[Bobby Shafto]

The sun first appears as the top arc of a circle at sunrise:


The sun last appears as the top arc of a circle at sunset:


But according to theTFES wiki, a "spotlight effect" limits what part of the earth the sun illuminates. Yet, the sun is a sphere:

The sun is a sphere. "Spotlight" refers to the spot-of-light the sun's light casts upon the earth, and is often misinterpreted to mean that the sun is non-spherical or only shines light in one direction.

I think such misinterpretation is understandable, since how can a light source be spherical, radiating light in all directions, yet also be a spotlight? Lights in parabolic mirrors, or recessed in a reflector, or shaded in order to produce a spot, don't appear as spherical (or circular) when off axis from their spot. And yet the sun retains it's upper arc from its first moment of appearance to the very last moment of disappearance.

Not inviting debate (on this forum, anyway). Just trying to understand how it might be possible.

[Stagiri]

Some of FEers propose the electromagnetic accelerator theory.

EDIT: see this thread.

[AATW]

Not inviting debate (on this forum, anyway). Just trying to understand how it might be possible.

Well, it isn't. But this is where their model of perspective comes to the rescue. In their model the sun is a sphere so you always see a circle but as it gets further away it moves closer to the horizon by perspective (which would happen) until it merges into the horizon (which wouldn't).

[Max_Almond]

Related to this is the question of how the shape of the part of the Earth the sun lights up changes from day to day.

Here is the shape of light the sun casts on the Earth for the equinoxes and solstices:



So it's not just a spotlight, but a shapeshifting spotlight to boot!

[Tom Bishop]

Related to this is the question of how the shape of the part of the Earth the sun lights up changes from day to day.

Here is the shape of light the sun casts on the Earth for the equinoxes and solstices:

https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/flat-earth-sun-patterns-jpg.29550/

So it's not just a spotlight, but a shapeshifting spotlight to boot!

Those images are assuming an RET.

[Max_Almond]

Those images are assuming an RET.

No they're not.

[douglips]

The images do not assume RET - they are based on thousands of years of observations. The map itself may not be an accurate FET map, but the lit and unlit patterns are correct.

Remember the giant conversation we had about the equinox, and finally we found that website with all the solar panels from all over the world?

That is the pattern of sunlight on earth. Making it fit a flat earth theory is YOUR problem, not mine.

[Max_Almond]

If the patterns of sunlight on Earth have been confirmed, then this also confirms the above map as the Flat Earth map.

Those maps were actually created by taking all the Earth's coordinate points and using them to generate either "land" or "water".

To explain: any given coordinate is either land or water. The algorithm that generated these maps didn't know what it was drawing, only that it was plotting either land or water. The results perfectly matched both a globe projection and the Gleason AE map.

The patterns of sunlight were generated by plotting areas of coordinates which were in daylight.

[Tom Bishop]

The images do not assume RET - they are based on thousands of years of observations. The map itself may not be an accurate FET map, but the lit and unlit patterns are correct.

Remember the giant conversation we had about the equinox, and finally we found that website with all the solar panels from all over the world?

That is the pattern of sunlight on earth. Making it fit a flat earth theory is YOUR problem, not mine.

I recall from that thread that you weren't able to demonstrate that the daylight patterns were correct.

Did the person making that image personally verify the Round Earth model for daylight?

[Max_Almond]

Remember the giant conversation we had about the equinox, and finally we found that website with all the solar panels from all over the world?

Link?

[douglips]

Remember the giant conversation we had about the equinox, and finally we found that website with all the solar panels from all over the world?

Link?

Buckle up, it's about to get exciting. The solar output idea is developed on page 3 but you should read the entire thread.

It also includes such things as denying timeanddate.com .

Now that I review, the only missing piece is some indication of how long after sunrise a solar installation begins to generate power, but maybe we could figure that out by looking at different days of the year or something.
https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=7469.0

[Max_Almond]

The great thing about reading the old threads is seeing what a colossal timewaster Tom is, which in turn saves the effort of thinking there's a purpose in engaging with him.

He's been saying exactly the same things for a good 11 years+ now, and doesn't seem to have learned a thing.

His objections to timeanddate.com are a case in point: "did you personally measure every location on land or sea to verify whether the data is accurate or not? In that case: doesn't count."

But maybe there are others who read this, perhaps on the verge of falling into the abyss, who see: a) Tom's ridiculousness, and total lack of mature interaction; and b) the reams of very good information and evidence those like yourself put forward.

That's about the only saving grace in all this.

Oh, and how amusing it is. ;-)