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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 27, 2022, 12:37:39 PM »
Rama Set insists that doctors should be forced to provide medical services regardless of their conscientious or ethical beliefs. Why should a doctor be forced to provide abortion pills when they feel it goes against their oath as a doctor?

If a cashier at an alcohol shop feels its unethical to sell alcohol, what should they do?

I don't think the law should force anyone to sell alcohol if they don't want to. Nor should the alcohol store be obligated to hire them.

In this case the clinic is fine with hiring a doctor who won't prescribe abortion pills. The argument is whether the law should force doctors to provide medical services regardless of their personal beliefs. Why should the law get involved to force the doctor to provide abortion pills?
You never answered the question.
What.  Should.  The.  Cashier.  Do?
Its a pretty simple question.  He either sells it, doesn't sell it, or quits his job.  Those are his choices.  And if you have moral issues selling alcohol... Why did you apply for a job that would require you to do it?

As for the clinic...
Did the clinic know before hand?  Is it a clinic that handles abortion based medical services? 
Basically: is there a possibility that abortion pill prescription would come up at this clinic when said doctor applied for the job?


Also: if he doesn't do his job, the clinic should be allowed to fire him.  Just like every other job if someone refuses to do a legal part of it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 27, 2022, 06:38:43 AM »
Rama Set insists that doctors should be forced to provide medical services regardless of their conscientious or ethical beliefs. Why should a doctor be forced to provide abortion pills when they feel it goes against their oath as a doctor?

If a cashier at an alcohol shop feels its unethical to sell alcohol, what should they do?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: January 25, 2022, 05:32:12 AM »
Its funny how Tom thinks any vehicle can have infinite weight.  As though a semi trailer doesn't have its own weight restriction, which major bridges in excellent condition can accomodate with ease.

Its also telling how Tom doesn't want the Free Market to function but instead wants Joe Biden to force stores and producers to meed demand.... Sounds.... Communist...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 23, 2022, 06:29:08 PM »
Fun fact: I don't live in America. Sooooo not realistic for me. :P
And while the hormone therapy may only take 1-2 years, you still need to diagnose said person and develop a plan for transition. And pay for it.


But, that's now how the US Collegiate NCAA interprets time-lines for transitioning.

So I guess you would just tell your biologically male daughter "great job" and your biologically female daughter "oh well"?

Truthfully?  I'd tell my trans daughter not to compete as its going to cause issues for all trans folks.  Especially since records and such are meaningless in the grand scheme of life.  Unless you're a pro-swimmer after college.




He assumes every child is loved by their parents and have a good understanding of sexuality. 
The vast majority of children are loved by their parents. It's a thing nature does to stop you abandoning them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin
And yet child abuse is a thing...
As for a good understanding of sexuality:  maybe because they had sex ed?  Like, are pimples good or bad?  When can I get a girl pregnant?  Can you get pregnant from oral sex?
But as my little pie chart shows ... abuse from teachers is way more common. They are the number one perpetrators.
Do you know who has the most contact with children?  Teachers.  So your data is basically saying "the group who spends the most time with the most children is also the group that has the most abusers.
Also, i'd love to see how many of those abusers were health teachers and not, say... Any ither kind.  Because it seems to be you're trying to say that teachers who teach sex ed are somehow more likely to abuse children vs other types of teachers.  Which is odd, all things considered.  Especially since sex ed is like... A week of class.

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Rabbits are not humans and don't have complex societies.  They also have mating seasons, while humans do not.  They also are mature ,sexually, after 6 months of living.  And their behavior is hormone driven.  Imagine if people were purely hornome driven.  It would be like teenagers but without any filters.
Imagine thinking that humans are different to all other creatures ... but only after the 1960s at which point sex education needed to be delivered.
Imagine thinking a problem didn't exist until someone tried to solve it.



