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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist

« on: July 05, 2023, 05:08:23 PM »

It is a feature of the willfully ignorant that they will reject any evidence that goes against their beliefs. There are people that work on nuclear weapons, there are astronauts that have orbited the earth but the willful ingnoids whose delusions are threatened these people simply brand them as liars.

Truthfully, I wouldn't care if these idiots didn't believe the earth is round or if nukes exist. The smugness wrapping their absolute stupidity is very entertaining. They'll never know how idiotic they are to those of us who who have to deal with reality. The danger they pose is when their soft mushy minds are used by people like Trump or Putin. Let's face it, if you can't even understand the basic geography of this planet, you're going to be fodder for cult leaders, despots, late night infomercials and internet banner ads. Have your credit card standing by!

I do wonder, metaphysically, if in our death, we do see some level of truth in the beyond. I imagine the soul of a flat earther leaving their body and being exposed to the nature of truth around them. As their disembodied soul soars over the stars and planets, will they still curse and insist it's all a liberal hoax?

If Rushy was blown up by a nuclear weapon, would there be a moment of enlightenment where all dimensions of the past and future are visible. Would he see the bomb being built and deployed? Would the story of what really killed him enter his awareness?

lol, Imagine the afterlife, Jesus trying to explain to Rushy that he was blown up by a nuclear weapon.
"Prove it, you long-haired, liberal, hippie freak!"

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: July 04, 2023, 10:51:57 PM »

Aside from the papers being legitimately located at Mar-a-Lago for many reasons, including a President ordering them to be there, there were no boxes of classified documents in the bathroom. They found the classified papers in the basement storage room.

It was later claimed that more classified documents were found in Trump's office area, but it is unclear how secure that was. Presumably the Secret Service would design it to be secure for sensitive papers to go between the basement and the president's/former president's office. It was not the bathroom where documents were found. So, you were lied to and your argument is based on lies.

It's all good. The Republicans want their President to have unilateral control over sensitive documents with no oversight.




Even if they were in a bathroom, it's ok. Mar-a-lago is a very secure place.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/25/chinese-trespasser-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-resort-sentenced.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2022/08/26/russian-speaking-immigrant-allegedly-entered-mar-a-lago-using-fake-identity-met-with-trump-report-says/?sh=27fc31e4196a
https://nypost.com/2022/11/03/trespasser-caught-at-donald-trumps-mar-a-lago-estate-cops/
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/man-breached-mar-a-lago-after-secret-service-warning-prosecutors-claim-16198928

We could let the Donald off as an ignorant buffoon when it comes to the whole document incident. Maybe, the fact that he's a traitorous piece of shit that allied himself with every one of our national adversaries and the fact that he left sensitive documents vulnerable like an idiot is just a coincidence.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist

« on: June 30, 2023, 11:42:06 AM »

I like how, rather than provide the evidence I ask for, you'd prefer to presuppose it will be rejected. This is, of course, because you don't have it, and you're acting defensive about it and rationalizing it as "you wouldn't think it's true anyway!!!"

And I like how you ask for evidence that you know full well is impossible to provide and then get all smug when people do try to provide what evidence is possible to provide.

The second half of this tactic is the famous "I'm not doing your homework for you." It allows freaks to make outlandish claims and live them with no accounting for reality. I've known people who spent months working on a submarines with enough nuclear firepower to destroy a hemisphere and poison the entire planet with radiation. Those people who live and work on those submarines as well as those who developed the weapons are laughing at some idiotic beanbag on the internet who says it's all fake.
It's the same way people in Australia laugh at the flat earthers. The FE crowd can go on and on about about how stupid the mainstream sheeples are but they are still the ones that can't explain the basic geography of the planet.

It would all be sad except it's so much fun laughing at these people, it does have some redeeming social value.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Aliens!

