1

Flat Earth Theory / The existence of A does not disprove the existence of B

« on: February 07, 2018, 04:11:17 PM »

Hi,

I have been relatively active on the FES for around 2 months now and have noticed a common trend. In the Flat Earth Debate section, most debates follow a common pattern.
1. A RE'er proposes some type of statement and proof
2. A FE'er response to that statement with some type of proof
3. Repeat.

I know what your thinking:
"Well you idiot origamiboy, that's how all debates go"

And your right, but there is something different about debates here: RE'ers almost always propose the argument first. FE'ers usually never make arguments against the RE model and usually are just responding to threads debunking the FE.

Which brings me to my next point:
When the FE'ers responded to a statement they don't explain why the RE statement cant exist, they mostly just explain why the FE answer CAN exist. The existence of A does not disprove the existence of B. In order to really convince (smart) people that the earth if flat, you need to bring up reasons why it isn't round. I have some good places where you could start your debunking:

1. Why cant satellites exist

2. How are NASA's photos and live streams faked

3. Why does the RE model not work (Any reason is great)

4. Why does the government dump billions of dollars, fake hundreds of photos, and videos just to make us believe the earth is flat, and if the "RE prank" is so huge why hasn't anyone who works for NASA or the government never come out and said something.


I think in order for the FE'ers to prove to us that the earth is flat, this is a good place to start.

2

Flat Earth Theory / Satellite Phones V2

« on: December 12, 2017, 03:35:21 PM »

Hello all,

I would like to bring back this topic because I believe it has some good arguments. And I would still love an explanation

Bishop Tom mention that GPS is really only eLORAN signals, but that still does not explain how Satellite Phones work. These phones communicate with large satellites, orbiting around 20000 miles above the earth, and provide reception pretty much everywhere, even the north and south poles. One of the satellites that manage calls on these phones is called Iridium(you can do some research on it if you would like). These phones are commonly used when cell towers are knocked out and work perfectly as described. eLORAN has nothing to do with satellite phones so it cannot be used as an excuse.

Thanks for all your help

3

Flat Earth Theory / Quick questions and maybe an addition to the wiki.

« on: December 11, 2017, 05:14:43 PM »

Hey, I have seen this questions asked a few times, but not officially answered. I also could not find a sufficient answer to it on the wiki.

Why can we see the moon during the day but not the sun during the night?

The best answer for this on the wiki is spotlight lighting, but you should still be able to see it during the night.
Also, How would spotlight lighting even work? In the wiki, they compared it to a lighthouse. A good comparison, however, the sun isn't a lighthouse :/. It transmits light energy throughout its entire surface area, it cannot pick and choose where it wants to transmit light.

After answering this common question it would be nice if the wiki could be updated and add a section for it under the sun or the moon.

Thanks 

4

Flat Earth Theory / Gravity, and the sun and moon

« on: December 06, 2017, 03:16:10 PM »

The flat-earthers seem to have some nice theories about how the sun in the moon floating in the sky, and the earth is accelerating upwards at 9.8 m/s.
Their theory looks like this :

One problem, how do they stay in the sky... why don't the fall back down to earth if they are so close...
And, what is causing the earth to accelerate upwards, it would take a ton of energy for us to be constantly accelerating.
Please debunk me with known facts

5

Flat Earth Theory / Tides?

« on: December 06, 2017, 01:34:36 AM »

Hey flat-earthers,

Can you explain the tides, you know, the things that are controlled by the moon gravitation pull... They work perfectly if gravity exists and the moon is huge, but how do they work on a flat earth module?

Thanks!

6

Flat Earth Theory / GPS?

« on: December 05, 2017, 06:00:05 PM »

Hey, I am an electronics enthusiast and have recently gone on a cruise in the Carribean, I brought along with me my homemade GPS inside of an Altoids Tin (Something like this: ). When I was on the cruise, there were no cell towers anywhere and I got reading very quickly (Like within 5s). Please note: When I am in my apartment (I live in NY) It takes around 30s to get a reading. Even if there was a cell unit on the cruise(There was not, I did not get any cell reception) don't you think I would get faster readings in NY where there are cell towers all around? GPS module used: https://www.adafruit.com/product/746.

PS: Don't try to lecture me on how GPS modules work, I know the ins and outs of them like my own house.
Also: Try to only give me scientific evidence, nothing like: "They probably have a secret cell unit on the ship just for this purpose" or "THE GPS UNIT IS FAKE"

Good Luck debunking this!