So said parent goes 'Ask your teacher'.
Then kids end up using google and get nothing but porn sites.  Because that'll be healthy....
I live in a country where VPNs cost subscription money, ISPs block porn sites, browsers block porn sites, mobile phones block porn sites and search engines block porn sites. Children don't watch as much porn as your favourite tabloid newspaper might suggest.
I do not live in a country like that. USA isn't like that. But my point wasn't that they'd go looking for porn, my point was that porn would be what they found most when searching for answers. 
Then lobby your government for some parental controls on the internet instead of lobbying them to mandate that teachers talk to your kids about gay sex.  ::)
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Why?  I'm ok with them talking about gay sex.  As mentioned previously.  Dunno how norwegian sex ed is, tho.

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And unless kids today have become far more wholesome.... Porn was big when I was a teenager.  Clearly your teen days were more... Tame.
Porn in my teens was finding a soggy torn up magazine in the woods and trying to put the pieces back together to reveal a fat middle aged woman smothered in cream.

I was a teenager from 1991-1997. No one was on the internet back then. I shudder to think how long it would take to download a 240p 5 min video on AOL dial up.
I was a teenager from 1996-2002.  I was on the internet well before then and let me tell you... There was porn.  I know, I've seen it.  I remember it.  Tho I usually read sex stories. 

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So ban teachers, got it.
Almost, but you are getting there. Just ban teachers from teaching children about homosexuality. They can still teach them English, Maths and Science. You know, subjects that might help them get a job one day. The actual reason we send children to school in the first place. We don't send them to talk to middle aged men about being gay.
Nor should we ask a teacher to not help a student if they ask for advice.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 23, 2022, 05:56:35 PM »
Fun fact: I don't live in America. Sooooo not realistic for me. :P
And while the hormone therapy may only take 1-2 years, you still need to diagnose said person and develop a plan for transition. And pay for it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 23, 2022, 05:28:35 PM »
No... its not.
mental illness is a styigma.  If someone has say... Bipolar disorder, and you tell them "Its not ok that you have bipolar.  You should stop being bipolar" well... that's terrible advice.  But accepting that they have Bipolar and that it's ok they have it, and encouraging them to get help is also good.

"It's okay to be bi-polar... but also... it's not, get help."

I'm sure you are an excellent authority figure for children.

Indeed you will find that it’s beneficial to one’s mental health not to shame them for things out of their control. Once your algorithm progresses you will understand.

I actually didn't say anything about shaming them.

Dave could simply say: "You're bi-polar? I grew up with several mental conditions myself, probably worse than you. Psychotherapy was a big help for me. You should ask your parents."

No need to lie to them.

Rama said it quite well.

You, however, just marginized their suffering.  Just... Wow...
"Probably worse than you" is the equivilent of saying 'suck it up'.  You, as a person not experiencing their issues, should never say 'I had it worse than you' because you don't know how they have it and probably never will.

But since you have issues with understanding concepts like acceptance, let me help.

Acceptance means not having to hide.  Doesn't mean we want you to keep being sick.


Let's say you are a trans-sexual (a biological male that now identifies as a Female -- maybe you already are or aren't) and your significant other / love partner is also a trans-sexual (also a biological male that now identifies as a female Lesbian).

You both adopt a biologically male baby that has now reached the age of 19 and comes and talks to you about how He wants to now transition and identify as a Female. Obviously during that talk, your are going to be O.K. with it and give your adopted child love and acceptance.

Your 19 year old male teen (before transitioning) has been a Champion swimmer amongst all male athletes at University. Said teen comes and tells you that they are going to now compete (following their transition and hormonal treatments) in the female swimming league and ends up breaking all kinds of records.

Your straight 21 year old adopted daughter calls up her trans-sexual parents (you and your love partner), crying in despair because she feels that it's unfair competition; she's been training her whole life to be a Champion swimmer but is now (along with all swimmers competing) getting beat by her trans-sexual (biologically male) sister.

What do you tell your straight daughter in terms of acceptance?

Wow, what an oddly specific and very long scenario.

