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Re: Trump
« Reply #7760 on: December 17, 2020, 06:19:35 PM »

Trump won.


Except for the 59 and counting times he's lost.

Incorrect. List them out with a source showing who made the lawsuit and its subject.

The fraud lawsuits have been winning and continue to win. Judges granting audits, moving cases into discovery and suggesting trial dates.

https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/14/breaking-michigan-judge-orders-release-of-audit-report-on-dominion-voting-machines/amp/

"The judge further ordered that the case move to the discovery phase and mentioned the case could go to trial by April of 2021."

https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/16/federal-judge-gives-dr-shiva-win-denies-states-request-to-dismiss-election-lawsuit/amp/

"The state argued that in addition to the procedure problems, Dr. Shiva’s case is moot because Massachusetts has already certified its vote; therefore, Shiva’s attempt to stop certification is too late. But Judge Wolf disagreed, suggesting that Shiva’s case may not be moot because in the case of 'exceptional circumstances,' the court posses the power to decertify the election results."





Well, a redacted report was already released.  What did it say?  Because it sounds like a whole lot of nothing.
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« Reply #7761 on: December 17, 2020, 06:21:29 PM »

Trump won.


Except for the 59 and counting times he's lost.

Incorrect. List them out with a source showing who made the lawsuit and its subject.

Did that above, at #7683.  I stopped after half a dozen or so, and asked if I should go on. You didn't appear to respond.

Want me to list some more? They're all at democracydocket.com, and listed in Marc Elias' twitter feed. I make that around 60 losses for Trump, his team and associates including the one below.

Another one where Trump or his team lost was settled on 8 Dec and filed today. Georgia Southern District Court, Civil Action No. 1:20-cv-00180-JRH-BKE

Motions to dismiss by Georgia State Election Board and others GRANTED, and Plaintiff's Complaint DISMISSED
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7762 on: December 17, 2020, 06:26:20 PM »

Trump won.


Except for the 59 and counting times he's lost.

Incorrect. List them out with a source showing who made the lawsuit and its subject.

The fraud lawsuits have been winning and continue to win. Judges granting audits, moving cases into discovery and suggesting trial dates.


Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election#Counts

List just shy of 59.  OH NO!!!!

TRUMP WON!!!!!

Actually there are only 12 lawsuits brought on by Trump in that list.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7763 on: December 17, 2020, 06:29:38 PM »
Actually there are only 12 lawsuits brought on by Trump in that list.

Yes, some of them were brought by his team of lawyers, his associates, and/or his supporters ON HIS BEHALF.

They lost.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7764 on: December 17, 2020, 06:35:14 PM »
Actually there are only 12 lawsuits brought on by Trump in that list.

Yes, some of them were brought by his team of lawyers, his associates, and/or his supporters ON HIS BEHALF.

They lost.

Nope. If it were a lawsuit by his campaign it would state so as the plaintiff. Looks like you are needing to make things up.
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« Reply #7765 on: December 17, 2020, 06:35:51 PM »
Incorrect. List them out with a source showing who made the lawsuit and its subject.

The fraud lawsuits have been winning and continue to win. Judges granting audits, moving cases into discovery and suggesting trial dates.

Links snipped

Those are not results. They are stages in progress.

By all means, list out the cases that Trump, his associates, supporters etc. have won
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« Reply #7766 on: December 17, 2020, 06:44:13 PM »
Actually there are only 12 lawsuits brought on by Trump in that list.

Yes, some of them were brought by his team of lawyers, his associates, and/or his supporters ON HIS BEHALF.

They lost.

Nope. If it were a lawsuit by his campaign it would state so as the plaintiff. Looks like you are needing to make things up.

I haven't made anything up. All references to the suits, I refer to "Trump's Team". As in, those in his employ, those in his campaign, those who support him, those who want results in his favour.

I really don't think they're filing suits to favour him if they're NOT on his team ... do you?
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« Reply #7767 on: December 17, 2020, 07:07:04 PM »

Trump won.


Except for the 59 and counting times he's lost.

Incorrect. List them out with a source showing who made the lawsuit and its subject.

The fraud lawsuits have been winning and continue to win. Judges granting audits, moving cases into discovery and suggesting trial dates.

https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/14/breaking-michigan-judge-orders-release-of-audit-report-on-dominion-voting-machines/amp/

"The judge further ordered that the case move to the discovery phase and mentioned the case could go to trial by April of 2021."

This case has nothing to do with presidential election directly. A judge deciding that a case surround a vote decided by one ballot with 3 damaged ballots perhaps adjudicated badly doesn’t mean “widespread fraud!” Not even close. Furthermore, the case will still have to survive a motion to dismiss.

