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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« on: December 01, 2021, 01:24:12 PM »

We will just have to agree to disagree and throw down when the next Momoa epic hits the theatres.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« on: December 01, 2021, 04:14:26 AM »

I couldn't possibly disagree more with all of this. Every scene in a movie is important. Every scene should be done to the best of everyone's abilities. Every actor should give the best performance they can. I fundamentally do not believe that lame dialogue should be overlooked on the grounds that it's just exposition and a necessary evil, or that a dull scene should be shrugged off because it's just setting the stage for what's to follow, or that a halfhearted performance should be handwaved away because hey, maybe that character is just emotionally shallow, nothing to see here, move along. The film is the sum of its parts, both good and bad. Every line of dialogue, every scene, every character, and every performance are what make the film. If a certain scene feels it like it's only there because it has to be, and it's just something that you want to get over with quickly, then the movie has a problem.

I never said any of that.  I dont think anything should be overlooked, but not every scene is there to be mined for emotional and dramatic importance either. Some scenes have very simple purposes, and do not require as much from the performers.  Your characterization of Momoa as "half-hearted" is not something you could ever substantiate so you may want to drop it.  You don't get offers for work like he gets if you are dogging it.  It seems to underly the butt hurt you have from him though.  Also, if you think characters having varying emotional depth is handwaving then you may want to go back and have a look at fictional characters again because it's just a fact.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« on: November 30, 2021, 06:48:15 PM »

Greetings, fellow generic fantasy fan.

How dare you. Robert E Howard created the character in 1932. Show some fucking respect.

He sounds like a dudebro.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« on: November 30, 2021, 01:55:52 PM »

He’s not a poor actor

Well, this is where we disagree. Momoa is a likable screen presence, but his acting ability could be described most generously as very limited. This really isn't an especially controversial opinion. Momoa's looks and charisma are what made him the star he is today, not his dramatic chops.

He did a lot of scenes in Game of Thrones without speaking where he conveyed a lot about his relationship with Danerys. It’s not easy and he pulled it off really well. Momoa is an actor who made his mark by portraying parts with physicality and has shown chops in that, seen clearly in his fight scenes. I polled some reviews about him and I couldn’t see any negativity about him either. I imagine there is some hate for him on Reddit, because Reddit, but that’s not really indicative of a consensus.

If something is worth doing, then it's worth doing well. Even if it's just exposition. I'm not saying that Momoa should have chewed the scenery or tried to make the whole scene about himself the way that someone like Jared Leto would have done.

Exposition should be dealt with quickly and efficiently. Which he did. That’s about as effective as it gets. Honestly, you don’t really want exposition to be drawn out in any way because it’s not written for any purpose than delivering information. I still got the sense that he respected and awed by the Fremen. There is zero need to add dramatic content to this scene. The movie already has a pretty heavy handed tone.

Okay, so this reads as a little contradictory to me, but I'll just ignore that

It wasn’t.

- Paul's hazy visions of a couple of Fremen standing in front of him holding bloody knives was hardly a real introduction to the Fremen,

It was at least as much of an introduction as the Momoa scene, if not more. It showed you a fierce people living in the desert and showed that they played a massive role in the movie thematically.

and I think that a good performance from Momoa would have made Stilgar's subsequent introduction resonate more.

Why do you think that?

It's interesting that you mention "show, don't tell," because that's the basic gist of what I think would have improved the scene. Effective nonverbal acting from Momoa would show us how impressed he is by the Fremen and how deeply he's come to respect them, instead of just having to rely on dialogue to tell us how impressed he is by the Fremen and how deeply he's come to respect them.

You are trying to make a scene that wasn’t written. The scene is a reunion where stories are shared. It’s meant to be light hearted, which is why Brolin also makes “dudebro” jokes. Duncan talks about how legit the Fremen are and they move on. The part you want in this scene is in the scene with Bardem. Why double down? There is already too much material to get through, being precious by trying to add dramatic heft to every scene would bog it down.