But ok.
1. One of the effects of estrogen treatments is to decrease muscle mass.
2. The process of transitioning takes years, which includes psychological evaluations.  Which means my 19 year old son will either be finished with college by then (and thus not compete) or be very deep into studies.  Assuming there's even a swim team here in college.  Not sure since college level sports aren't a thing here.
3. In the reality breaking situation where you described is true, again, said 19 year old would take years to transition so its not an issue.  But if I had to say something I'd say 'There is nothing he can do that you can't do as well.  Or better.'

Because your essentially complaining that X person is better than me.






He assumes every child is loved by their parents and have a good understanding of sexuality. 
The vast majority of children are loved by their parents. It's a thing nature does to stop you abandoning them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin
And yet child abuse is a thing...
As for a good understanding of sexuality:  maybe because they had sex ed?  Like, are pimples good or bad?  When can I get a girl pregnant?  Can you get pregnant from oral sex?

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Now I'm picturing a world a generation or two down where 'Ask your parents' goes into a loop because the parents don't know shit because they weren't taught anything because their parents didn't know anything.
your parents managed to form a relationship, have sex and then produce you. The idea that they 'don't know shit' is ridiculous. A rabbit is able to set up a family. Do rabbits do sex ed? Name a single other creature that needs sex education please.
Rabbits are not humans and don't have complex societies.  They also have mating seasons, while humans do not.  They also are mature ,sexually, after 6 months of living.  And their behavior is hormone driven.  Imagine if people were purely hornome driven.  It would be like teenagers but without any filters.

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So said parent goes 'Ask your teacher'.
Then kids end up using google and get nothing but porn sites.  Because that'll be healthy....
I live in a country where VPNs cost subscription money, ISPs block porn sites, browsers block porn sites, mobile phones block porn sites and search engines block porn sites. Children don't watch as much porn as your favourite tabloid newspaper might suggest.
I do not live in a country like that. USA isn't like that. But my point wasn't that they'd go looking for porn, my point was that porn would be what they found most when searching for answers. 

And unless kids today have become far more wholesome.... Porn was big when I was a teenager.  Clearly your teen days were more... Tame.



But why then would you want to have a 40 year old man talk to your child about homosexuality?
Because education is about teaching children about the world that exists, not the world Thork would like to exist.

This is the world that exists.


Until it doesn't ... let's not place children in high risk scenarios unnecessarily.
So ban teachers, got it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 23, 2022, 01:04:58 PM »
Thork's reply explains alot.
He assumes every child is loved by their parents and have a good understanding of sexuality. 
Now I'm picturing a world a generation or two down where 'Ask your parents' goes into a loop because the parents don't know shit because they weren't taught anything because their parents didn't know anything.  So said parent goes 'Ask your teacher'.
Then kids end up using google and get nothing but porn sites.  Because that'll be healthy....

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 23, 2022, 07:06:29 AM »
No... its not.
mental illness is a styigma.  If someone has say... Bipolar disorder, and you tell them "Its not ok that you have bipolar.  You should stop being bipolar" well... that's terrible advice.  But accepting that they have Bipolar and that it's ok they have it, and encouraging them to get help is also good.

"It's okay to be bi-polar... but also... it's not, get help."

I'm sure you are an excellent authority figure for children.

Indeed you will find that it’s beneficial to one’s mental health not to shame them for things out of their control. Once your algorithm progresses you will understand.

I actually didn't say anything about shaming them.

Dave could simply say: "You're bi-polar? I grew up with several mental conditions myself, probably worse than you. Psychotherapy was a big help for me. You should ask your parents."

No need to lie to them.

Rama said it quite well.

You, however, just marginized their suffering.  Just... Wow...
"Probably worse than you" is the equivilent of saying 'suck it up'.  You, as a person not experiencing their issues, should never say 'I had it worse than you' because you don't know how they have it and probably never will.

But since you have issues with understanding concepts like acceptance, let me help.

Acceptance means not having to hide.  Doesn't mean we want you to keep being sick.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 22, 2022, 11:45:42 PM »
Pretty sure the greeks thought it was ok.
No, they didn't. Provide a source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece

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Oh and English theater had only men for centuries.  So those steamy kissy scenes were two dudes.
And children didn't go to the theatre.  ::)
Not sure your point.  They did and they saw it.  They knew it was two guys and as you can see, all of England didn't become gay.

