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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: Today at 02:51:47 AM »
Vermont, for example, hasn’t enacted any laws on abortion, they just affirm a woman’s right to choose. There are no elective third trimester abortions though as they contravene standard medical ethics. I do think it’s important not to permit elective abortions of viable fetuses (meaning they are capable of surviving outside the mother’s womb), the elective third trimester abortion is a right wing boogey man as far as I have read.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 25, 2022, 04:28:43 PM »
Almost as crazy as mainstream progressives.
Everything I don't like is a meme.

I'm sure even Lenin himself would shudder at the political viewpoints of progressive Canadians.

If you don’t want me to think you’re a meme, don’t post stuff like this.

You’re far too biased for your opinion on anything political to matter.

Apprently it mattered enough for you to comment with a vapid “muh both sides!” Being honest about one’s feelings is important. Let’s talk more after you’ve read the GOP platform, k?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 25, 2022, 11:10:23 AM »
Holy crap.

The language is specific and has nothing to do with physical assault.

Where does it say it has nothing to do with assault, specifically?

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People stating they do not condone homosexual behavior are the ones facing criminal or civil penalties, for simply stating that belief.

Who has faced criminal charges for simply stating they do not condone homosexuality?

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Yeah, it could look like that.

What is wrong with that?

It’s unnecessary discrimination in a lot of cases.

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It ends when you can come up with a valid reason for claiming to have achieved a sense of PRIDE due to committing a sexual act.

First off, Pride celebrations are not just about a sexual act so your characterization above is already off the mark. But if you want to know why Pride celebrations exist (I am going to assume you are ignorant and asking in good faith) well that’s simple.

Society largely made homosexuals feel ashamed and often made it unsafe to be homosexual for centuries. No one should feel threat or shame for being themselves and everyone should feel pride for who they are. Pride celebrations are a peaceful way to push back against people who want to discriminate against, propagate hate towards and oppress LGBTQ+ folk.

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Traditional values are the ones established and inculcated in each individual.

So everything people value is traditional.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 25, 2022, 10:18:26 AM »
Almost as crazy as mainstream progressives.
Everything I don't like is a meme.

I'm sure even Lenin himself would shudder at the political viewpoints of progressive Canadians.

If you don’t want me to think you’re a meme, don’t post stuff like this.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 24, 2022, 09:19:25 PM »
Mission: Success



Sexual repression always works out in the end.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 24, 2022, 07:03:29 PM »
Yes, you love dog whistles, I know.
Hmmm, you call the word "abnormal," a dog whistle?

Why?

The usage in connection to homosexuals is absolutely a dog whistle. If it’s simply meant as something that deviates from the norm then there is no need to legislate away rights that have been granted to them. It’s clear the GOP considers same-sex marriage unwanted and not on utilitarian grounds either.

You aren’t stupid, you know all of this. But you enjoy being able to support homophobia without doing so explicitly.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 24, 2022, 06:16:34 PM »
There is so much that is comically villainous in this platform that I forgot the nugget where, for some reason (I wonder what it could be), the Texas GOP asserts that the equal protection clause expired in 1979.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 24, 2022, 06:14:50 PM »
Practically speaking this doesn't do as much as it seems.  About 60% of abortions are done by a pill they can send in the mail.

The next struggle I'm sure will be to monitor people's mail and break into their medicine cabinets.

Except that there are cases where women who had miscarriages come under criminal investigation, so that’s not great, as rare as those cases are. Also, Thomas literally saying that this opens the door for striking down rights connected to other groups the GOP hates is ominous.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 24, 2022, 06:12:07 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop
Alternatively, they are not the extremists. You are the extremist.

I’ve thought about that. It’s not true. You can tell by how philisophically inconsistent their platform document is. They claim to want to reduce government interference then proceed to describe how they wish to insert themselves square in the middle of education, healthcare, business and interpersonal relationships. They declare that they want to represent the best interests of the people but then tell us how helping people is by reducing checks on the rich, increasing environmental pollution and stifling education. The cynicism it takes to present this platform as an actually consistent ideology rises to the level of malice.

Feel free to quote them directly from the document rather than giving your hot take that they want to destroy the country. I simply do not believe you.

You don’t believe the thing I didn’t say? Incredible turn of events. This is such a poor deflection from my response I can only assume you have nothing to say about their inconsistency about the values they claim to uphold. Thanks for playing.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 24, 2022, 05:55:14 PM »
Le epic triple post.

Politicians saying crazy and outrageous things is a non-issue! If their views aren't popular, then they'll lose, and if their views are popular, then it's democracy in action!

This but unironically. If a 'crazy' politician sees a wide base of support, then you don't just have a 'crazy' politician, you have a 'crazy' population.

You are mostly right except having a crazy population isn’t a non-issue. People have to share the world with Texas.

