Who makes these images?
« on: December 14, 2022, 10:27:20 PM »
https://twitter.com/marsmissionimgs?s=21&t=LgeI5GohD13vGZcQBNUjoQ


This is a bot that automatically posts Mars rover images. They’re uploaded CONSTANTLY (10-15 minutes apart) all day every day.

Supposing they’re not actually photographs from Mars and faked here on earth, how would this be remotely possible?

Much of them depict landscape that doesn’t exist on earth, which could be explained as CG. But how are they making constant CG every few minutes all day every day? It takes weeks to produce a few frames of CG of this quality.

And why would they do it? The public isn’t even interested that much these days. Each one gets 0-2 likes. Why pay people to make fake Mars images every 10 minutes forever for no reason?

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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2022, 02:27:13 PM »
If only there were some kind of image generating machine that could generate novel images constantly and output them on demand. Imagine if that were a thing, haha, that'd be pretty crazy.

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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2022, 03:18:25 PM »
Except these images are real.
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2022, 10:33:29 PM »
somewhere in saudi arabia

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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2022, 03:18:49 AM »
somewhere in saudi arabia

get the camel

If only there were some kind of image generating machine that could generate novel images constantly and output them on demand

Which one?

J-Man, I’m not sure where the Saudi Arabia claim is coming from.

Rushy, Martian imagery predates AI images as we know it. In fact, it’s only in the last couple years or so that AI art became more than just mush. Also, there are fairly obvious tells even from the best AI image generation tools. They don’t hold up to close detail, they smudge, they turn text to gibberish, etc. The rover images are consistent between every picture and show the exact same tiny details of the rover, with all its symbols and text. AI does not do this.
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2022, 11:49:49 PM »
somewhere in saudi arabia

get the camel

If only there were some kind of image generating machine that could generate novel images constantly and output them on demand

Which one?

J-Man, I’m not sure where the Saudi Arabia claim is coming from.

Rushy, Martian imagery predates AI images as we know it. In fact, it’s only in the last couple years or so that AI art became more than just mush. Also, there are fairly obvious tells even from the best AI image generation tools. They don’t hold up to close detail, they smudge, they turn text to gibberish, etc. The rover images are consistent between every picture and show the exact same tiny details of the rover, with all its symbols and text. AI does not do this.

Just the last couple of years that publicly available systems reached a level that private systems were at a decade ago*

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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2022, 01:45:19 AM »
It's a good thing we're talking about sharp, well-defined pictures with huge amounts of text text in them. Otherwise, secretagent69's comment might come across as irrelevant and desperate.



It's also a good thing it didn't accidentally find an ancient Sith lightsaber on Korriban. That really wouldn't fit the narrative.

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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2022, 03:21:49 AM »
It's also a good thing it didn't accidentally find an ancient Sith lightsaber on Korriban. That really wouldn't fit the narrative.


Meh.  Lightsaber, sample tube.  Same difference.
https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-perseverance-rover-sample-tubes-lightsabers
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2022, 01:52:35 PM »
Meh.  Lightsaber, sample tube.  Same difference.
https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-perseverance-rover-sample-tubes-lightsabers
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2022, 04:04:21 PM »
It's also a good thing it didn't accidentally find an ancient Sith lightsaber on Korriban. That really wouldn't fit the narrative.


Meh.  Lightsaber, sample tube.  Same difference.
https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-perseverance-rover-sample-tubes-lightsabers


Looks like the NASA editing department forgot again to remove shiny objects from their filming studio landscapes, which are of course dead giveaways and evidence for a space travel conspiracy / Mars rover conspiracy.