The Antrim county hand recount as part of their audit is currently happening and should be completed today or tomorrow.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7768 on: December 17, 2020, 09:11:59 PM »
The Antrim County hand recount, as part of their audit resulted in a 12 vote gain for Trump. Once again, the Dominion Voting Machine conspiracy proves to be filled with pure crap.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/17/antrim-county-audit-shows-12-vote-gain-trump/3938988001/
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7769 on: December 17, 2020, 09:43:34 PM »
Trump won.
Not according to the popular vote.
Or the electoral college.
Or the Attorney General.
Or 60 judges, some of whom are Republicans.
Or the Supreme Court, 3 of whom were Trump appointed. Remember how you got all excited about Trump taking things to the SCOTUS because you thought they’d do whatever he said? That didn’t go so well.

But hey, you can keep furiously Googling and looking at your right wing conspiracy sites and denying reality if you must.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7770 on: December 17, 2020, 09:47:06 PM »
Trump won.
Or 60 judges, some of whom are Republicans.


Most actually. 38 of the 71 judges who presided over cases relating to the presidential election were Republicans.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7771 on: December 18, 2020, 01:53:03 AM »
The password!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55337192

lolz

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« Reply #7772 on: December 18, 2020, 02:41:47 PM »
The Antrim County hand recount, as part of their audit resulted in a 12 vote gain for Trump. Once again, the Dominion Voting Machine conspiracy proves to be filled with pure crap.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/17/antrim-county-audit-shows-12-vote-gain-trump/3938988001/

Wrong.

The content in this story is false or misleading and suggests that there were very minor discrepancies found. This is incorrect. The hand recount in Antrim didn't show minor discrepancies from the original reported results on election day. It showed major discrepancies. The county originally declared that Biden won in Antrim county, but that was later revised to declare that Trump won, and a hand recount showed the original election claim to be false.

Recount Confirms Trump Won Michigan County That Reported Biden Win on Election Night

https://m.theepochtimes.com/recount-confirms-trump-won-michigan-county-that-reported-biden-win-on-election-night_3624020.html

"A hand recount on Wednesday confirmed that a Michigan county falsely reported on election night a win for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.

The recount in Antrim County found 9,759 votes for President Donald Trump, versus 5,959 for Biden.

On Nov. 3, county officials said Biden received over 3,000 more votes than Trump. Two days later, they said Trump won by about 2,500 votes. A third change took place on Nov. 21, with Trump being certified the winner by nearly 4,000 votes.

Officials blamed the skewed results on human error.

Antrim County uses Dominion Voting Systems machines and software."

Here is another source which reported that there were significant discrepancies from the original reported Antrim county election night results, which your link hides or neglects to report:

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-gary-peters-michigan-elections-dc3e16d42a27286fabc5b3e92386d7af

"BELLAIRE, Mich. (AP) — President Donald Trump didn’t win Michigan, but he can put a small county in the victory column after an unusual second look at the results.

Trump defeated Joe Biden in Antrim County, getting 56% of the vote, according to revised totals posted Thursday. Republican John James was the favorite in the Senate race.

“It certainly makes a lot more sense with people who are familiar with Antrim County,” said Jeremy Scott, deputy county administrator.

Questions were raised after the county first reported a local landslide for Biden, a Democrat, in an area that usually votes Republican. Officials acknowledged the results seemed “skewed” and promised a second look. More than 16,000 votes were cast."
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« Reply #7773 on: December 18, 2020, 03:01:48 PM »
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/12/trump-betting-markets-sportsbooks-offshore-2020-election-gambling.html

The funniest thing about this article is that at least one betting site appears to still be making money off of gullible Republicans who still think Trump has a chance at winning, a month and a half after he lost.  ;D
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« Reply #7774 on: December 18, 2020, 03:16:12 PM »
The Antrim County hand recount, as part of their audit resulted in a 12 vote gain for Trump. Once again, the Dominion Voting Machine conspiracy proves to be filled with pure crap.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/17/antrim-county-audit-shows-12-vote-gain-trump/3938988001/

Wrong.

The content in this story is false or misleading and suggests that there were very minor discrepancies found. This is incorrect. The hand recount in Antrim didn't show minor discrepancies from the original reported results on election day. It showed major discrepancies. The country originally declared that Biden won in Antrim county, but that was later revised to declare that Trump won, and a hand recount showed the original election claim to be false.

Recount Confirms Trump Won Michigan County That Reported Biden Win on Election Night

https://m.theepochtimes.com/recount-confirms-trump-won-michigan-county-that-reported-biden-win-on-election-night_3624020.html

"A hand recount on Wednesday confirmed that a Michigan county falsely reported on election night a win for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.

The recount in Antrim County found 9,759 votes for President Donald Trump, versus 5,959 for Biden.

On Nov. 3, county officials said Biden received over 3,000 more votes than Trump. Two days later, they said Trump won by about 2,500 votes. A third change took place on Nov. 21, with Trump being certified the winner by nearly 4,000 votes.

Officials blamed the skewed results on human error.

Antrim County uses Dominion Voting Systems machines and software."