« on: June 30, 2023, 01:02:48 AM »

Politicians calling for the investigation of UFOs and release of UFO evidence are simply click-baiting the conspiracy redneck constituency. They know there's no secret alien autopsy but it sells really well. It works even if aliens aren't real.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist

« on: June 29, 2023, 03:05:42 AM »

I've been thinking of ways to prove to a Zetetic that nuclear bombs do exist. We could personally walk them through the physics of the bomb and the mechanics of making a nuclear bomb but they would have no proof it actually works.

So, we walk them through the physics of a nuclear bomb, walk them through the mechanics of building a nuclear bomb and set them a distance from ground zero of a nuclear bomb equipped with all the detection equipment they request. Perhaps in the split second before they are incinerated, they will detect some radioactive signature unique to a nuclear reaction from a nuclear bomb that would convince them that nuclear bombs do exist. Is there any evidence they could possibly gather right up until the last split second before they are vaporized that nuclear weapons do exist?

Even in retrospect, these people would be wandering around the afterlife believing they were blown up by crates of TNT and their whole experience of life was a liberal hoax run by the leftist, pedophile cabal.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 27, 2023, 12:12:32 PM »

You can dispute the quality of evidence of course, which is I'm sure what his defence lawyers will do in court. But to say there's "no evidence" is simply incorrect.
If there was no evidence then he wouldn't have been arrested.

The MAGAnoids aren't interested in truth or real evidence. They are going to believe whatever they want. Some believe that Trump's real estate sales techniques can help them flip their way to financial independence. Some believe he's the Second Coming of Christ. Some believe he's an innocent patriot being persecuted. Of course, they all feel differently after The Donald screws them and throws them under the bus. Pretty much everyone who supported Trump now hates him.

He waves the Mueller report in the air saying he's exonerated and the idiots believe him. Fox Broadcasting hides the Jan 6th hearings and the idiots have no awareness that Trump and his orks tried to overthrow our government. The idiots pay $20,000 for a day at a shabby airport banquet room watching videos of Trump talking about how rich he is and they still believe him. Trump said it himself about his gullible followers, he could shoot someone and they would still support him.

If these redneck buffoons fell so easily for a dumbass like Trump, they're going to line up like soldiers when the real Anti-Christ arrives.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 26, 2023, 07:30:44 PM »

The problem here is that you guys don't know anything and are reading media hype that former president Trump shouldn't have access to top secret information. Trump's government responsibilities aren't over when he leaves office. Ex-presidents keep their security clearances and can even get CIA briefings.

The current authority for former presidents to access CIA information is given as:

32 CFR § 1909.1 - Authority and purpose.

(b) Purpose. This part prescribes procedures for waiving the need-to-know requirement for access to classified information with respect to persons:

...

(3) Requesting access to classified CIA information as a former President or Vice President.

The Official Fahrenheit 9-11 Reader - https://books.google.com/books?id=-kmqVwE8x1YC&lpg=PT61&ots=VA9eweSoSD&pg=PT61#v=onepage&q&f=false



https://www.newsweek.com/trump-calls-claims-he-wanted-cut-obama-intelligence-briefings-fake-news-1082650

Why do former presidents and officials continue to receive intelligence?

In addition to meeting with foreign leaders, former presidents and intelligence officials are expected to receive intelligence briefings for a number of other reasons.

One of the most obvious reasons is so that they can continue to advise the sitting administration and officials on incidents that may either be ongoing or reflect those of the past.

"Having former senior officials hold active security clearances can be critically important for those currently charged with defending our nation," Jamil N. Jaffer, who was associate counsel to President George W. Bush and founder of George Mason University's National Security Institute, told The Washington Post in a recent interview.

"It allows them to turn rapidly to people with significant experience, context and contacts to help interpret the activity of our opponents and to provide wise counsel and guidance, whether that's in the terrorism, foreign policy or any national security context," he said.

The bolded suggests that they get to keep holding security clearances.