It’s also worth noting that not all characters should have deep emotional lives. The actors are trying to portray authentic people in extraordinary circumstances and within that you will find people who are emotionally shallow. I find it interesting that you accuse Momoa of this but never mention Bautista. His portrayal didn’t exhibit a ton of range; I don’t think it needed to and Bautista doesn’t even have the charisma of someone like Momoa.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« on: November 30, 2021, 02:00:15 AM »

He’s not a poor actor, that’s why you seem so butthurt. A good actor would not make a meal of a scene of exposition; it wasn’t the introduction to the Fremen, that was in Paul’s visions, and Villeneuve rightly saved the impact of the Fremen for
Javier Bardems scene with Duke Atreiades, show don’t tell. Momoa was there to pass on some information, not win an Oscar. He understood that and Villeneuve understood that, so you got a simple scene with some of Momoa’s charisma, which you don’t like because it’s too “dude bro” which doesn’t mean much.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« on: November 29, 2021, 11:54:51 AM »

Ah yes, elite military personnel and their emotional field reports. Makes total sense.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« on: November 28, 2021, 08:26:14 PM »

The number of actors who seem like “not themself” from role to role is very small. It’s something people throw out when they just don’t like an actor and want to concoct a reason.

Exactly. Honk clearly just hates Momoa for some reason.

It’s because he is hot af. I hate him too.

Idaho was unironically one of the better characters in that movie and I thought Moma did great.

I thought so. He sold me on the empathy and respect he built for the Fremen, seemed to genuinely love Paul and House Atreiades. Could fight. 10/10 would cast again.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« on: November 28, 2021, 08:19:05 PM »

Dune was good. Jason Momoa was great.

Yes, I'm sure that fans of Momoa eager to see him once again play himself will enjoy his role.

Do you even know what Jason Momoa is like? Because Duncan Idaho doesn't seem like a goofy surfer bro full of hippie love. But stay mad that actors are typecast. I bet you hate Denzel Washington for frequently being the same character too.

The number of actors who seem like “not themself” from role to role is very small. It’s something people throw out when they just don’t like an actor and want to concoct a reason.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« on: November 26, 2021, 03:52:17 PM »

I was really surprised that it was as well-reviewed as it was.  I found it to be boring as fuck.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 22, 2021, 04:21:30 PM »

So someone possessing a firearm on Capitol Grounds on Jan 6 isn't actually possesing a firearm on Capitol Grounds on Jan 6th, good talk.

Revising definitions after the fact is a favorite pastime of all shitbags and idiots

So literally possessing a firearm isn't possessing a firearm.  Keep going.

If we we were discussing possession you'd have a point. Try capitol grounds. I know you desperately need this, but too bad.

You haven't contradicted anything I said about Capitol Grounds, so it seems pretty obvious you don't have anything to contest it.  But please, continue trying to appear as a mysterious maverick.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 22, 2021, 03:44:54 PM »

So someone possessing a firearm on Capitol Grounds on Jan 6 isn't actually possesing a firearm on Capitol Grounds on Jan 6th, good talk.

Revising definitions after the fact is a favorite pastime of all shitbags and idiots

So literally possessing a firearm isn't possessing a firearm.  Keep going.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 22, 2021, 03:18:41 PM »

So someone possessing a firearm on Capitol Grounds on Jan 6 isn't actually possesing a firearm on Capitol Grounds on Jan 6th, good talk.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 22, 2021, 02:27:39 PM »

There absolutely were people that were armed. Christopher Albert was one such person.

Outcome?

Hey remember when you called Dr VanNostrand a liar and said there were zero people that were armed there? Turns out you were wrong and acted pretty shitty based on a Facebook meme or something. Why don’t you acknowledge that?

Because you offered something that didn't state what you claimed it does. That's why.

Sorry you are having trouble reading. Let me quote the part where they say he was armed, what type of firearm it was, the serial number, the number of rounds he had and that there was one in the chamber:

At that point, I told two MPD officers next to him that ALBERTS had a firearm on his person. ALBERTS, apparently hearing that, immediately tried to flee, but I was able to detain him with the help of two other officers. A black Taurus G2C 9mm (Serial#AAL085515) was recovered from D-1’s right hip. Additionally, a separate magazine was located on D-1’s left hip. Both the gun and the spare magazine were in held in two separate holsters. The handgun had one round in the chamber with a twelve round capacity magazine filled with twelve rounds; the spare magazine also had a twelve round capacity and was filled with twelve rounds.

