After going through some forum pages over both models, I have seen a simple question come back to FEs without ever seeing a response. So I created an account to ask it myself. Here it is: FEs say that we can't see the sun rays at night on the flat earth because of the distance from it (the sun) to us (they say perspective, distance to vanishing point, atmosphere, etc..). That would be believable but one thing doesn't make it, why can I see the light from the stars that are further to us than the sun is (this is true for both models) when I can't see the light from sun because of it being too far? I have seen the question been asked multiple times but surprisingly, it has always been ignored. So I am making a thread just for a clear answer that makes sense. Please explain this to me. Thank you.