And, surprise: Trump still has the same security clearance he had while still in office:

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-do-security-clearances-allow-trump-keep-files-mar-lago-1751602

In an episode of the America First podcast with Dr. Sebastian Gorka, the former Trump advisor said the ex-president still had the same security clearances as he did while still in office.

"I still have all the clearances I had in the White House, I have top secret SCI," Gorka added.

"There's a very special aspect to being a president. Not only do you have the top secret clearances—the highest level, including nuclear secret clearance when you are president—guess what? The American system allows you to keep all your clearances until you die.

"Jimmy Carter who's still shuffling around at whatever it is, 95 years old; Bush Jr; Clinton; Obama—all have their clearances. And guess what? So does President Trump. So the idea that he's reading stuff or keeping stuff he's not allowed to is bollocks."

So again, you are saying a President is within his right to collect secret documents and make them available to our national adversaries?
An Ex-President has no accountability for how he handles secret documents. He can do as he pleases. Just say it.

BTW, maintaining a secret clearance after you leave office doesn't have anything to do with this. The people with clearances are still held to high standards in the way they handle documents.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Aliens!

« on: June 24, 2023, 09:49:56 PM »

The U.S. government couldn't keep their most top secret secrets secret, even with an unlimited budget and no ethical oversight.

I don't think they have any physical evidence. But it would be pretty easy to keep data a secret. Or maybe not a secret but discredit enough that it just sounds like crazy conspiracies. They have the extra benefit of a lot of people thinking it's crazy bullshit already.

If we had any real data, the Russians would already have it. (Solarwinds)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 23, 2023, 09:27:40 PM »

They are property of the President to do with as he pleases, as all classification power originates from the president and all executive branches exist at the whim of the President. The executive branches are not above the President, it is the opposite way around. They are the President's records. Trump was President when he did it and decided where they should be located. Mar-a-Lago was obviously security hardened, and has been staffed with Secret Service agents with guns in the time the papers were located there. The photographed classified papers were in the basement, which the SCIF was also in, and which received the most security hardening.

So what you are saying is "Yes, an Ex-President is empowered to turn over sensitive documents to a national adversary in order to form an alliance with the goal of world domination."

I'm guessing you would blame such an event on the fact that the American people freely elected a corrupt President to work closely with Russia. They will get the results they want and deserve.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Aliens!

« on: June 23, 2023, 09:18:20 PM »

The U.S. government couldn't keep their most top secret secrets secret, even with an unlimited budget and no ethical oversight.
Bill Clinton couldn't even hide a girl under his desk. If they were hiding any UFOs, Yetis or miracle cancer cures, it would have been on the evening news long ago.

That is not what this is at all. This is a person simultaneously claiming they are a patriot to a government that is covering up the existence of alien spacecraft and aliens in general. It's paradoxical. You can't be both a whistleblower and keep all the secrets of the organization you're blowing the whistle on.

True, this is a special variety of freak. But still a freak with nothing but a story.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Aliens!

« on: June 23, 2023, 12:30:31 PM »

I don't know who is being serious and who is joking, but I do know this entire whistleblower thing seems insane to me now. Why would you tell us there's a massive US government coverup of The Truth™ then refuse to reveal any of the information because the government considers it classified?

This is the classic pattern with conspiracy freaks. We see it in Flat Earth, Fake Moon Landing, Time Travel Experiments, Medbeds, etc.

These beliefs give the believer the idea that they are special. That they have special knowledge that sets them apart from and above humanity. They treasure this knowledge and protect it from reality. It allows them an escape from the real truth that they are sad losers whose only life is a stupid story of made-up aliens.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 21, 2023, 11:17:40 PM »

So after watching legal eagle, I'm convicned that Judge Canon will just let trump off/make the case impossible for him to lose.

Trump will not be persecuted, punished, or inconvenienced because his judge has his case.

Trump will face many trials, criminal and civil, for his years of treachery. But this insightful quote from a wise person will surface over and over again with renewed relevance...

