Yaakov ben Avraham

Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #140 on: September 18, 2014, 03:13:15 PM »
The Rothschilds? What? I wasn't referring to them, although you are right, they are Jewish. I was referring to the fact that Britain, starting in the 16th Century, built an Empire that ended up covering 1/3 of the world's surface and 1/4 of the world's people. They brought civilisation to a good portion of the planet. I mean, seriously, look at Africa. It was a shit-hole before the British got there, and its been a shit-hole ever since they left.

Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #141 on: September 18, 2014, 03:14:05 PM »
Most of the British population were in poverty during the Empire period.

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Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #142 on: September 18, 2014, 03:18:00 PM »
The empire was driven by Rothschild greed. They controlled the bank of England and therefore Britain.

"I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets the man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British empire and I control the British money supply" - Nathan Rothschild

And every war was at their behest. On her deathbed the mother of the 4 Rothschild brothers that controlled the banking in France, England, Germany and Austria respectively, said “If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.” - Gutle Schnaper Rothschild

"There is but one power in Europe and that is Rothschild." - 19th century French commentator.

Most wars are because Jews get rich out of them. Not because English people happen to be good at war.

Thork

Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #143 on: September 18, 2014, 03:20:14 PM »
Here is a nice quote
Quote from: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=4377
1891: The British Labour Leader makes the following statement on the subject of the Rothschilds, “This blood-sucking crew has been the cause of untold mischief and misery in Europe during the present century, and has piled up its prodigious wealth chiefly through fomenting wars between States which ought never to have quarrelled.

Whenever there is trouble in Europe, wherever rumours of war circulate and men’s minds are distraught with fear of change and calamity you may be sure that a hook-nosed Rothschild is at his games somewhere near the region of the disturbance.”

Comments like this worry the Rothschilds and towards the end of the 1800’s they purchase Reuters news agency so they can have some control of the media.

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Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #144 on: September 18, 2014, 03:25:10 PM »
That is true. In fact, it was the creation of Empire that got them OUT of poverty. The creation of a large British military, and a huge Imperial bureaucracy, and workers at home to maintain the building of all the equipment and provisions and so-forth that all this needed, basically kept Britain running. If it hadn't been for Empire, Britain probably would have ground completely to a halt.

Methinks the man protesteth too much. The power of the Rothschilds is so overblown it is completely stupid. Jews don't get rich off wars. In fact, very few Jews are bankers. Psychiatrists, yes. Attorneys, yes. Bankers no. And France has always been rather anti-Semitic, so the commentator's remark means very little. In fact, when countries go to war, if those countries contain Jews, we have to worry, not about our pocketbooks, but about whether we will be accused of what you say and be taken out and shot.

Notice that the quote you posted contains the blatantly anti-Semitic remark about being "hook-nosed". If he quote had any validity to it at all, such a comment would be unnecessary. The quote could stand on its own without the ad hom.

Thork

Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #145 on: September 18, 2014, 03:34:04 PM »
That quote was made in the houses of parliament and the MP would be protected by parliamentary privilege. IE - he CAN speak his mind without fear of Rothschild reprisal. And they did have dreadful hook noses brought on by inbreeding. They tried to preserve their wealth by marrying cousins with comedic results. Jews love money more than they love a healthy gene pool, hence so many Jew specific genetic diseases.

God doesn't settle debts with money. ;)

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Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #146 on: September 18, 2014, 03:37:55 PM »
The Rothschilds? What? I wasn't referring to them, although you are right, they are Jewish. I was referring to the fact that Britain, starting in the 16th Century, built an Empire that ended up covering 1/3 of the world's surface and 1/4 of the world's people. They brought civilisation to a good portion of the planet. I mean, seriously, look at Africa. It was a shit-hole before the British got there, and its been a shit-hole ever since they left.

Africa was really a pretty decent place before the Europeans got involved. I mean, it was certainly primitive, I'd argue that Europe did nothing but damage to Africa.
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Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #147 on: September 18, 2014, 03:43:52 PM »
THORK, you really are as stupid as you look. Not all Jews have money. Have you ever seen "Fiddler on the Roof"? That is how most Jews lived like in pre-WWII Europe. They lived in shtetls like that one, little towns where they were permitted to live by Gentile governments. They were not permitted to marry non-Jews, by either our religion, OR by Gentile governments. Both non-Jews and Jews forbade the practice.

