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Flat Earth Media / Re: An interesting challenge from Michael Toonz
« Last post by Action80 on March 26, 2024, 07:43:14 PM »
I see.

The calculations he offered WRT the "round" earth were from an on-line calculator.  The page with the calculator describes how the calculations are done.  The resulting prediction was correct.

The "round earth calculator" actually has the "celestial sphere," math.

The other calculations were done using one particular flat earth model and some simple grade 9 math.  As he pointed out, there seems to be some issue with which flat earth model to choose and what the elevation of the sun is as flat earther's themselves cannot agree on those important aspects of their "theory".

However, you mention "physical aspects of the celestial sphere".  Perhaps they would be a way to make a reliable prediction.  So, which physical aspects are we talking about and what is the mathematical model for their use?
The only issue with the math is how one chooses to label it. The math is the same.

One group believes the numbers are a result of a spherical earth, the other group knows it is the "celestial sphere" providing the basis for the numbers.
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Flat Earth Media / Re: An interesting challenge from Michael Toonz
« Last post by BillO on March 26, 2024, 05:58:59 PM »
I see.

The calculations he offered WRT the "round" earth were from an on-line calculator.  The page with the calculator describes how the calculations are done.  The resulting prediction was correct.

The other calculations were done using one particular flat earth model and some simple grade 9 math.  As he pointed out, there seems to be some issue with which flat earth model to choose and what the elevation of the sun is as flat earther's themselves cannot agree on those important aspects of their "theory".

However, you mention "physical aspects of the celestial sphere".  Perhaps they would be a way to make a reliable prediction.  So, which physical aspects are we talking about and what is the mathematical model for their use?
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Flat Earth Media / Re: An interesting challenge from Michael Toonz
« Last post by Action80 on March 26, 2024, 04:02:56 PM »
He is assuming facts not in evidence when he offers up calculations based on a round earth. In reality, the sunset times reflect the sun's setting time over a flat earth. The angle measures are simply a transcription of a celestial sphere to locations below on the flat earth plane. And the sun really does not "set". It remains above the entire plane at all times. As it revolves over our heads, it becomes fully occluded by physical aspects of the celestial sphere.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Rushy on March 26, 2024, 02:47:03 PM »
Did the bank send assessors?

Apparently not, the bank testified to just taking his word for it. He did, however, pay off the loan. The bank also testified that they automatically reduce any valuations Trump gives them, lmao.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-letitia-james-fraud-new-york-364d1052f98816121000c26dc66f3878
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on March 26, 2024, 01:49:23 PM »
Also, isn't his networth increase due to Truth Social going public and the initial expected stock surge which will likely drop like a stone to its true worth soon after?

Yes. It's paper wealth in perhaps its most extreme form. Trump can't realize it and it's not going to help him pay his debts or cut any deals with financial institutions.

Ironically, this case proved he paid his debts to financial institutions. The fine is brought by the state claiming it was fraud to overstate the value of his property to the bank. The same bank that sent assessors to the property and accepted Trump's valuation of it. The debt to the bank is long paid off and they admitted they'd do business with him again.

This case is nothing more than government corruption. "For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law."
Did the bank send assessors? 
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Rushy on March 26, 2024, 01:40:05 PM »
Also, isn't his networth increase due to Truth Social going public and the initial expected stock surge which will likely drop like a stone to its true worth soon after?

Yes. It's paper wealth in perhaps its most extreme form. Trump can't realize it and it's not going to help him pay his debts or cut any deals with financial institutions.

Ironically, this case proved he paid his debts to financial institutions. The fine is brought by the state claiming it was fraud to overstate the value of his property to the bank. The same bank that sent assessors to the property and accepted Trump's valuation of it. The debt to the bank is long paid off and they admitted they'd do business with him again.

This case is nothing more than government corruption. "For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law."
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« Last post by Rushy on March 26, 2024, 01:27:14 PM »
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Flat Earth Media / An interesting challenge from Michael Toonz
« Last post by BillO on March 26, 2024, 12:53:47 PM »
*Edited*

He goes through the calculations to predict the sunset on a flat earth and uses an on-line calculator to do the same for a globe.  However, there is a discrepancy in the results that needs some explaining from the flat earth "perspective"

Any answers from him?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by honk on March 26, 2024, 03:40:14 AM »
Also, isn't his networth increase due to Truth Social going public and the initial expected stock surge which will likely drop like a stone to its true worth soon after?

Yes. It's paper wealth in perhaps its most extreme form. Trump can't realize it and it's not going to help him pay his debts or cut any deals with financial institutions.