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Flat Earth Community / Re: Where are the earth pictures?
« on: July 20, 2017, 07:25:36 PM »
This is an unedited picture of Earth from the moon



False, that picture was debunked as CGI
. There hasn't been 1 picture of the earth that isn't computer generated.
How?  Because there are no stars in it?  ::)

It is called exposure.  Take a moment to look it up.  This has only been explained (and can be proven) 50-100 million times.

Why can't you see stars during the day?
I'm fairly certain Skeptic was being sarcastic, hence the eye roll

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is the Sun?
« on: July 17, 2017, 05:47:23 AM »
Don't you use "observation" as the basic premise for your belief that the earth is flat?

Nope. The basic premise is based on the controlled water convexity experiments which have been repeated numerous times over 150 years, under a variety of atmospheric conditions, with human eye sight and with lasers, by multiple researchers, on multiple types of water environments, published in multiple mediums including a scientific journal seeking to peer review such experiments, and sometimes with barometric pressure instrument controls at request.

I have never seen the results of such a study. If the surface of water is truly flat as you say, then why do images of Chicago from across Lake Michigan show only the top portion of the tallest buildings? If the surface of the water is truly flat, shouldn't I be able to see more of the building?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Where are the earth pictures?
« on: July 15, 2017, 12:52:55 AM »
I recently started searching about FE, and i am truly in doubt.

Thats great,

NASA are their own worst enemies, the fact that thousands of the early moon landing tapes conveniently were erased shows that NASA fears scrutiny. If anyone still believes that the moon landings actually happened, then they are living in "911 was done by terrorists" la la land, and thats exactly where NASA and the government want them.

Regardless of the shape of the earth, when Roundies start defending the undefendable without questioning any of the numerous  air bubbles, cgi gaffes, and in 911's case, controlled demolition evidence, then its a sure sign that they are a part of the deception so be careful on here.
Would you like to share some of your favorite evidence against NASA?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Where are the earth pictures?
« on: July 14, 2017, 08:03:13 PM »
This is an unedited picture of Earth from the moon



False, that picture was debunked as CGI. There hasn't been 1 picture of the earth that isn't computer generated.

The only people who have "debunked" these photos are flat earthers that would debunk a trip to space if they saw it for themselves.

You can just watch the live feed from the ISS if you want.  But I am guessing that has somehow been debunked as fake also....  Pitty you are too closed minded to realize how closed minded you are.

Even if you claim all of NASA's information is false, there is still endless evidence that destroys flat earth theory.
Debunked by whom? What reasoning did they use to prove these images to be fake?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Density and the replacement of gravity.
« on: July 14, 2017, 05:38:09 PM »
OK OK. Somebody here mentioned accelerated flat earth upwards as a cause for "gravity" effect.
Then why this acceleration is not uniform on Earth surface? The earth would disintegrate many years back
Why is acceleration becoming smaller as you go higher?
What causes Sun to accelerate and not fall on the Earth?
Same for Moon.

I would add some more but let's start with these. As I know that there is no explanation that open minded can give.

I'd suggest you read the FAQ and maybe search the fora. I know you probably think you're the only person to bring this up but it's literally been covered dozens of times, hundreds if you go back to the old forum.

The FAQ doesn't even attempt to address the fact that there are variations in gravitational energy that correlate with latitude and altitude. Searching through the forum yields dozens of poorly articulated (and in some cases contradictory) theories with no repeatable experiments to verify their claims.

I think you're missing the point of a forum. We are all here to have a discussion about the Earth's shape. If all of your responses boil down to "parse through a decade of former discussions to find your answer,"  then why participate in this discussion to begin with?
 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Density and the replacement of gravity.
« on: July 14, 2017, 05:30:47 PM »
While we as humans do not know the cause of gravity (be it the bending of spacetime or some subatomic particle) we can clearly demonstrate extensive knowledge of how these forces work in the real world, and apply said knowledge to make accurate predictions about the world around us.

A great example would be the 2017 solar eclipse that will cross the United States next month. For years, scientists around the world have been accurately predicting the exact time and location that a solar eclipse will be visible, down to the very second. This is only possible because of our incredibly accurate modeling of orbital mechanics.

How would a zeteticist even go about predicting the exact moment an eclipse will appear? In ENaG, Rowbotham claims eclipses are caused by a shadow object that cannot be observed by humans. How do you track the movements of something that cannot be observed?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: What is the best FE evidence?
« on: July 14, 2017, 06:43:21 AM »
Refraction.

As light passes from one medium to another, it bends and scatters, causing all sorts of optical illusions.

For instance, fill a clear glass with water. Put a spoon in it, and put it on your kitchen counter. Look at it. The spoon in the water looks slightly bigger, and it has shifted to the side. This is due to refraction.

The same thing happens to light from the sun. As the sunlight passes through the clouds, the light bends and scatters, causing the sunbeams to form some pretty dramatic angles. It's gorgeous, but in no way does it suggest the sun is any closer than it is. If you follow the angles of sunbeams from the image above, the sun appears to be just a few kilometers above those clouds, when even in FET the sun is supposed to be at least 3000km high.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Our universe confined within a dome?
« on: July 14, 2017, 06:18:22 AM »
could it be that gravity is variable???

Yes, gravity is variable.

First, there is the variation of gravity with latitude that you alluded to. You weigh about 0.5% more at the poles than on the equator. The difference in weight based upon distance to the equator is very small, so that's why you never noticed a difference.

Secondly, gravity also changes with altitude. The gravitational force above the Earth's surface is proportional to 1/R^2, where R is your distance from the center of the Earth. Next time you go on an airplane, pack a small bathroom scale in your carry-on. Weigh yourself in the airport, and weigh yourself mid-flight. You will find that you weigh slightly less in the air than you do on the ground.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Satellites
« on: July 14, 2017, 06:05:28 AM »
Flat Earth Theory must adjust for the commercial space program being real.

Its real in the sense that NASA are sending things up and those things are circling the earth.

But just like 911, I do not believe the NASA narrative, too many faked vids and pictures.
It just reeks of conspiracy, even to non flat earthers, at least we have an answer for it.

Do you have any specific examples of faked NASA videos? I am fascinated with conspiracy theories, and NASA is one of my favorite subjects.

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