The intermarriage of Ashkenazi Jews did cause some genetic diseases to be more common within that group, there is no denying that, but it doesn't have a higher incidence rate among weathy Jews vs poor Jews. God, you ARE a fucktard.

Thork

Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #148 on: September 18, 2014, 03:44:08 PM »
The Rothschilds? What? I wasn't referring to them, although you are right, they are Jewish. I was referring to the fact that Britain, starting in the 16th Century, built an Empire that ended up covering 1/3 of the world's surface and 1/4 of the world's people. They brought civilisation to a good portion of the planet. I mean, seriously, look at Africa. It was a shit-hole before the British got there, and its been a shit-hole ever since they left.

Africa was really a pretty decent place before the Europeans got involved. I mean, it was certainly primitive, I'd argue that Europe did nothing but damage to Africa.
When Christian missionaries arrived in Africa, they couldn't believe that the Africans would spend all day bumming each other in broad daylight in the streets. This was the sign from God that these disgusting people needed some serious God in their lives.

Thork

Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #149 on: September 18, 2014, 03:46:12 PM »
THORK, you really are as stupid as you look. Not all Jews have money. Have you ever seen "Fiddler on the Roof"? That is how most Jews lived like in pre-WWII Europe. They lived in shtetls like that one, little towns where they were permitted to live by Gentile governments. They were not permitted to marry non-Jews, by either our religion, OR by Gentile governments. Both non-Jews and Jews forbade the practice.

The intermarriage of Ashkenazi Jews did cause some genetic diseases to be more common within that group, there is no denying that, but it doesn't have a higher incidence rate among weathy Jews vs poor Jews. God, you ARE a fucktard.
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Yaakov ben Avraham

Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #150 on: September 18, 2014, 03:47:01 PM »
Since I don't have the genetic indicators for it, that was just a stupid remark. Again, you are a fucktard.

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Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #151 on: September 18, 2014, 03:49:30 PM »
I don't see how a single Jewish family, regardless of their intent, is responsible or representative of all Jewish families?  ???
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Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #152 on: September 18, 2014, 03:58:27 PM »
LEMON, they're not. But THORK is a fucktard. I mean, like I said, the majority of Jews lived in shetls and were lower middle class to poor peasants. VERY few have ever been bankers. The few that were and are have always been damned good at it, that is true. Jews have always prized education. When 95% of Europe was illiterate, every Jewish male could at least read Hebrew (and often Yiddish), and sometimes the language of the nation where he lived. That is why monarchs and other ranking government officials sometimes chose Jews to conduct business, simply because they could read, and because they could interact with other Jews living in other countries, and even living in Muslim lands, who were doing the same thing for their leaders.

But again, very few Jews have been bankers. Psychiatrists, yes. Scientists? Doctors? Attorneys? All true. But bankers? Not so much.

Thork

Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #153 on: September 18, 2014, 04:01:13 PM »
I don't see how a single Jewish family, regardless of their intent, is responsible or representative of all Jewish families?  ???
Usury is a Jewish sin. Something they have a monopoly of and have done for hundreds of years. It is why there are so many Jewish families in the banking industry, despite Yaakov's claim to the contrary. Crone's disease probably effects his perception.

Adding to my little bit of African history, when the missionaries first found Africans (not the smart variety in the north descended from the likes of the Egyptians or Carthaginians who have been trading and breeding with Europeans, those chopped off by the Sahara - the jungle bunnies)  they weren't even sure if they were human. They had to ask scientists to come in and say whether or not they were monkeys and if we could eat them. That's how primitive they were. Apparently the constant bumming was revolting and they did it much like dogs do, to show their dominance over one another.

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Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #154 on: September 18, 2014, 04:17:09 PM »
THORK, again, you are a fucktard.