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And being taught facts about human life isn't wrong.  As long as the teacher doesn't try to convince their students that they ARE gay, its fine.
Teachers are encouraging children to be gay. Telling them to consider it. They likely never have until that point.
Pretty sure they aren't.  Not unless a student comes to them and say "I'm fantasizing about my same sex classmate... am I gay?"  But I'd be happy to see your source for that one.

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Its like being taught that there are homophobic people in the world.
Good job men like you are around to talk to young children about gay sex.  ::)
We've talked to my 7 year old son about it.  Saying that some people's "partner" (The word for boyfriend and girlfriend in norwegian is the same: kjæreste) are sometimes the same gender.  And that's ok.

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You aren't born having any sexuality.
You are, actually.  Or rather the hardwired bits are in your brain already, waiting to be activated.  Children gender identify fairly early.
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/gradeschool/Pages/Gender-Identity-and-Gender-Confusion-In-Children.aspx


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You aren't thinking about sex until you hit puberty. Now in the same way as a serial killer might become so because of a childhood experience killing small animals for fun, being gay is the same. If a teacher suddenly starts inserting ideas about how you can be together with someone of the same sex, as a kid you are going to think "What me and my best friend? Great, we can play playstation together forever. Maybe me and John should be gay. He's my best friend. I'll ask equally confused John if he wants to hold hands." And the second that happens the teacher is saying how good they both are and that the class should clap them and accept them. That's a formative moment. Now maybe your kid should kiss John. People wildly approve. And that will ruin your kid's life.
.... Do you think people choos to be gay?  Do you think its as simple as just getting enough social acceptance or likes on facebook and suddenly you're gay?  Tell me, when did you decide you were straight and not gay?  Did your mom and day say "Son... remember, you aren't gay, ok?  You like girls."
Probably not.  (I mean, I dunno... you could have been told that.)
Being Gay is hardwired.  Just like being straight is.  If I paid you a billion pounds to have sex with a man, would that make you gay?  No.  If I told you to enjoy it, could you?  Nope.  You're not gay(as far as I know).  You have no desire to be with men (far as I know).  And no amount of pressure or social acceptance is going to change that.  For you, it'll always feel wrong. Weird.  Unusual.

In your example, you assume that you and John enjoy it.  They like it.  It feels natural.
It won't.  Formative years can do alot of things, such as force you to suppress such feelings.  Force you to find a woman, get married, have kids... all the while fantasizing about John while you fuck her.  Because its wrong to be gay and if you're gay you're sick, a freak of nature, immoral, etc....
But it doesn't make those feelings go away.  You just keep them buried.  Buying quickies in the mens room while you help pass laws to make being gay illegal.


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I wouldn't wish being gay on anyone.
Good thing you can't make someone gay with a wish then.

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The myth that they get married and live happily ever after. No they don't they all get left on their own once they lose their looks and no one wants to f*ck them in the arse anymore.
The myth that they will be happy. No, you'll have no family and you'll be on your own.
The myth that there is no risk. Its highly risky and every new sexual encounter brings the risk of assault or disease.
The myth that it is all about love. No, its about hedonism and lust and if you won't let the guy you just met shove his fist up your backside to appease his every titillation, he'll move on and find someone who will.

Being gay is awful. Why liberals keep lying about this and saying how its exactly the same and just great is only in their heads. I know a bunch of gays, now in their mid-40s and they are all miserable. Utterly invisible to other gays now they are older and they are all depressed. You should make sure your child's formative sexual moments are all about hetronormal relationships with mommies and daddies and babies. And not with leather clad perverts in the toilets of a filthy bar in your city.

Who the hell do you talk to?  Being gay is no different than being straight when it comes to relationships.  How many single mid-40s men do you see being happy?  Hell, how many married mid-40s men are happy?  Haven't you ever heard of a mid-life crisis?  Geeze...
Literally everything you wrote applies to any couple of any configuration.  gay, bi, lesbian, moron harem, BDSM relationships, etc...