   
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2022, 05:52:55 PM »
Meh.  Lightsaber, sample tube.  Same difference.
https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-perseverance-rover-sample-tubes-lightsabers
But of course. As is typical of RE'ers, an ad-hoc explanation must be presented.
And, as typical of FE'ers, that explanation (no matter how reasonable) must be hand waved away.
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2022, 11:36:10 PM »
And, as typical of FE'ers, that explanation (no matter how reasonable) must be hand waved away.
Hand-waved? Not at all. It's just strange that a magical lightsaber showed up in these very legitimate photos, and its existence was only retconned in after people pointed out that it looked strange.
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2023, 01:23:57 AM »
And, as typical of FE'ers, that explanation (no matter how reasonable) must be hand waved away.
Hand-waved? Not at all. It's just strange that a magical lightsaber showed up in these very legitimate photos, and its existence was only retconned in after people pointed out that it looked strange.
Or, maybe what's strange is that it's just an odd coincidence that the sample tubes bear a passing resemblance to a light saber.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/a-martian-roundtrip-nasas-perseverance-rover-sample-tubes
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2023, 02:45:18 AM »
Or, maybe what's strange is that it's just an odd coincidence that the sample tubes bear a passing resemblance to a light saber.
Ah, yes, now that there's a webpage on the Internet saying the same thing you've claimed, all doubt is out the window.
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2023, 03:23:01 AM »
And, as typical of FE'ers, that explanation (no matter how reasonable) must be hand waved away.
Hand-waved? Not at all. It's just strange that a magical lightsaber showed up in these very legitimate photos, and its existence was only retconned in after people pointed out that it looked strange.


As mentioned, it may not be that these magical lightsabers "showed up" in these photos...it may be that these objects were accidentally laying around the studio set when NASA were faking these Mars photos and so these objects ended up in the pictures; NASA editing department likely missed this and forgot to remove the objects from the studio set.


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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2023, 03:58:27 AM »
Or, maybe what's strange is that it's just an odd coincidence that the sample tubes bear a passing resemblance to a light saber.
Ah, yes, now that there's a webpage on the Internet saying the same thing you've claimed, all doubt is out the window.
Strange how that works, isn't it?
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2023, 12:58:22 PM »
Strange how that works, isn't it?
This is your second reminder that you've stumbled outside of AR and need to behave accordingly. There won't be a third.
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2023, 03:37:21 PM »
And, as typical of FE'ers, that explanation (no matter how reasonable) must be hand waved away.
Hand-waved? Not at all. It's just strange that a magical lightsaber showed up in these very legitimate photos, and its existence was only retconned in after people pointed out that it looked strange.

Why are you so sad that NASA is protecting people from a Sith invasion?
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2023, 06:13:11 AM »
It's a good thing we're talking about sharp, well-defined pictures with huge amounts of text text in them. Otherwise, secretagent69's comment might come across as irrelevant and desperate.





Yep. Sure is a good thing!
Reminder that these are constantly posted minutes apart 24/7.
If we’re suggesting it’s secret gubment AI, well we run into both the problem of the data set that would need to exist for this, as well as the logistics of such a thing being kept secret.

Not to mention - Rushy, if they had incredibly perfect AI that had been developed in secret for years, I assure you they wouldn’t use it for something as harmless as some rover pictures.
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Re: Who makes these images?
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2023, 06:22:08 AM »
Why are you so sad that NASA is protecting people from a Sith invasion?

They’re choosing to believe that the sample return tube is this sudden unexpected thing that had to be quickly explained. The rover was known to be designed to do this for years.

Early publications regarding Perseverance explain in high detail the sample tubes.

Published on December 22, 2020:

“Made chiefly of titanium, each sample tube weighs less than 2 ounces (57 grams). A white exterior coating guards against heating by the Sun potentially changing the chemical composition of the samples after Perseverance deposits the tubes on the surface of Mars. Laser-etched serial numbers on the exterior will help the team identify the tubes and their content.”


Ah, yes, now that there's a webpage on the Internet saying the same thing you've claimed, all doubt is out the window.

The contention in this particular instance is not on the tubes themselves but the claim that they are “ad-hoc”.

But of course. As is typical of RE'ers, an ad-hoc explanation must be presented.

Suggesting that it’s just a sudden ad-hoc explanation suggests that the tubes are an expected artifact of the images to be explained, when this isn’t the case. It was already known what they look like since 2020.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2023, 06:29:11 AM by secretagent10 »