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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is beyond the south pole?
« on: November 28, 2021, 04:19:51 PM »
There's a lot of video on the net of UFOs going near volcanoes, missile silos, nuclear power plants, and even hanging out at the Japan meltdown in an attemp to help deradiate the region IMO.   

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is on the other side?
« on: November 27, 2021, 09:45:40 PM »
Stack I'm sorry I don't have anything more to contribute at this time.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is on the other side?
« on: November 27, 2021, 07:34:04 PM »
Stack, hear where I'm at and correct me if I'm wrong.  The Himawari 8 satellite is so high in the sky that it can take an entire shot of the Eastern Hemisphere in one shot.

And if the world is round, that's all you can ever ask a satellite to do.

But if the Earth is flat, then is it not conceivable that the Himawari isn't high enough to capture both the Eastern and Western Hemispheres in one shot?

However, if the Himawari is above the Glossy Dome Exosphere, then technically it might have a chance at capturing the Sun at night if they turned there satellite South at Midnight Australia time, because with the absence of a Dome over there heads, the Sun should not Set due to refraction.  This would prove the Sun hovers over a flat plane and is not hidden behind the Earth. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is on the other side?
« on: November 27, 2021, 07:02:31 PM »
If its GeoStationary that means it always orbits above Japan/Austalia.  They cannot capture the entire Earth without a Composite.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is on the other side?
« on: November 27, 2021, 11:08:26 AM »
The satellite may be to close to earth to capture a large field view which may be necessary to see a big big earth. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is on the other side?
« on: November 27, 2021, 02:54:47 AM »
I don't mistrust the images.  It's about 1/10th the distance to the moon so it's still very close by flat earth standards.  (Sorry for the late response I was gathering details)


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is on the other side?
« on: November 27, 2021, 12:30:09 AM »
This was obtained using the AKARI infrared satellite.   Like visible images in space, Infrared Telescopes use mirrors and lenses to capture Radiation from Celestial Objects that are produced from Heat and then uses a computer to translate that Radiation data into a visible image - Thats just a basic understanding I just read.

As an aside, they need to operate in very dry and cool temperatures at almost absolute zero via atmosphere and coolant systems in order to detect heat radiation from sky objects without picking up heat "noise" from the telescope or surrounding environment.  This particular satellite used to orbit at very high altitudes to avoid the warm atmosphere of earth before its coolant ran out.  Neat stuff. 


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is beyond the south pole?
« on: November 26, 2021, 09:30:54 PM »
It's in the news...   

1) CNN:  "8 takeaways from the government's big UFO report" - June 28, 2021
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/27/politics/ufos-uap-extraterrestrial-life/index.html

2) In a 4 July 2021 article in "The Hill" titled "Dem Lawmaker calls for hearings on UFOs"

"Rep. Andre Carson (D-Ind), Chairman of the House Intelligence sub-committee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence and Counter proliferation, is calling on Congress to hold a "series of Hearings" on reported UFOs following last month's highly anticipated intelligence report on the subject...

"If it is off-worldly, we have to take into account our advancements in terms of cellphone technology and why aren't these images being captured? Carson said. "We have to think about the nearly 4,000 satellites that are orbiting the Earth right now. Most of these satellites have cameras attached to them. Why hasn't any of that information been released?"
https://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com/2021/07/us-congressional-hearings-on-uap-some.html

3)  ABC: "Pentagon announces new team to investigate UFO sightings after influx of reports" - Wednesday, November 24, 2021
https://abc7news.com/ufo-news-pentagon-team/11268798/

Beyond the Government literature, there's a ton of Info on UFO's...  Many are spotted near Fresh Water like the Polar Oceans to refuel their Hydrogen Reactors or something.   And the military has said many times UAPS go near Nuclear Plants and Missile Silo's sometimes shutting them down. 

Who they are is subject to speculation, but Admiral Byrd speaking with such occupants is not surprising to me...if he really said that anyway.  It just goes to show that there's still a lot of stuff unexplored.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is beyond the south pole?
« on: November 26, 2021, 08:03:44 PM »
I don't know about Admiral Byrd's Hollow Earth Theory but his statements about other-worldly beings with flying craft is probably a reference to UFO's and their inhabitants.  There's definitely been a connection with atomic energy and UFO activity and the US Gov't is going full forward on Acknowledging these craft exist and trying to determine who's flying them. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is on the other side?
« on: November 26, 2021, 07:51:04 PM »
I can't help posting another pic of a similar Galaxy called NGC 4217.   These are its magnetic field lines.


"Stunning image of Milky Way-like galaxy's X-shaped magnetic field captured in new radio study- Technology News, Firstpost" https://www.firstpost.com/tech/science/stunning-image-of-milky-way-like-galaxys-x-shaped-magnetic-field-captured-in-new-radio-study-8644821.html

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is on the other side?
« on: November 26, 2021, 04:45:15 PM »
So, I believe a Flat Earth shares many of the same properties of a Round Earth.  That includes a hot central body made of Lava.  I also think Flat Earths or similar structures are located at the center of galaxies and are a galaxy unto themselves (in much smaller sizes of course).

From this point of view, I've looked for evidence of what's on the other side of a Flat Earth by looking at photos of galaxies and both sides of its Galactic Plane.  So far, its inconclusive. I find equal evidence that one side of a Galaxy is the same as the other like in traditional "Black Hole" theory, rather than there being one Habitable Side with a rocky underbelly or another variation with Two Habitable Sides etc.