Fuck... how many men, straight men, expect the woman to put out or they'll walk away?  Answer: Depends on how despirate said man is but most if not all hope.  God... it's like you assume being straight has none of those exact same things happen.

Well sorry to burst your bubble, but they do.  Alot.  42% alot, in fact.  So maybe you shouldn't be throwing stones at everyone else's glass house while you're inside your own eh?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 22, 2022, 11:20:30 PM »
Not "You don't need to get help" but "Its ok to be sick if you're sick."

That's terrible advice for people who are sick.
No... its not.
mental illness is a styigma.  If someone has say... Bipolar disorder, and you tell them "Its not ok that you have bipolar.  You should stop being bipolar" well... that's terrible advice.  But accepting that they have Bipolar and that it's ok they have it, and encouraging them to get help is also good.

I mean, except for you.
If you're sick like with the flu, you shouldn't be sick.  Its completely unacceptable for YOU to ever be sick.  Should you be sick, even a sniffle, you should be shunned from society like the filthy, disease ridden human you are.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 22, 2022, 08:55:16 PM »
LGBT+ includes a wide range of behaviors and is simply not settled science. Schoolteachers are not qualified to tell children that being asexual is normal. It may be related to health conditions, lack of nutrition, experience, or poor environment.
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You do know that asexual means a lack of sexual attraction or low interest in sex of any kind.  Right?  And yes, it could be related to other health conditions, such as depression.  Or its just asexuality.  Either way, its also ok.  Its ok to be depressed.  Its ok to ask for help.  If you are depressed and suffer from depression, that does not make you a freak or any less human. 

That is what "Its ok" means.  Not "You don't need to get help" but "Its ok to be sick if you're sick."

Tho in this case, not having sexual attraction is also perfecty fine.  Some people just are.  But if other shit is going on, then maybe see a doctor.  Otherwise, who the fuck cares?

See Education is about learning what is or isn't there and knowing what is or isn't ok.
Being gay?  That's ok.  Some people are.
Being Asexual, bisexual, trans?  Also ok.  Some people are.
Being an asshole?  Racist?  Homophobic?  Not ok.  Some people are and those people usually lash out and attack the people they hate.


Remember what Yoda teaches us.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 22, 2022, 08:49:33 PM »
My son has really only learned that people are diverse and that it’s not abnormal to have feelings for people of the same sex. He is in grade 5.
So before he has even begun puberty, you are ramming ideas about being queer into his head. Poor little guy. He is likely interested in Fortnite and playing outside with his friends. Now he wondering why a large hairy man would have feelings for him.

Its not right. You know it isn't right. In all of human history, no people's taught their kids that growing up to be gay was a good idea. But of course you and your frothy mouthed cohort of do-gooders know best as usual.  ::)

You are busy thinking about yourself and what makes you happy. Not what is best for your son.

Pretty sure the greeks thought it was ok.
Oh and English theater had only men for centuries.  So those steamy kissy scenes were two dudes.

And being taught facts about human life isn't wrong.  As long as the teacher doesn't try to convince their students that they ARE gay, its fine.

Its like being taught that there are homophobic people in the world. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 22, 2022, 07:42:41 PM »
This bill is blatent fear mongering.
And its going to fuck up alot of teenagers. 
See teachers are often a source of advice for teens who, for reasons we all should remember, don't want to discuss things with our parents.  And the next option is google.
But now teachers can't for fear of being sued.
"Mr. Jackson... I need some advice if I should join the football team.."
"Sorry Scott, I'm not allowed to give you advice in case it upsets your parents."



And god help the schools when the first 'my kid is being taught evolution instead of God's truth' comes down the pipe.

In fact... What happens if two parents sue over opposing view points?  Like in theory this bill could be used to sue a school for NOT teaching LBGT+ stuff as well as suing for teaching it.



The constitution doesn't say anything about this. It leaves education up to the states to decide, and this one did.