Like Nixon, everyone around Trump will go to jail and he'll walk away.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 20, 2023, 09:53:12 PM »

Yes, that is what the court determined. And on a public interest level, the President was obviously elected to make responsible decisions for the country, and that includes what he decides to do with his papers as he is leaving office.

So.. the President gets to decide what he does with sensitive documents relating to national security. Trump is within his right to drive around with a stack of papers in the back of a pickup truck blowing out all over the freeway? He's the President so he can sell, trade or lose what ever he wants? He has that level of authority.

One of the reasons that we have Republicans supporting the expansion of Russia in Europe and supporting Putin politically, is because they want to BE Russia. They want their chosen leaders to have this level of power. Trump tried to federalize our election data his first year in office. They want a state sponsored media, state church. They want to ban books and incarcerate homosexuals.
Putin can take whatever documents he wants and do as he pleases with them and it makes the Republicans jealous. They saw what Russia did for the government of Venezuela and want them to do it here.

To reiterate my view within the confines of proper language appropriate to the upper forums...
I will never vote for another Republican again.
(Don't even start with all the 'dangers of socialism' BS or the leftist threat from the 'homosexual agenda'. It's all crap, I've heard it all my life.)

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist

« on: June 19, 2023, 01:20:07 PM »

The only possible way for a Zetetic to know that a nuclear weapon actally exists is for them to experience one personally.

Of course, then it would be too late. They would only have a split second of truth and awareness before they turned into vapor.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Remember when?

« on: June 11, 2023, 12:07:05 PM »

I feel a lot better than this anti vaxxer I know who almost died from covid. He's never been the same person.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 10, 2023, 02:23:26 PM »

I wouldn't doubt that Trump declassified many things when meeting with Putin and Kim Jong Un.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Aliens!

« on: June 07, 2023, 02:06:48 AM »

In the spirit of keeping the debate focused, I would like to posit that these types of government incidents have gone on for a long time.
Like the Roswell incident...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_incident
Or this guy...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar

We just now have the ability to generate that type of content in quantities never imagined before. Anybody can be a former government engineer who worked on UFOs or even a Time traveler.

And to quickly address some other points, interdimensional space chicks don't count, that is too close to imaginary.
I would allow for the existence of a single civilization in another galaxy but that's so far away, fuck them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Aliens!

« on: June 06, 2023, 06:41:22 PM »

I want to hook up with a space babe as much as anyone but there are no aliens.
There's no such thing as an 'earth-like' planet.
All the data we have about exoplanets shows our cosmos is an inhospitable sewer. The Drake equation with solve showing one civilization per galaxy.

Aliens aren't real but they do make awesome clickbait

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.

« on: June 03, 2023, 02:29:48 PM »

Former president Abraham Lincoln was not given lessons on homosexual anal play in his American school system. American Jazz musician Louis Armstrong was not taught how to stimulate prostates. And nor was Jurassic Park writer Michael Crichton taught the ins and outs of LGBT sex acts as part of his curriculum.

The question in the OP was whether a LGBT agenda was being promoted, not whether you agree with it. The teaching of homosexual sex techniques is a new phenomenon the American school system, and is further evidence with all of the other items of a LGBT agenda. Whether you agree with anal stimulation techniques being taught in school is irrelevant to that.

In school, Abraham Lincoln was taught that black people should be slaves. Louis Armstrong went to a school called,"Colored Waif's Home for Boys" and Michael Crichton went to a school that literally had no black people. But at least no one was talking about anal sex.

Kids should learn about sex the traditional way, by stealing pornographic print media and hiding it under their bed.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 03, 2023, 01:24:22 AM »

So apparently Trump's day 1 promise is to invalidate the constitution with an executive order.


So.... Fun!

The scary part is that his mindless followers love that shit and will give their lives for it. It could win the Republican nomination.