Here's some of my findings:


https://astrobites.org/2016/03/30/double-bubble-galaxy/

These are two "Fermi Bubbles" which are large amounts of Heat or Gas that is emanated from the center of galaxies.  Traditional science suggests it could be Old or New Stars in the past or the accretion and heating up of matter caused by a Black Hole.  I hear the word "Star" heat and "Accretion" heat and think perhaps one bubble is created by a central Star or Sun and another by Exposed lava.  This would make the Fermi Bubbles part of the "Dome" we see on earth and on other Worlds.

Here's another photo of the Milky Way Galaxy with Heat Seeking Infrared Cameras.  You can almost see a star at one end and a hot disc below it.  However, the "sun" I propose in this photo is actually opposite the side I had assumed the Habitat was on so take my findings with some hesitation. 


https://www.scientificamerican.com/gallery/the-milky-way-in-infrared/












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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Problems with the FE sun
« on: November 21, 2021, 06:04:21 PM »
If the dome did consist of a thick opaque metallic substance, in order to reflect light, would it
not also reflect (or deflect) the radio waves we're allegedly picking up from distant stars? It'd
be like a Faraday cage would it not?

Thats a really good point...I pulled some info below which suggests its possible?

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What Is A Faraday Cage?
A Faraday Cage (Shield) can be described as an enclosure created by conducting materials that blocks external electric fields (both static and non-static).  These shields – cages can be used to protect different kinds of electronic equipment from electrostatic discharges. They can’t block magnetic fields like Earth’s magnetic field, but they can protect the interior from electromagnetic radiation coming from the outside.
http://www.faradaycage.org/
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Astronomical objects that have a changing magnetic field can produce radio waves.
Radio Waves | Science Mission Directorate

science.nasa.gov/ems/05_radiowaves

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Problems with the FE sun
« on: November 21, 2021, 05:19:36 PM »
Is that glass solid? As in, it’s a solid hemisphere of glass? If so then that surely has significantly different optical properties than the FE dome which sits over and above the earth and the atmosphere.

For my example, its a solid glass dome.

In reality, I think the Dome itself is the Atmosphere shaped like a Dome.

 Around the very edges of the Dome or Exosphere may be compressed Hydrogen which "Theorists have long predicted that extreme pressures combined with mild temperatures should cause hydrogen to turn the normally clear gas into a glossy, grayish, metallic solid."  This would give the Dome its reflective properties. 

This in addition to the properties and behavior of the atmosphere we get the various lighting effects we see on earth.  The answer is usually "all of the above" IME.

Hydrogen Article:  http://www.utahpeoplespost.com/2016/01/physicists-solid-metallic-hydrogen/


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Problems with the FE sun
« on: November 21, 2021, 04:05:42 PM »
Kangaroo, the 1st image is the same setup as the second image, except the first one has a glass magnifying dome on top and the second does not.  Its the same flat map as well, except the glass dome cuts off the outer edges and perhaps gives it an illusion of sphericity.  Thats also the Map I use for my FE Theory albeit with slight modifications.

As for the Dome's composition, you were right about the "Grey Fog" contribution and how it can eliminate light.  I'd say one reason you cannot see the Sun all around the flat world is because the near atmosphere interferes with images at a certain angle and distance -"Water vapor, clouds, moisture, and other weather-associated winds all are found within this layer: (https://planetseducation.com/5-layers-of-the-atmosphere/#:~:text=The%20atmospheric%20layers%20start%20from%20the%20ground%20level,%2812%20-50%20km%29%20or%20%287%20to%2031%20miles%29")

That and of course the "Dome" light bending affect.

Here's a photo of the different layers of atmosphere if your interested.  The top of the Dome I'm suggesting reaches as high as the Exosphere, before you reach the Sun/Moon and other bodies.  MY EDITS ARE IN YELLOW



Photo source:  https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Eu_Pi2Pi1ok/VP5hiC6o7dI/AAAAAAAABS4/AGFc3m5TQ6c/s1600/Atmosphere%2BLevels.jpg



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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Problems with the FE sun
« on: November 21, 2021, 02:39:41 PM »
Yes its a solid magnifying glass... 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Problems with the FE sun
« on: November 21, 2021, 11:40:16 AM »
Hi Kangaroony,

I personally like the idea of there being a Dome or Thick Atmosphere above the earth which helps explain a lot of the lighting anomalies we see on a Flat Earth.  See the picture below of Melbourne and Perth with and without a Dome.  You'll notice the dramatic edges it creates with the sunlight.






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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Stars above the night sky
« on: November 17, 2021, 01:17:48 PM »
Thanks Trillion.  I'm on it.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Stars above the night sky
« on: November 17, 2021, 11:30:47 AM »
I'm using Stellarium.com to try and understand the movements and relative movements of of Steller objects.  It's a bit tedious but if I find something compelling I'll let you know!

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: I Can Prove Earth Curvature
« on: November 15, 2021, 08:03:45 PM »
I'm taking about the height of land, not it's distance.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: I Can Prove Earth Curvature
« on: November 15, 2021, 11:33:20 AM »
Hi gwrox007,

I'm not an expert in any sense with land measurement.  The only argument I can make for FE is that any "assumptions" you make when calculating long distance would need to be questioned.  Such as - is the horizon level actually level or is there some kind of distortion we haven't accounted for.

And using your 8inch per mile formula, is it possible the original formula you were given is off and this merely corrects for that.

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