Sex Ed is already optional in most public schools. Parents can choose to opt out on a form to approve sex ed for their children and they won't be put into those courses. I don't see how this LGBT+ education is any different than Sex Ed.

I would prefer that school teachers not try to brainwash children into thinking what may be a debatedly mental disorder for some people is normal. Obviously their goal is to normalize it, not just to inform and educate. If their goal was really education they would save it for later years. But no, it needs to be forced onto young children as well.

Agreed.  I mean, no child alive now would know the word 'gay' let alone ever hear about homosexuality in conversation, news, tv programs, etc ..  nope, totally impossible without a teacher to teach it....

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I’m not so stupid as to think that the corruption of Trump’s children should be blamed on him. Stop projecting your weird North Korean mentality on to me. Instead think about how in 6+ years how you have never found any decision Trump has made to be lacking and how that shows a distinct flaw in your critical faculty.

Yeah, I am sure if Trump's son was corruptly receiving millions of dollars from foreign countries while Trump was president, you would jump up and down and insist that Trump being president had nothing to do with it.

"Who cares who the 'big guy' is. If foreign countries want to give a president's son money they have that right!" - Rama Set assuredly

If Trump's son then transitioned his career to artist and was selling artwork for hundreds of thousands of dollars while Trump was president you also would have no problem with it. People just really want to give a new crack addict artist large amounts of money.  ::)

You are just blatantly lying now.

Nancy Pelosi made millions while in Congress and makes better returns on stock trades than Warren Buffet. I don't see lefties calling her corrupt. The criticism for that comes from the right, not the left. The left generally ignores it.

literal lol. it's genuinely adorable that you think this is true.

Here's an economist saying it - https://www.independent.org/aboutus/person_detail.asp?id=383

https://www.foxbusiness.com/kudlow/kudlow-nancy-pelosi-trading

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I'm extremely worried this evening over a 1% drop in the tech-heavy NASDAQ Index. Why this sudden concern? Because it may do great damage to Nancy Pelosi's almost perfect investment track record.

You may have read that one website has already nominated her as the 2021 Wall Street trader of the year. In fact, reading jacobinmag.com – which I'm told is a left-wing outfit – nonetheless, they have a fabulous story about Ms. Pelosi and her trading acumen.

The Gordon Gekko of the New York Stock Exchange. The oracle of Omaha is dead. Long live the Queen of Stocks.  According to reports, she and her husband Paul Pelosi have traded over $50 million in assets over the past year with annualized returns at 69% as of October, according to an estimate from the Nancy Pelosi portfolio tracker.

That's higher than Buffett, George Soros, Cathy Wood, and other star investors. Apparently, the Pelosi portfolio beat the S&P 500 by 4.9 percent in 2019 and a big 14.3 percent gain in 2020, according to an outfit called FinePrint. Ms. Pelosi is becoming a cult figure among stock investors.

I'll wait for you to find an economist who says otherwise.

Here's a nice site.

https://housestockwatcher.com/summary_by_rep/Hon.%20Nancy%20Pelosi
That's her stats.  Indeed, she owns or has sold over $55 million in stocks over some time period (its not really established how old the data is)

Looking through the others, its kinda  a mixed bag.  Some have only a few thousand dollars, others have double digit millions in stocks.  A few have triple digits.  And its pretty well spread between Dems and Republicans.

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Guys... We are so far off topic Tom Hanks called to ask about volleyballs.

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He probably had voter blocks in his head.
The black vote (African American) is not the same voting block as most Americans.  Ie. Whites.  Different needs, cultural differences, etc...
So he probably just lumped all non-blacks into one group because its easiest when looking at data sets.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 21, 2022, 06:15:24 AM »


Congratulations.  You just saw a news report on test data.  You know, data used to ensure that a system works properly?
All those values are invalid. 

And none should be in the live system.  Of course they never state its in the live system or if partition 1 is live data or test data.

But still, good job Tom.  Your detective skills are truely Keystone material.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset: Aftermath
« on: January 19, 2022, 06:15:58 AM »
I'm not doing anything to prepare.