QUOTE from Rational Wiki: "20th century claims of Jewish conspiracy
Modern anti-Semitic conspiracy theories depicting an elaborate secret hierarchy of controlling Jewish influences largely take their cue from The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, a 1903 tract purporting to be the manual of a Jewish secret society planning world domination. It was widely circulated in the early 20th century and exposed as a fraud as early as 1921.
Automobile manufacturer Henry Ford further popularized the conspiracy during the 1920s by publishing the Protocols and anti-Semitic articles in his newspaper, The Dearborn Independent, and distributing hundreds of thousands of copies of the Protocols. Ford's anti-Semitic articles were later collected and published as a four-volume treatise entitled The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem.[2]
Ford's enthusiastic endorsement of an international Jewish conspiracy proved extremely popular in Weimar-era Germany. Ford provided substantial financial backing to Adolf Hitler in the 1920's and his writings were a significant influence on the formation of the Nazi party and its grassroots support. By 1933, when the Nazi Party came to power in Germany, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion was standard reading in German schools. Hitler admired Henry Ford and even emulated him by creating his own automobile, the Volkswagen. Hitler further propagated the Jewish conspiracy in Mein Kampf and other propaganda blaming Jews for the rise of both communism and capitalism, and for Germany's economic decline following the First World War.
Spanish fascist dictator Francisco Franco similarly believed in a conspiracy of Jews, Freemasons and communists intending to establish a world government. He often made reference to a vast "Judeo-Masonic conspiracy."[3]
[edit]Millenarian anti-Semites
Fundamentalist Christians of an anti-Semitic bent have promoted theories that intermingle the End Times with a worldwide Jewish conspiracy where the anti-Christ is believed to be a Jew. Perhaps the most popular promoter of this lunacy was Nazi sympathizer Gordon Winrod.[4] Winrod explained this brand of the conspiracy thusly:
“”A Jewish Antichrist in the end of this age, pre-supposes an international system of Jewish government. There can be little doubt that such a system, based upon the Jewish Money Power, has already been created -- and is ready to step into the open and assume control of world affairs as soon as the time is ripe.[5]
[edit]Modern variations

After the pwning of Nazi Germany, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, along with anti-Semitism itself, have become increasingly marginalized. However, the myth of an international Jewish conspiracy remains common among right-wing conspiracy theorists, Neo-Nazis, some hardline communists, black supremacists and other racist lunatics, and has been further perpetuated in recent years by these lunatics' rantings through the ease posting of the Internet.
This canard is also common in parts of the Islamic world, especially among Palestinian resistance movements. For example, the founding charter of Hamas asserts the existence of a Zionist conspiracy, working internationally through secret organizations such as the Freemasons as well as the government of Israel, and cites the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as the embodiment of their plans.[6]
Anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists often focus on Zionism and the founding of Israel, or on denying the existence or scale of the Holocaust and claiming it is a myth fabricated or exaggerated to serve Jewish interests. Believers in an international conspiracy often claim that Jews are secretly running the United States government in collaboration with Israel. They point to examples of wealthy Jews in the financial sector and other industries (the Rothschild family regularly appears in these theories), and to the apparently disproportionate numbers of Jews involved in the movie industry in Hollywood.
If it is even true that Jews are disproportionately represented in business, one must be careful to note that correlation does not equal causation. In the Western world until the 19th century, the largely Christian populations obeyed a religiously-motivated prohibition on charging interest on loans, with the role of banker historically falling on Jewish businessmen who were sometimes even specifically licensed by sovereigns to charge interest. To assume that the disproportionate number of Jews involved in finance proves they're engaging in a Zionist conspiracy through manipulation of capitalism is to ignore the historic role of Jews in banking due to the Christian prohibition against usury.
Individual theories vary widely. Many claim that "international Jewry" is in control of the Freemasons, Illuminati, and other real or perceived secret societies. Often the international Jewish conspiracy is portrayed as an active part of, or the major power behind, that greatest of all conspiracies, the New World Order.
Various anti-Semitic 9/11 conspiracy theories sprang up in the wake of the 9/11 attacks claiming that a Jewish or Israeli conspiracy was behind the attacks, or that the whole incident was faked in order to serve Jewish and Zionist interests. A common myth, spread by racist websites and chain emails, is that hundreds or even thousands of Jewish employees in the World Trade Center were forewarned of the attacks missed work on September 11th 2001.
Variations on these conspiracies that may not appear overtly anti-Semitic often have a latent anti-Semitism about them as the words "Illuminati," "New World Order," "international bankers," "international monetary elite" and "financiers" are Mad Libbed in for "Jews" and "international Jewry."
Much as many religious fundamentalists often use "Goddidit" to explain that which they cannot explain, conspiracy theorists will often use "Jewsdidit.""

QUOTE from Wikipedia: "Antisemitic conspiracy theories[edit]
Antisemitism has, from the Middle Ages, frequently taken on characteristics of conspiracy theory. Antisemitic canards continue to circulate. In medieval Europe it was widely believed that Jews poisoned wells, had killed Jesus, and consumed the blood of Christians in their rituals (despite the fact that human and animal blood are not kosher).

