How about you read the FAQ, and then ask why no one can be bothered to answer your question?
How about you read the FAQ, and then ask why no one can be bothered to answer your question?I did. It says nothing about this in the FAQ, so I looked in the Wiki. Big surprise! Nothing about it. So, that being said, how can 24 hour sun in Antarctica be possible on a flat earth?
How about you read the FAQ, and then ask why no one can be bothered to answer your question?
QuoteHow about you read the FAQ, and then ask why no one can be bothered to answer your question?
I cannot see anything that explicitly addresses this in the FAQ page either. Indirectly though and related to this question, the FAQ page does show an animation of the Sun circling over a flat Earth. The extent of the daylight area due to the Sun does reach the circumference (or edge) of the flat Earth circular surface. That would mean the Antarctic is in daylight for 24 hours. As the Sun moves back north (radius of solar orbiting circle decreases) so the Antarctic region would be placed into 24 hour night. That corresponds to southern hemisphere winter.
What the animation does not account for though is the variation in the Suns altitude during a 24 hour period near for example the December solstice. In the animation the Sun follows a circular path and so its distance from the 'edge' of the flat Earth is constant. To an observer in Antarctica or near the SP region, that would mean they would see the Sun circle the horizon at constant altitude. That is not what is observed in reality. Perhaps there is another FE model which does account for this variation in solar altitude during a 24 hour period?
The biggest challenge here is making the model of the FE as it stands accurately reflect real world experience. I agree that if you call Antarctica the entire circumference of a flat disk then quite simply the Sun as it is shown on the FE model cannot be and will not be visible continuously over a 24 hr period from any one point on the circumference.This is one of the things that the Bi-Polar Model approaches at least better. https://wiki.tfes.org/Bi-Polar_Model It has other issues, but provides Antarctica as its own continent and allows for the possibility of a 24-hour daylight period for both North and South pole areas.
I have read posts by FE believers which state that because of that they don't beleive that the Sun can be visible over the horizon continously for 24 hours and therefore any photos/videos that show that to be the case are wrong or have been faked. How about the other possibility that the FE model is wrong?
Lots of people have been to the Antarctic region now, many of whom have no interest whatsoever in FE theories and will confirm without a moment hesitation that the Sun never sets over Antarctica on and around the December solstice.
One of the FE models is that of a disk with two poles, also known as "Antarctica as a Continent" model. This better explains seasons, especially that of the areas south of the equator, but it, too, has an interesting problem.
That problem is this: during the southern summer many places north of the equator should see a very discernible backtracking of the sun. The sun has always been observed to rise in the east and make a steady westward progression until it sets (unless, of course, you're in one of those places during one of those times that the sun never sets).
The Bi-polar model clearly indicates otherwise. The to-scale diagram below is for the equinox, when the sun shifts 'gears' from the north pole to the south pole. The indicated angles around the point of observation are for bearings (away from north) for each position of the sun (except E, which is the point at which the sun 'switches gears').
From when the sun rises to Point R, the bearing of the sun is constantly increasing, as you can see. However, at Point R the sun switches direction and heads eastward until it sets. At the most it's only a few degrees, but at the very least it's unnoticeable.
However, the distance the sun travels in that time, from Point R to setting, is enough to take hours--2 hours and 47 minutes in my case--in which the sun would appear to not be moving across the sky.
I, living here a few years now, have never experienced such a thing--either the sun stopping nearly 3 hours before sunset or it backtracking for nearly 3 hours before sunset. Since this model is so far off observations, it can be safely thrown into the garbage.(http://i.imgur.com/dRnghWW.png)
P.S. Also, if sunsets and sunrises are caused, as FE claims, by distance to and from the sun, then it should be noted that the distance between me and the sunrise and the distance between me and the sunset (indicated by the red and blue dotted circles respectively) differ by 69.2% of the distance between the equator and the north pole
==Eastward Sunrise==
Q. How the sun can rise from near the east under this configuration?
A. An answer to this query may be that it is similar to its operation in the standard Monopole model. When we observe the sun, we are observing its projection upon the atmolayer. The sun which is seen is local and individual to each observer. Accordingly, the easterly sunrise is a consequence of the following:
- The points along the edges of the sun's circular area of light are sunrise (or sunset).
- Our vision is very limited. One cannot see infinitely into the distance.
- The edge of the sun's circular area of light is approaching the observer from the Eastward from his or her position.
Sunrise will occur from an Eastward direction as a natural consequence of the observer's limited range of vision. The sun's circular area of light generally intersects the observer's area of vision from an Eastward direction. During Equinox the sun's circular area of light is pivoting around the Northern and Southern poles in a figure eight. The points along the edge of the sun's area of light are close to traveling along the observer's latitude line as it intersects the observer's viewing area, even if the sun is not, and will intersect and appear from near the East in initial bearing.
If a cloud were traveling along the circle of your latitude line, and you only see it when it is close to you, would you see it appear from the east or near the east? The same explanation for this occurrence is given for the local sun and the manifestation of its initial Eastward bearing. The points along the edge of sun's area of light are projections of the sun which will appear to the observer once in his or her viewing range.
For additional details see: https://wiki.tfes.org/Equinox#A_Flat_Earth_Equinox
The Wiki has a section for the equinoxes:Quote==Eastward Sunrise==
Q. How the sun can rise from near the east under this configuration?
A. An answer to this query may be that it is similar to its operation in the standard Monopole model. When we observe the sun, we are observing its projection upon the atmolayer. The sun which is seen is local and individual to each observer. Accordingly, the easterly sunrise is a consequence of the following:
- The points along the edges of the sun's circular area of light are sunrise (or sunset).
- Our vision is very limited. One cannot see infinitely into the distance.
- The edge of the sun's circular area of light is approaching the observer from the Eastward from his or her position.
Sunrise will occur from an Eastward direction as a natural consequence of the observer's limited range of vision. The sun's circular area of light generally intersects the observer's area of vision from an Eastward direction. During Equinox the sun's circular area of light is pivoting around the Northern and Southern poles in a figure eight. The points along the edge of the sun's area of light are close to traveling along the observer's latitude line as it intersects the observer's viewing area, even if the sun is not, and will intersect and appear from near the East in initial bearing.
If a cloud were traveling along the circle of your latitude line, and you only see it when it is close to you, would you see it appear from the east or near the east? The same explanation for this occurrence is given for the local sun and the manifestation of its initial Eastward bearing. The points along the edge of sun's area of light are projections of the sun which will appear to the observer once in his or her viewing range.
For additional details see: https://wiki.tfes.org/Equinox#A_Flat_Earth_Equinox
If 24 hours of sun above the horizon during the summer solstice in Antarctica is a real phenomenon one wonders why the only available video of the event depicts what looks suspiciously like the sun was cut and pasted on the video, what with the completely static rays of light.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgZa9oZDN5g
If 24 hours of sun above the horizon during the summer solstice in Antarctica is a real phenomenon one wonders why the only available video of the event depicts what looks suspiciously like the sun was cut and pasted on the video, what with the completely static rays of light.
Search for the book the Anti-Newtonian. Flat Earth Theory started with multiple poles and Rowbotham simplified it to one pole due to lack of evidence. Multiple poles have been been theorized for hundreds of years.
Search for the book the Anti-Newtonian. Flat Earth Theory started with multiple poles and Rowbotham simplified it to one pole due to lack of evidence. Multiple poles have been been theorized for hundreds of years.Quotes form your sources please, don't just say "go read this book".