[markjo]

Imagine being an utter dick, incapable of reading.

Imagine not feeling the need to resort to personal attacks every time someone disagrees with you.

[Action80]

Imagine being an utter dick, incapable of reading.

Imagine not feeling the need to resort to personal attacks every time someone disagrees with you.

Okay, ilk.

[Lord Dave]

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/10/1162612886/covid-origins-bill

[Tom Bishop]

It appears that the major outlets are now publishing opinions and recommendations for most people not to get the boosters. Quite the change from 2021 and 2022 where it was considered misinformation to tell people not to take the vaccine.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/berenson-fiercest-vaccine-advocates-are-starting-admit-truth-about-mrnas

[stack]

[Lord Dave]

It appears that the major outlets are now publishing opinions and recommendations for most people not to get the boosters. Quite the change from 2021 and 2022 where it was considered misinformation to tell people not to take the vaccine.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/berenson-fiercest-vaccine-advocates-are-starting-admit-truth-about-mrnas

I thought the vaccines were a way to murder and/or control everyone and therefore would never be allowed to change that narrative of getting boosters.

Tell us, Tom.  Why did the powers decide to change things?

[Tom Bishop]

Your denialism did this.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/who-warns-of-unusual-surge-in-severe-myocarditis-in-babies_5271536.html

[Lord Dave]

Your denialism did this.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/who-warns-of-unusual-surge-in-severe-myocarditis-in-babies_5271536.html

https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2023-DON465

How so?

Between June 2022 and April 2023, ten hospitalised neonates with a positive enterovirus Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test were found to have myocarditis. Seven of the ten cases had further subtyping, with either coxsackie B3 or coxsackie B4 identified. As of 5 May 2023, one patient was still hospitalised, and one had died.

10 neonatal babies in a whole year!  And how is that related to the millions of babies born to vaccinated mothers?

[Tom Bishop]

It should be close to 0 babies. And only a selected number were looked at in a specific area. The sound of alarm is legitimate.

It was more like 15 newborns that the WHO looked at, who were below a certain age limit and from certain areas:

https://tapnewswire.com/2023/05/two-uk-babies-dead-from-myocarditis-total-of-16-babies-developed-severe-myocarditis-in-wales-england-eight-ended-up-in-intensive-care/



This article says that there were others with myocarditis that were not included, so it is unclear how many there really are or how selective the WHO study was:

[Tom Bishop]

CDC data shows that excess mortality between ages 0-44 continued to rise even as Covid Mortality declined. Doctors #Baffled

https://twitter.com/TexasLindsay_/status/1690133677450125312

[ichoosereality]

CDC data shows that excess mortality between ages 0-44 continued to rise even as Covid Mortality declined. Doctors #Baffled

https://twitter.com/TexasLindsay_/status/1690133677450125312

No idea where that data is sourced from.  Here is a site where you can put in what ages/states you want to see using CDC data and for 0-24 year olds for the entire US it shows going up starting 2020 but being flat and coming down in 2023.
https://www.usmortality.com/excess-mortality/percentage. (the attach didn't work for me but just go and play with it yourself).

[Tom Bishop]

No idea where that data is sourced from.

Did you try checking the image to see if it referenced the organization and url for the data?

[ichoosereality]

No idea where that data is sourced from.

Did you try checking the image to see if it referenced the organization and url for the data?

The source I offered does not offer the filtering options in the url.  I can download and then attach that image file but I could not see how to reference the attached file in an img src=... . 

[Action80]

No idea where that data is sourced from.

Did you try checking the image to see if it referenced the organization and url for the data?

The source I offered does not offer the filtering options in the url.  I can download and then attach that image file but I could not see how to reference the attached file in an img src=... .

The data Tom provided comes from the CDC/NCHS.

[Lord Dave]

No idea where that data is sourced from.

Did you try checking the image to see if it referenced the organization and url for the data?

Why us it gathering US and UK only data?

[ichoosereality]

No idea where that data is sourced from.

Did you try checking the image to see if it referenced the organization and url for the data?

The source I offered does not offer the filtering options in the url.  I can download and then attach that image file but I could not see how to reference the attached file in an img src=... .

The data Tom provided comes from the CDC/NCHS.

The wonder.cdc.gov site offers a vast number of options of what to include and what to exclude from a generated chart.  The X (aka twitter) post Tom linked to is not clear enough to determine what they all were (or at least my attempts and cutting/pasting/squinting did not succeed).

[Tom Bishop]

No idea where that data is sourced from.

Did you try checking the image to see if it referenced the organization and url for the data?

Why us it gathering US and UK only data?

The CDC and NCHS only collects data for their respective countries. However, this seems to be a worldwide trend.

Japan -

https://slaynews.com/news/japan-records-highest-excess-deaths-since-wwii-officials-demand-truth/



Australia -

https://pennybutler.com/australia-records-highest-excess-deaths-since-wwii/

Australia Records Highest Excess Deaths Since WWII

'Australia is experiencing its highest mortality rate in over 80 years, our “reward” for obeying the “the Health Advice”. Yesterday, Senator Babet moved a motion to create a select community to “examine the high rate of unexplained excess deaths in Australia”. Speeches by Senators Babet, Antic, Rennick, Roberts, and Canavan.'

Oddly, the countries which rank lowest in vaccine doses had the least excess mortality.

https://national-conservative.com/bulgaria-romania-rank-lowest-in-vax-doses-and-excess-mortality/

[Lord Dave]

The source of the graphs:
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic?s=20

He seems to have drawn a conclusion that its the vaccines causing it yet also seems to admit to having no data on what is causing it.

[Tom Bishop]

Coincidence is the #1 killer of vaccine poster boys.

https://twitter.com/_aussie17/status/1710512436728725614

[Roundy]

Coincidence is the #1 killer of vaccine poster boys.

https://twitter.com/_aussie17/status/1710512436728725614

Kinda an overused trope, conspiracy theorists insisting that coincidences are never really coincidences. Trite and boring. I guess I should expect it from you by now but it's still disappointing. *yawn*