In the second half of the 19th century conspiracists claimed that Jews and/or Freemasons were plotting to establish control over the world. The best-known text alleging the existence of this Judeo-Masonic conspiracy theory is The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. A more modern manifestation of such ideas is the theory of a Zionist Occupation Government.

Various conspiracy theories have been advanced regarding Jews and banking,[1] including the theory that world banking is dominated by the Rothschild family,[2] that Jews control Wall Street,[2] and that Jews control the U.S. Federal Reserve System.[3] A related theory is that Jews control Hollywood or the news media.[4][5]

Most Holocaust denial claims imply, or openly state, that the Holocaust is a hoax arising out of a deliberate Jewish conspiracy to advance the interest of Jews at the expense of other peoples,[6] and to justify the creation of the State of Israel. For this reason, Holocaust denial is considered to be an antisemitic[7] conspiracy theory.[8]"

So there you go. Thork, you are a fucktard.

Yaakov ben Avraham

Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #155 on: September 18, 2014, 04:17:59 PM »
QUOTE from Abraham Foxman of the ADL: "   
Blaming the Jews: The Financial Crisis and Anti-Semitism

Posted: November 13, 2008


Remarks by Abraham H. Foxman
National Director, Anti-Defamation League
Annual Meeting
Los Angeles, CA, November 13, 2008


Jews and Money:  the dirty little secret of anti-Semitism is no secret.  It has been a major factor fueling Jew hatred for hundreds of years, certainly since the Middle Ages.  It is the perception of non-Jews that we who are Jews have extraordinary claims on money.  We magically know how to earn it, to spend it, to make interest off of it, to wheedle it out of Gentiles, and to control international markets with no consideration for the welfare of our native homelands because international Jewry crosses all borders and works exclusively for its own benefit.  There is nothing we will not do to gain money, nor is there any amount too small for a Jew to wish to lay claim to it.  Around the world there is a view that all Jews are rich, and it is a belief so widespread in some countries and communities that no amount of counter-evidence can force a reassessment of its self-evident "truth."  In fact, not only are Jews rich, but we are cheap, and it is because no amount of money is too small for us to grasp that we are able to amass our fortunes.

I say all of this because in a moment of financial crisis such as we are living through today, the old canard rises like a Phoenix.  The good news is that we don't see it being used in mainstream media as an explanation for the current financial meltdown.  The bad news is that remarks and rumors about the pernicious influence of Jews on Wall Street are being broadcast on Internet comment boards and blogs and the usual anti-Semitic Web sites that thrive on conspiratorial Jew-hate.  But while we may take some comfort in seeing the problem limited to extremist margins, its ability to spread like a virus through the World Wide Web puts us on alert.  And on the Web, rumor often becomes "fact" in some people's minds and can threaten to go mainstream.

To give you a good idea of what I'm talking about, here is a small sampling of comments we've found out there in the digital world in the wake of the recent bank failures and the government bailout.  If you'll look at the screen now, we will show some of the comments appearing on the finance message boards of Yahoo.com:

•  What is a GS Jew?  Goldman Sachs?  Jews are greedy, rotten slime balls

• … the same Jewish bankers have been robbing us in this same manner for nearly an entire century now

•  They [Jews] love money nothing else, no faith or religion can be so heartless to their victims

And here, on the screen, are some anti-Semitic images that have appeared on Internet blogs, hate sites and in the Arab media.

A widely circulated rumor on the Internet has suggested that just prior to the collapse of Lehman Brothers and other major investment banks, "$400 billion in funds was secretly transferred to Israeli banks."  Although the story had no basis in fact, it traded in the same kind of conspiracy theory that emerged after the 9/11 terrorist attacks when it was claimed that "4,000 Jews" did not report to work at the World Trade Center that day because they had been given advance warning by the Israeli government.

And although no respectable American leader would engage, at least publicly, in expressing these sorts of stereotypes, or in scapegoating Jews for what has already been called the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, the international scene is different and less comforting.  We find similar commentary, for example, in the Middle East where Jew-hate has become a cottage industry.  If the Arab media is not in the least squeamish about portraying Israeli Jews as hook-nosed Hasidim plotting the blood-drenched destruction of the Palestinian people, or making callous and wholly unwarranted comparisons of Zionism to Nazism, then we can hardly be surprised when political leaders in the region seek political advantage by engaging in overtly anti-Semitic stereotyping in the midst of a worldwide financial catastrophe.