Alternatively, they are not the extremists. You are the extremist.

I’ve thought about that. It’s not true. You can tell by how philisophically inconsistent their platform document is. They claim to want to reduce government interference then proceed to describe how they wish to insert themselves square in the middle of education, healthcare, business and interpersonal relationships. They declare that they want to represent the best interests of the people but then tell us how helping people is by reducing checks on the rich, increasing environmental pollution and stifling education. The cynicism it takes to present this platform as an actually consistent ideology rises to the level of malice.

EDIT: Don’t forget the white supremacist dog whistles, like “being opposed to the great replacement” or “protecting western culture”. Or full on embracing of the Big Lie as true.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 24, 2022, 05:43:47 PM »
Le epic triple post.

Politicians saying crazy and outrageous things is a non-issue! If their views aren't popular, then they'll lose, and if their views are popular, then it's democracy in action!

This but unironically. If a 'crazy' politician sees a wide base of support, then you don't just have a 'crazy' politician, you have a 'crazy' population.

You are mostly right except having a crazy population isn’t a non-issue. People have to share the world with Texas.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 24, 2022, 05:42:45 PM »
... millions of people will welcome their new overlords.
The only problem you are experiencing is it doesn't happen to be you claiming that title.

Please stop.

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And they are correct in using the word "abnormal."

Yes, you love dog whistles, I know.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 24, 2022, 05:41:27 PM »
Because they are actively seeking to roll back civil rights protections, undermine the democratic process, foster ignorance and widen the gap between the rich and poor even further.  This is how you tear down a society and even worse, millions of people will welcome their new overlords.

You are contradicting yourself. If million of people in Texas are welcoming it then it is democracy and the democratic process.

It’s ok if you don’t understand democracy, but don’t try and make me agree with you.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 24, 2022, 02:29:21 PM »
If it wasn’t so scary

Can you explain to us why you are so scared?

Because they are actively seeking to roll back civil rights protections, undermine the democratic process, foster ignorance and widen the gap between the rich and poor even further.  This is how you tear down a society and even worse, millions of people will welcome their new overlords.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 24, 2022, 01:52:08 PM »
Tom, as you know dishonest McTrollface, the VAERS data can not distinguish between a positive result, a false positive, a deception or a mistake. It’s the beginning of an investigation, not a conclusion.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 24, 2022, 04:31:48 AM »
That’s a long post that doesn’t say anything about COVID. Not surprising.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 24, 2022, 04:14:20 AM »
Almost as crazy as mainstream progressives.

Nice meme. Don’t drink the kool-aid, kid.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / The Texas GOP
« on: June 24, 2022, 03:34:44 AM »
https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/6-Permanent-Platform-Committee-FINAL-REPORT-6-16-2022.pdf

The Texas GOP released their new platform and it is special. Among the highlights of this gong show are officially rejecting the 2020 presidential election, referring to homosexuals as abnormal, a desire to ban all sex education, extending parental rights well beyond the age of majority in matters of healthcare, calling for a referendum on secession, tax breaks for the wealthy, abolishing the UN and some nod towards every other culture war issue the GOO has conjured over the last few years. If it wasn’t so scary, it would be hilarious and belong in the “Terrible Political Memes” thread.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 24, 2022, 03:06:58 AM »
Apparently the FDA also thinks the safety is unknown and thinks children would make the perfect experimental base to test this.

https://sboh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-01/Tab05a-PublicComment-Packet-Final.pdf?ver=2021-10-08-155349-087


No. They are making an obvious tautology. Of course you can’t know how a vaccine will affect a child until you give it to a child.

In regards to safety, you can easily find an extremely large number of institutions and professionals vouching for the safety of the vaccine. This isn’t controversial unless you actively look constantly to undermine orthodoxy and are willing to disregard vast amounts of evidence to do so. It doesn’t matter how many red herrings like “novel genetic manipulation” or the frequency of boosters, you offer. The data is being collected and continues to agree with the safety assessments. Sorry, you are neither convincing enough nor scary enough to change anyone’s mind.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 23, 2022, 10:51:53 PM »
Yep. Of the million medical doctors in the US you found one who says something which fits your agenda.
You can keep ignoring this if you like but is your doctor's view the prevailing one? If it isn't then you're just cherry picking. Again.

Actually it's not cherry picking at all. The prevailing view is that it is unknown if the vaccine is safe long term.

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And of course the long term effects of something new is unknown, by definition.

Yes, and that is exactly the message given by the previous doctor I cited on this. Due diligence is required because "safe" drugs have turned out to be unsafe.

You are being dishonest of course. You are implying there is a serious risk associated with potentially unknown side effects when the prevailing opinion based on a vast body of knowledge is that unknown side effects are almost certainly not going to present themselves in a long time frame but instead present acutely. The prevailing medical opinion is that the vaccines are VERY safe.

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