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« Reply #12460 on: March 11, 2025, 05:02:55 AM »
People being allowed in the Capitol by Capitol police.

Thanks, LD.
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« Reply #12461 on: March 11, 2025, 06:39:48 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gdwgjkk1no

It’s almost like the economy is being run by someone who has had multiple failed businesses
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« Reply #12462 on: March 11, 2025, 07:12:18 AM »
People being allowed in the Capitol by Capitol police.

Thanks, LD.

Uhhh...

The conviction will get overturned on appeal.

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« Reply #12463 on: March 11, 2025, 03:46:25 PM »
Try reloading it.

Here is a couple of more.



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« Reply #12464 on: March 11, 2025, 06:30:23 PM »
Try reloading it.

Here is a couple of more.


 

First video, are they directing people in or out?  The flashing green lights generally invite visitors to enter the scanner, suggesting that CCTV is looking "downstream", into the sterile area, which would mean the cops are observing people leaving the premises (whatever, whenever, the premises are). 

Second video, the officers have quite obvious Wisconsin State Patrol patches.  Comments on YouTube identify the clip as being 12 years old, and Wisconsin State Capitol. 

Just sayin. 

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« Reply #12465 on: March 11, 2025, 08:09:30 PM »
Try reloading it.

Here is a couple of more.





Got the initial post now but the post he's linking doesn't exist anymore.  Man, Twitter is really shit.

And, as was said, the second video is not even the US capitol.  Like.. have you even seen the building?

The first is the Senate carriage room door.  Facing inside.
https://archive.org/details/bruno-cua-gx-110-0114-i-uscs-01-senate-carriage-door-2021-01-06-14h-52min-00s-000ms.h-264

That's the other end.  So the officer took a man who was already inside and escorted him to the exit.  So... How is that ushering him in?
https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18

Minute and a half.  You see the officer escort him to the area, fist bump, and he walks OUT.  Not IN.
Are you so desperate that you will believe anything?  Or is this your pathetic attempt to lie?
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« Reply #12466 on: March 11, 2025, 08:55:12 PM »
Oh hey, the evil Ukraine is getting Aid again.

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/11/nx-s1-5324651/ukraine-us-saudi-arabia-talks-russia-war

That didn't take long.  I guess Trump got what he wanted.
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« Reply #12467 on: March 12, 2025, 11:29:38 AM »
Yeah, the second video is incorrect.

My apologies.

I'll find the one where the lady lawyer that was going to give her speech outside on the steps, but was told, along with others to go inside instead...

Not to mention all the others that were roaming around inside that did not "break in," but were being escorted by Capitol police.

Meanwhile, you can look at this one, if you like, with video of "violent protestors," on J6, strolling through the halls of the Capitol, waiving at Capitol Police:



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« Reply #12468 on: March 12, 2025, 05:22:27 PM »
Yeah, the second video is incorrect.

My apologies.

I'll find the one where the lady lawyer that was going to give her speech outside on the steps, but was told, along with others to go inside instead...

Not to mention all the others that were roaming around inside that did not "break in," but were being escorted by Capitol police.

Meanwhile, you can look at this one, if you like, with video of "violent protestors," on J6, strolling through the halls of the Capitol, waiving at Capitol Police:



Aaaahhh ,someone still hasn't learned.

That video is from the House Wing Door.  At about 15.12
https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18
(Three .minutes in)
They were being escorted OUT.
And if you knew your timeline...
Rioters entered at about 14.10 and the fatal shooting was at 14.40.  it was was downhill from there and people were being escorted out by 15.00.

So to prove they were escorted in, you'll have to find video showing that from about 14.00, not 15.00
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« Reply #12469 on: March 12, 2025, 06:06:06 PM »
Yeah, I am searching for it.

There was a lady lawyer that was supposed to give a speech on the Capitol steps but the Capitol police ushered her and many others through the doors instead. She gave her speech in the Rotunda.
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« Reply #12470 on: March 12, 2025, 07:20:35 PM »
Yeah, I am searching for it.

