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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Earth is Round
« on: December 30, 2016, 12:05:56 AM »
Gravity intends to pull everything into a sphere like object

Scary! When?!!

Gravity has existed since 10^-43 Seconds after the big bang, and has caused matter to cluster into spherical stars and planets about 100 million years after the big bang.

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Flat Earth Theory / The Earth is Round
« on: December 29, 2016, 10:00:17 PM »
Here is the only needed evidence to prove that the earth is round:

1) Gravity exists | We can observer the gravity exists from the tides rising when the moon or sun is overhead. The gravity from the sun or moon will exert its gravitational pull on the water, causing the level of the water to rise.

2) Gravity intends to pull everything into a sphere like object (a spheroid) | Just look at any celestial body (eg. the moon). Any body with enough mass will intend to pull itself into a spheroid. The moon, sun, and every other planet is a spheroid because of their gravitational pull.

3) The earth is massive enough to be classified to be a planet | We can observe the affect of the earth's gravity on the moon, and you can calculate that the earth is roughly 6 time larger than the moon. If the moon has enough gravity to pull itself into a sphere, then the earth should have more than enough gravity to pull itself into a sphere.

In conclusion, because gravity exists and gravity will always attempt to pull a massive object (like the earth) into spheroid (just like every other object in the solar system), the earth is sphere shaped.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Flat Earth Theory Is WRONG!
« on: December 28, 2016, 01:49:11 AM »
"I think you're confusing coordinate acceleration and proper acceleration. The UA theory does have its flaws, but this isn't one of them."

Well, according to Einstein's Theory of Special Relativity, as an object approaches the speed of light, its mass becomes larger and larger. Therefore, in order for the object to continue to accelerate, the force applied must grow (f=ma, as the mass increases, so must the force).

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Flat Earth Theory Is WRONG!
« on: December 28, 2016, 01:03:50 AM »
"In response to #3, no, it wouldn't reach the speed of light. It would asymptotically approach the speed of light, but never reach it."

I left that out for simplicity, but yes you are right, it would approach the speed of light, and then the force of gravity would weaken, as the acceleration of the earth would slow down unless the force applied to the earth increased (which due to point 4, whould mean a spontaneous appearance of more dark energy).

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Flat Earth Theory / Flat Earth Theory Is WRONG!
« on: December 27, 2016, 10:42:15 PM »
Below are some of the major reasons that flat earth people believe in flat earth theory, and how they are wrong:

First, the flat earth model: a flat disk with the north pole at the center and the south pole as a wall of ice surrounding the disk.

1) The earth's horizon looks flat | really? just because it looks flat does not mean it is flat..... (there's a common saying: don't judge a book by its cover).

2) Satellite photos, and the moon landings were faked | this could be true, but because we cannot prove nor deny this, we cannot use this evidence to prove either point; round or flat earth.

3) Gravity does not exist, the earth is just acceleration upwards at 9.8 meters per second per second | while this may be true, if the earth were just accelerating upwards at 9.8 meters per second per second, it would have already reached the speed of light (it would have taken 354 days). If the earth were at or near the speed of light, we would not be able to see any stars near the wall of ice (south pole).

4) Earth accelerates upwards due to dark energy | dark energy does indeed accelerate things away from it, but if dark energy exists (a highly theoretical idea that hasn't been proven yet), why cant the basic force of gravity exist (a force known to man for 2000 years or more).

5) If the earth were a sphere, you could see the curvature | yes! you can see the curvature in some cases! however, the earth is not a perfect sphere, and is distorted by many factors, including buildings, mountains, and other things that stick up out of the ground that can cause it to be harder to see earth's curvature
Technical explanation: our eyes, and our brains, perceive two vertical things (such as buildings) as perpendicular. this causes our brain to perceive a piece of land with two buildings as flat because our brains thinks that the buildings are parallel, and the ground, which is perpendicular to both buildings as flat. However, this is just an optical illusion that is caused by your brain's tendency to assume things are parallel or perpendicular.

6) Both the Bible and the Quran says the earth is flat | while it is true that Job 38:14, Psalm 96:10, and Psalm 104:5 from the bible as well as Sura Al-Kahf (18:47), and Sura An-Naml (27:61) from the Quran claims the earth is flat, it is not. Remember that these books were written a very long time ago, during a time when western science has just been torched to the ground (yes, I'm talking about the fall of the greek city states), and was written about people who were considered radical and crazy at their times. I'm not saying that any religion is wrong, but to invoke religion into a matter of science is too medival aged.

This sums up my rant on why the earth is NOT flat.

Just remember, there is a million evidence that science provides as proof of a round earth. It may not always be right, but the fundamentals of our universe should never be forgotten.

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