Now I eagerly await an admission that:

How many people at the US Capitol were armed?

Answer -0

Was incorrect. Also that:

You're just weak liar.

Was completely unwarranted since you were attacking him based on your ignorance.

EDIT: At least 4 were charged with firearms violations in connection with the event.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/january-6-capitol-riot-firearm-guy-reffitt

Nothing about anything related to actual possession on grounds on January 6.

Prosecutor overcharge, as usual.

This took place in the US Capitol Visitor Center which is an addition to the Capitol Building and “on Capitol grounds”; indeed it has space and offices used by Congress.

Did you read the document I linked at all?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 22, 2021, 01:29:15 PM »

There absolutely were people that were armed. Christopher Albert was one such person.

Outcome?

Hey remember when you called Dr VanNostrand a liar and said there were zero people that were armed there? Turns out you were wrong and acted pretty shitty based on a Facebook meme or something. Why don’t you acknowledge that?

Because you offered something that didn't state what you claimed it does. That's why.

Sorry you are having trouble reading. Let me quote the part where they say he was armed, what type of firearm it was, the serial number, the number of rounds he had and that there was one in the chamber:

At that point, I told two MPD officers next to him that ALBERTS had a firearm on his person. ALBERTS, apparently hearing that, immediately tried to flee, but I was able to detain him with the help of two other officers. A black Taurus G2C 9mm (Serial#AAL085515) was recovered from D-1’s right hip. Additionally, a separate magazine was located on D-1’s left hip. Both the gun and the spare magazine were in held in two separate holsters. The handgun had one round in the chamber with a twelve round capacity magazine filled with twelve rounds; the spare magazine also had a twelve round capacity and was filled with twelve rounds.

Now I eagerly await an admission that:

How many people at the US Capitol were armed?

Answer -0

Was incorrect. Also that:

You're just weak liar.

Was completely unwarranted since you were attacking him based on your ignorance.

EDIT: At least 4 were charged with firearms violations in connection with the event.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/january-6-capitol-riot-firearm-guy-reffitt

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 22, 2021, 01:13:06 PM »

There absolutely were people that were armed. Christopher Albert was one such person.

Outcome?

Hey remember when you called Dr VanNostrand a liar and said there were zero people that were armed there? Turns out you were wrong and acted pretty shitty based on a Facebook meme or something. Why don’t you acknowledge that?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 22, 2021, 11:26:48 AM »

There absolutely were people that were armed. Christopher Albert was one such person.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: November 19, 2021, 11:55:38 PM »

I’m not convinced the GOP establishment wants him but I am also not convinced they are willing to do what the Dems did to Bernie.

Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney are two of the few in the GOP with any balls left.

Mitch McConnell has balls. He just doesn’t believe in anything other than screwing over the Dems.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: November 19, 2021, 10:36:59 PM »

I’m not convinced the GOP establishment wants him but I am also not convinced they are willing to do what the Dems did to Bernie.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 19, 2021, 10:35:13 PM »

Ok, I was mistaken that he traveled with the weapon. It doesn't functionally change the argument that he was acting as a vigilante. He was expecting violence, he was there to protect a car dealership, he had a deadly weapon. Is any of that not factual?

Dude was there during daylight hours that same day cleaning graffiti off walls from the "protest" and picking up litter. In what sense was he acting as a vigilante or expecting violence? He was there for a normal work shift (or more) just doing normal things until the pedo snapped and went after him, which triggered the ensemble.

I read he did grab his gun and mentioned something about protecting a business he was familiar with but even then, he did a whole lot of things not remotely vigilante like until the confrontation happened.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 19, 2021, 09:47:41 PM »

Rittenhouse was allowed to carry that rifle in WI. IDing him would have been a useless infringement.