If the world elites really wanted to put their resources into making us dead they could simply put the poison into existing drugs without our knowledge, into our food, into the water, or perhaps the air, and manipulate the governments to ignore it. It could all be done in a less visible and more underhanded way. It is possible that they are doing this as well; but I tend to believe that our rulers are cruel, yet benevolent, and make it possible for you to choose your own fate. If you want to smoke, the information is available to you and you are allowed know the risks to the best of humanity's ability to determine it. That is your choice to make.

Clearly, in a cull, you don't kill everything, and want the best to survive. If this is some sort of cull, Covid vaccination is a test of intelligence, to which people may escape the propaganda and media hype by simply not taking the vaccines. While there is some social media censoring on a private level, there is no governmental legal effort going into eliminating the voice or research of the vaccine critics, even though not all countries have strong freedom of speech laws. The information is out there and circulating, available for people to decide for themselves. The situation is that you knew it was rushed and experimental, you knew there might be risk and that it involved novel genetic manipulation methods, but you did it anyway based on hype and fear mongering, so any injury you get is your own fault by design.

The Covid vaccines will never be truly mandated and enforced by the government, as they are doing it through illegal decree, and will always get swatted down by the court systems at the last moment. They could do it the proper legal way through the legal process if they wanted to but it's generally not attempted. In the US the Whitehouse is pushing vaccination by executive decree, while Congress is not making much effort to do it via law (on purpose, IMO).

Per breakdown of the economy, society is set up in a way in which it is too big to fail, so it won't. The central banks will always step in to bail out the banks, erase debt, radically transform the conceptual nature of currency if necessary, as they already have done to the dollar over the years. The existence of the police and the military and intelligence agencies prevents the possibility of any real violent revolution; making it unlikely to be attempted. People don't rebel against their government unless they feel that they have no other choice, and so the government will try to keep it hot but not boiling.

The vaccine deaths and vaccine enforcement and pressure will, therefore, be kept to a level people can accept but not rebel over. They may also be trying to distract you with high inflation; to pacify your attention towards improving your monetary situation instead of thinking too much about the government's tyranny. Probably not a coincidence. Duplicitous governments tend to trick, distract, and finally adapt to an allowable level to please the populous once it has pushed things to the limit, preventing mass conflict. In the end we may be conditioned into accepting the vaccines and vaccine deaths as an acceptable part of our lives, like we accept smoking and the many smoking deaths. No happy ending. No mass rebellion. They are simply too smart to allow that to happen.

So what you're saying is that 'The Great Reset' isn't real and this is a test to see who will not blindly follow experts and government recomendations?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset: Aftermath
« on: January 18, 2022, 07:03:34 PM »
Hey guys?
This isn't another covid thread.
This is a 'what are you gonna do if your conspiracy theory is correct.'

Even Tom avoided answering, which I find concerning.  It means not even he, the loudest voice here, has any plan or has even given it any thought.  As though he knows its never going to happen....

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / The Great Reset: Aftermath
« on: January 18, 2022, 06:11:10 AM »
There are far too many people who believe that "the elites" have designed the corona vaccine to kill everyone.  Only 100 million people worldwide will survive, but only as slaves to the elites.  Something about having better control over the world, the why is kinda vague.


Anyway, the question becomes: what are the anti-vaxxers and people who believe this doing to prepare?
Because lets face it, if you believe this then you MUST be preparing for the aftermath.
The news showing people dying suddenly.  First a few thousand a day, then millions a day.  The riots as people realize the vaccine is genocide.  The angry mobs as they tear through anyone.  Doctors as they try in vein to find a cure.  Basic services and utilities failing due to lack of people.  Bodies in the streets and homes with no one to collect them as they fall.  Governments collapsing.

And finally... You.  Alone or maybe with your family, surrounded by death.
Could you survive?  How would you fight the death squads and chemical weapons that the elites will use to wipe out the resistance?  Do you have a gas mask?  Guns?  Training in wilderness survival?


What do you all think?  Think these people are actually preparing or just bitching, hoping they don't need to worry about where to buy food in 5 years?

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