Just a few weeks ago, for example, Hamas spokesman, Fawzi Barhum, blamed what he called the "Jewish lobby" for the global financial crisis.  He went on to say it "controls the U.S. elections and defines the foreign policy of any new administration in a manner that allows it to retain control of the American government and economy."

Perhaps not to be outdone, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, in another of his public incitements against the State of Israel, included these remarks about Zionists:  "Although they are a miniscule minority, they have been dominating an important portion of the financial and monetary centers as well as the political decision making centers of some European countries and the US in a deceitful, complex and furtive manner."

I need hardly remind you that characterizations of "furtive" but all powerful Jewish cabals manipulating financial markets and governments bear the stamp of that classic in paranoid, racist literature, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, contrived by the Czarist secret police around the turn of the previous century.  Although thoroughly discredited as a forgery, it purports to be an account of the secret plans of Jewish leaders seeking to attain world domination in the last years of the nineteenth century.  However, the document is still being used to stir up anti-Semitic hatred. It has taken root in bigoted, frightened minds around the world.
 
The Protocols have become a major source of Arab and Islamic propaganda. Between 1965 and 1967 alone, approximately 50 books on political subjects published in Arabic were either based on the Protocols or quoted from them. In 1980, the Jordanian delegate to the United Nations, spoke about the Protocols as a genuine document. In October of 1987 the Iranian Embassy in Brazil circulated copies of the Protocols, which it said "belongs to the history of the world."  Arab television has run a series based on the idea that the infamous document is a genuine revelation of Jewish attempts to take over the world.  It is the lie that never dies.

But the Protocols are only one in a long line of representations of "the Jew" as one who has a particular relation to money and a secret power that he shares with his brethren.  A quick run-down of earlier precedents – both historical and cultural representations – reminds us that the foundations for the myth of the all-powerful Jewish financial wizard are deeply embedded in world psychology.  So, we have:

• The Medieval Jew, forced by historical circumstance to alone act as moneylender to his Christian neighbor who was not permitted to engage in lending money at interest.  Trade and other occupations were closed to Jews.   This economic dynamic created resentment toward the Jew who already lived as a figure apart from Christian society.

• Shakespeare's Shylock became an enduring image of the venal Jew who would demand his pound of Christian flesh

• Court-Jews throughout the German principalities supplied kings and princes with the credit they required to cover their personal extravagances and their political wars

• Dickens's Fagin, leader of a gang of boy-thieves, became another enduring fictional image of the Jew as greedy and amoral, beyond the realm of Christian rectitude

• The emergence in European capitals of the five sons of Meyer Amschel Rothschild as banking magnates cemented an image of Jewish control of the international levers of finance; it did not matter to the world that Meyer Amschel, who became a Court-Jew by dint of his own industry, had grown up in the closed Jewish ghetto of Frankfurt where every aspect of daily life was under strict control.

These are just a few of the precedents to the Protocols that became embedded in the psyche of the non-Jewish world and formed the fixed image of the Jew as an amoral financial manipulator as if by genetic predisposition.  In other words, we're born that way!  It's like inheriting a disease for which there is no cure.  Nineteenth century literature was littered with Jewish characters whose most prominent personality trait was their greed, though some authors expressed a grudging admiration for the application of intelligence which enabled their Jewish characters to thrive and rise in society.

And unfortunately, ADL finds time and again that contemporary attitudes about Jews, at least within significant percentages of the population both here in America and abroad, are resistant to change.  In our last survey of six European countries conducted in spring 2007, high percentages still believe in the traditional anti-Jewish canard that "Jews have too much power in the business world."  Overall, nearly 35% of all respondents believe this stereotype to be true.  In Hungary, it is 60%.

Similarly, European respondents to the survey still believe in the idea that "Jews have too much power in international financial markets."  Overall, 35% of those surveyed cling to the traditional stereotype; in Hungary, it is 61%.

This is obviously disturbing, for such attitudes persist despite the fact that individual governments and the European Union have condemned anti-Semitism and sought ways to counteract it.  And a recent report by the Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project confirms ADL's overall analysis, indicating a doubling of anti-Jewish views in Spain, for example, from 21% to 46% in just the past three years, and a rebound in anti-Jewish sentiment in Poland, to 36% from 27% in 2005, and in Russia, to 34% from 26% in the same year.