There was a lady lawyer that was supposed to give a speech on the Capitol steps but the Capitol police ushered her and many others through the doors instead. She gave her speech in the Rotunda.
I haven't found her either.  Who was she?  What was her speech about? 
And even if they did usher her and some people in, that still doesn't explain the people who broke through police barricades and broke windows to get in.
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« Reply #12471 on: March 13, 2025, 10:07:42 AM »
You are correct. The explanation for the ones that were tearing things up and committing other acts of lawlessness on J6 is that they were government agents.
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« Reply #12472 on: March 13, 2025, 10:20:12 AM »
You are correct. The explanation for the ones that were tearing things up and committing other acts of lawlessness on J6 is that they were government agents.

Don't you find it odd that 3 videos have been proven as lies.  You believed them.  And now, you still believe the same people who lied to you, that they could correctly ID federal agents from a video.  People who couldn't even ID what the State Capitol looks like or when a video was taken.
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« Reply #12473 on: March 13, 2025, 12:29:50 PM »
I posted a video from the Wisconsin Capitol that was mislabeled on Youtube. The other videos I posted are not lies.

I know you like to think they are, but they are not. As seen in one of the videos, people were walking the halls of the Capitol, even waving at Capitol Police.

They were labeled lies by liars.

The FBI has admitted and has been proven to have agent provocateurs in place during J6.
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« Reply #12474 on: March 13, 2025, 12:37:25 PM »
I posted a video from the Wisconsin Capitol that was mislabeled on Youtube. The other videos I posted are not lies.

I know you like to think they are, but they are not. As seen in one of the videos, people were walking the halls of the Capitol, even waving at Capitol Police.

They were labeled lies by liars.

The FBI has admitted and has been proven to have agent provocateurs in place during J6.
But every single one of those videos were taken well after they were inside and were, I fact, leaving.  For them to be entering, they'd have to be going further in, not towards the exit, if you ignore the timestamp.

Hell, the first video you posted of the handcuffed guy?  Being taken to the exit from inside, not from the exit in.  How can you say that's not a lie when the video is labeled as 'cop escorts man into capitol's?
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« Reply #12475 on: March 13, 2025, 01:10:34 PM »
The video title states: "Capitol Police escort "violent insurgent," into the Capitol, unhandcuff him and exchange fist bump.

The title is not a lie.

That is exactly what happens in the video.
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« Reply #12476 on: March 13, 2025, 01:15:51 PM »
The video title states: "Capitol Police escort "violent insurgent," into the Capitol, unhandcuff him and exchange fist bump.

The title is not a lie.

That is exactly what happens in the video.
But he does not.  He is escorting him out.  They came from inside and walked to the exit.  You know that's the exit door they were in front of, yes? (The one offncamera)

But let's say for the sake of your delusion that you're correct.

Are you telling me that the police grab a random person from outside, handcuff them, bring them inside, then uncuff them and get the next person?  And do that hundreds of times?
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« Reply #12477 on: March 13, 2025, 04:12:20 PM »
Let's say your characterization of me being delusional is an asshatted comment, okay?

If the Capitol Police were intent on arresting the "violent insurrectionist," why would they take the handcuffs off?

I still have the video on XTwitter, clearly showing the doors to the US Capitol were opened by Capitol Police, who then allowed J6 attendees inside the Capitol.

You ask no examing questions of your own thought process in this matter, as you have the "party line," to stick to, come hell or high water.

Dr. (Not a lawyer, I was incorrect) Simone Gold's interview with Jordan Peterson.

She states the doors were opened to the Capitol from the inside of the building at the place she entered.

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« Reply #12478 on: March 13, 2025, 05:21:49 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gdwgjkk1no

It’s almost like the economy is being run by someone who has had multiple failed businesses

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« Reply #12479 on: March 13, 2025, 07:01:05 PM »
Let's say your characterization of me being delusional is an asshatted comment, okay?

If the Capitol Police were intent on arresting the "violent insurrectionist," why would they take the handcuffs off?

You ask no examing questions of your own thought process in this matter, as you have the "party line," to stick to, come hell or high water.
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Oh I can answer that.  The man probably didn't wanna leave so had to be cuffed then, when at the exit, he became cooperative and willing to leave.  Given the lack of available containment, cuffing and booking hundreds of people on the spot wasn't an option.

Now.. why would he cuff him to bring him inside?

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Dr. (Not a lawyer, I was incorrect) Simone Gold's interview with Jordan Peterson.

She states the doors were opened to the Capitol from the inside of the building.



At what time?  Because once inside, the rioters opened alot of doors.


Ok, I looked it up for you.
It was after.  After they broke in (so after 14:10) she went in because people inside opened the door.
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