what it is, no one has seen it.

GPS works just fine off repeater antennas, balloons, bouncing off the dome and home base communication.

I thought you guys were going to ignore me or get me banned? Weak

I bring Truth, knowledge you can afford to be told to the masses.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Sun and other planets flat

« on: October 05, 2017, 10:09:08 PM »

Amazing, three different pit bulls jump to the head of class and say no no no J-Man, it's not what you know and see, it's this. 3 completely different answers, none of which are accurate. The sun does illuminate half the flat earth and travels around in a circle. We see it everyday.

Bye bye come again, here's your doggie bones

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why just water?

« on: October 05, 2017, 07:00:35 PM »

I frequently see comments with the author sharing a disbelief that water could be retained on a "spinning ball". Why is the focus always on water? Why not planes, people and atmosphere, etc.  also?

The water here is perfectly still, it proves no spin. It's sooo elementary it's ridiculous not to see or feel it missing.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The vanishing point

« on: October 05, 2017, 06:57:44 PM »

I have read the wiki article on sunsets. https://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_Sun

I have a question for Tom Bishop on this topic. Why is the vanishing point only relevant at the horizon?

From the wiki:

...since man cannot perceive infinity due to human limitations, the perspective lines are modified and placed a finite distance away from the observer as so: (diagram omitted)

This finite distance to the vanishing point is what allows ships to ascend into horizon...

Why wouldn't the converging perspective lines apply in all directions equally?

The problem with this perspective line is that if in fact the Earth were a globe you wouldn't get these breathe taking pictures. The lines prove flat earth once again. Enjoy the link for amazing perspective photos.





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2507144/photographer-Michael-Kittell-captures-Bolivian-Salt-flats.html

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Sun and other planets flat

« on: October 05, 2017, 06:36:49 PM »

I'm beginning to notice this happening more and more as I watch closely now events unfolding for the many flat earthers. Regardless of what anyone says, this IS proof the sun is very close to us.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How does FE think that GPS works?

« on: October 05, 2017, 06:20:04 PM »

infinity/limits has never been my thing, really is interesting that it works that way. have never looked into special relativity, shits amazing

Anyways the cell tower thing doesnt strike me since ships still have navigation and gps coordinates. Still amazes me that the military just lets us use GPS for free. Weather balloons could make sense but they don't chill up there forever. helium leaks over time from what I know, but with higher quality balloons maybe it wouldnt? not sure. Thanks to all the explanations about the gravity thing!

There are over 1,800 weather balloons released EVERY SINGLE DAY....Now add just as many secret ones daily, you ever seen one?

 NOPE

4,000 everyday and you've never seen one.

GPS uses satellites. known and understood.  See documentation.

What about gravity? Satellites would fall back to earth like everything else does then stick to the surface like water and peoples. See documentation and facts.

I'd be happy to explain how orbits work!

Orbits work quite well by, you know, going around the earth. The misconception that sattelites do not experience gravity is false.

Sattelites have forward velocity. this is always tangential to their current orbit position. The only thing keeping them in a curve is gravity itself pulling satellites back in to the center of the earth. Imagine tying a ball to a string, and spinning that ball by the string around in a lasso like motion. the ball is orbiting around right? Now if you cut the string, the ball is going to fly out in a forward direction from where it was cut. This is the forward velocity of our sattelites, and the string is the gravity pulling the ball back into earth. Putting sattelites and other things into orbit on a consistent schedule by nasa, spacex, orbital sciences etc is an amazing feat of modern human advancement that is sadly outright denied here.

Also: when launching into space, the arc you see is to give enough forward velocity to sattelites so they can go forward fast enough to not crash into earth. It's not "nasa crashing into the sea to hide the fact that the earth is flat". This is just disrespectful to the men and women who have spent countless hours to get humanity to this level. 

Heres a simple video:



That being said, now we know how Round earth believes that GPS works (and how they made it work). Is there any theories that make sense from the FE side on how GPS works?

Balloons would be knocked around with wind which is unpredictable and changes our previous idea of where the balloon is, and this destroy the accuracy of GPS', so that theory doesnt really add up. Cell towers dont work because GPS still works at sea. Even if we were to say that ships use stars for navigation, it doesnt explain apple iphones having gps connection at sea.

This video reminds me of one big fairy tale. Finding the balance like on an amplifier for my stereo. Just dial it in perfectly to orbit around for years and years...he he  There is no way a satellite can fall back to earth perfectly timed to gravity and a spinning ball. That's all Newton make believe. We don't even know what gravity is because there is no gravity.

Keep trying guys, the six of you with your aliases just keep talking to each other explaining what we the flat earthers believe...no we don't believe what you think. We believe in truth.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Korabl-Sputnik I aka "Sputnik IV"

« on: October 03, 2017, 04:05:53 AM »

How does all of this translate to the Russian debris ending up in Wisconsin without anyone witnessing anything?
Can we stay on topic, instead of running off on a tangent about the US and USSR saber-rattling?

You know all the museums with fake bigfoots?

How do you know the space junk is from sputniker? You don't.

So there you win, the satellite zoomed around above the dome for 2 years, then entered back thru the hole it made leaving for space and fell to earth in wisc.  Ya happy now? NIGHT

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Korabl-Sputnik I aka "Sputnik IV"

« on: October 03, 2017, 03:23:06 AM »

You may be right on the 5 mt stinker but the secret video says we should expect 10 MT from the Soviets. And we all know we underestimated their power and knowledge. I have no doubt they could do 100 MT but after TSAR too dangerous.

So I stand by my thinking icbm's would be devastating and Russia had all the power they needed to knock ours out if need be.