The situation in America is decidedly better, but by no means perfect.  Here, stereotypes about "Jewish power" have replaced many of the classical ethnic stereotypes that used to be attributed to Jewish Americans, especially in the day when largely Ashkenazic Jewish immigrant populations, impoverished, lived in crowded urban slums and did piece-work in tenement apartments or were itinerant street vendors.  In those days, aside from the exceptional and more assimilated German Jews of "Our Crowd," the image of the lower working-class Jew – families adhering to strange religious rituals or condemned to the squalor of urban poverty – prevented Jews from easy integration into American society and its institutions.

Today, on the contrary, based on a survey in October 2007, we find a persistent 15% of Americans believe that Jews have "too much power in the U.S." and 20% believe that we have "too much power in the business world."  Even before the current crisis, a year ago, 18% believed that Jews have "too much control/influence on Wall Street" – so we can easily imagine that from these overlapping percentages emerge the kinds of Internet slanders that today tar the entire Jewish community.

Of course like all stereotypes, people predisposed to believe in them seek out only the examples that support their bias, completely disregarding counter-examples.  The nefarious banker is always a Rothschild, never a J.P. Morgan or a Rockefeller.   So when a long-established and well-respected Wall Street firm like Lehman Brothers fails and the financial markets quake, the anti-Semite pounces and latent anti-Semitism awakens:  Aha!  A Jewish firm! It's always the Jews!
 
Never mind that Wall Street was once the fortress of Anglo-Saxon Protestant America that has over recent decades accepted into its ranks a widely diverse population of financial go-getters at all levels, including American Jews, African-Americans, Irish and Italian Americans, Latino-Americans and, in vastly increased numbers, women.

It seems practically impossible to disabuse the 15%-20% of Americans and nearly 40% of Europeans of their entrenched ideas that associate Jews – and Jews only -- with financial savvy and success, so-called sharp dealing, and financial conspiracies from which Jews – and Jews only – emerge victorious.  Besides, anti-Semitism, like most racism, is not rational.  If Jews are not hated for being rich, then we're hated for being communists … or, nearly as bad, we are despised for being bleeding heart liberals!

To have to point out that many a corporate titan or Wall Street financier who profited handily during the recent bubble was not Jewish is to find oneself both stating the obvious and engaging in a childish exercise.  Besides, it doesn't impress the committed anti-Semite who perhaps learns in childhood, at ground level, the truly odious use of the word Jew as a verb, as in "The shopkeeper 'jewed' me down."
 
That many American Jews also now fear for their pension funds or the possibility of foreclosure on their homes escapes the anti-Semitic imagination.  That Jewish social services agencies that feed the hungry, comfort the afflicted, or aid the sick will also feel the tightening of credit or the limits of largesse in an economic downturn is, again, something unimagined by those who simply assume that all Jews walk away from economic panics with golden parachutes or are forever cushioned from the financial stresses of everyday life.

It is my job, ADL's job, and unfortunately the job of Jews worldwide, to remind our fellow citizens that when the markets quake, the ground shakes underneath us as well.

As Americans, we are all undoubtedly going to see harder times and the new President will need our best wishes and our best ideas.  What we can not afford is to blame any one group or profession for the mess we are in.  We must roll up our sleeves and work together to keep our country afloat and to limit the number of people who are in dire economic distress.

Jewish philanthropy and Jewish commitment to social service – the commitment to tikkun olam, to repair the world -- is, after all, the side of the coin that the economic anti-Semite neither sees nor imagines.  All Jews, rich and poor, are called to tzedakah, to acts of righteous giving, each in the way that his or her purse will accommodate.  Don't expect the anti-Semites to notice.  We give charity not for the thanks we receive, but for the good it will do another.  We do it not because we are genetically disposed to generosity, but because it is among the highest values of our heritage, which is indeed rich in ethical principals.

Thank you."

Thork

Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #156 on: September 18, 2014, 04:21:36 PM »
Jews always lie about their wealth.

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Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #157 on: September 18, 2014, 04:23:45 PM »
THORK will always lie about being a fucktard.

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Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #158 on: September 18, 2014, 04:36:15 PM »
This was a good thread while it lasted.

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Re: Scottish Independence
« Reply #159 on: September 18, 2014, 05:08:35 PM »
It's looking like a no, anyway. I'm kind of upset, since I like the idea of Ireland not being alone with the U.K. on the British and Irish Isles but we'll survive.
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