Here is another source which reported that there were significant discrepancies from the original reported Antrim county election night results, which your link hides or neglects to report:

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-gary-peters-michigan-elections-dc3e16d42a27286fabc5b3e92386d7af

"BELLAIRE, Mich. (AP) — President Donald Trump didn’t win Michigan, but he can put a small county in the victory column after an unusual second look at the results.

Trump defeated Joe Biden in Antrim County, getting 56% of the vote, according to revised totals posted Thursday. Republican John James was the favorite in the Senate race.

“It certainly makes a lot more sense with people who are familiar with Antrim County,” said Jeremy Scott, deputy county administrator.

Questions were raised after the county first reported a local landslide for Biden, a Democrat, in an area that usually votes Republican. Officials acknowledged the results seemed “skewed” and promised a second look. More than 16,000 votes were cast."


From the same article....

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Jonathan Brater, Michigan’s director of elections, who works out of Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson’s office, responded by alleging the audit report did not explain its allegations about the voting system’s “intentional” design.

“Although a more detailed analysis of the report must be conducted with an individual with technical expertise, it is apparent to me that the report makes a series of unsupported conclusions, ascribes motives of fraud and obfuscation to processes that are easily explained as routine election procedures or error corrections, and suggests without explanation that elements of election software not used in Michigan are somehow responsible for tabulation or reporting errors that are either nonexistent or easily explained,” he wrote in a court filing.

Something tells me the report is BS.
If you have a link to the actual report, let me know. 
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« Reply #7775 on: December 18, 2020, 03:51:48 PM »
The Antrim County hand recount, as part of their audit resulted in a 12 vote gain for Trump. Once again, the Dominion Voting Machine conspiracy proves to be filled with pure crap.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/17/antrim-county-audit-shows-12-vote-gain-trump/3938988001/

Wrong.

Wrong. Here's what went down in Antrim County:

"On election night, the county's unofficial results showed Biden winning the county, a GOP stronghold. The next morning, Antrim County Clerk Sheryl Guy was first alerted to the error and the clerk's staff began manually reviewing the vote totals contained on the tape from the tabulators.

Guy, who is a Republican, said that after learning some candidates in local races were omitted from the ballot, she needed to update the ballot information stored on media drives attached to the tabulating machines. But she mistakenly made the changes only in some precincts, instead of all of them, leading to mismatched data when the unofficial countywide tallies were being compiled, and an inaccurate report of the unofficial results, Guy and Benson have said. The tabulators accurately read voters' ballots, they said.

A report concerning Antrim's tabulators, written by a former Texas Republican congressional candidate and manager at the Dallas-based Allied Security Operations Group, attempted to show otherwise.
The report written by Russell James Ramsland Jr. followed three separate affidavits he wrote with inaccurate Michigan turnout statistics filed in support of lawsuits brought by Trump allies.

Jonathan Brater, Michigan's director of elections, said Ramsland's report on Antrim County made "a series of unsupported conclusions."

Ryan Macias, the former head of voting system testing and certification at the Election Assistance Commission, said, "The majority of the findings are false and misleading due to the fact that the entities reviewing the system lack knowledge and expertise in election technology.”  The EAC certified the voting system used in Antrim County in September 2018. EAC certification, which is voluntary, establishes certain error thresholds for the computer code that runs the systems.

Macias said Ramsland mistook the tabulator’s settings to detect ordinary problems with ballots, such as a voter incorrectly marking the ballot or voting for more than the allowed number of candidates, with errors with the tabulator.

“Calling these an error would be synonymous with stating that you reviewed a car’s logs and for each instance the gas light turned on we will call it an error," Macias said.

Just as a properly functioning car alerts a driver when the car needs more gas, a properly functioning tabulator flags ballots as needed.

Ramsland claims the voting system used in Antrim does not comply with federal law. No such law applies. And he suggests that the county used adjudication software it does not have, Brater and Macias said.

The hand tally of the votes cast in the presidential election in Antrim proved that the county's certified election results accurately reflect the will of its voters."


https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/17/antrim-county-hand-tally-certified-election-results/3937898001/

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« Reply #7776 on: December 18, 2020, 04:00:05 PM »
“The hand recount matches the certified results! FRAUD!”
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« Reply #7777 on: December 18, 2020, 04:27:21 PM »
It doesn't matter what you guys say; Tom will always have another anecdote or factoid to throw at you. The only thing that will settle this will be Biden's inauguration.
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« Reply #7778 on: December 18, 2020, 04:31:25 PM »
The only thing that will settle this will be Biden's inauguration.

Nope.
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« Reply #7779 on: December 18, 2020, 04:59:44 PM »
It'll at least settle the question of whether or not Biden will be the president. Of course we'll have a new conspiracy theory afterwards, but we'll be spared the triumphant crowing about how Trump has this in the bag and Biden is getting CUCKED come January 20th.
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