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« Reply #6840 on: November 13, 2020, 09:21:13 PM »
A clerical error has nothing to do with the practice of entering a placeholder birthdate as a matter of policy.

They acknowledge that the dead Bradley with that birthday and zip code from 1902 exists.

What do you imagine happened? They were typing the information in for the living Bradley, had a list of dead people open for another project, and accidentally typed in the dead Bradley's information into the fields? Quite a stretch.

Just more evidence against you.

Sooo... you found 1 error.  Just one.
All without knowing WHO they voted for.  And since only ONE existed (not both) then a clerical error is the most likely of cases.  But again, it was one.  So lets throw that out and see if Trump still lost...

Seriously, if this was massive, you shoudl have 5,000 videos of 5,000 different people and mistakes.
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6841 on: November 13, 2020, 10:14:20 PM »
A clerical error has nothing to do with the practice of entering a placeholder birthdate as a matter of policy.

They acknowledge that the dead Bradley with that birthday and zip code from 1902 exists.

What do you imagine happened? They were typing the information in for the living Bradley, had a list of dead people open for another project, and accidentally typed in the dead Bradley's information into the fields? Quite a stretch.

Just more evidence against you.

Sooo... you found 1 error.  Just one.
All without knowing WHO they voted for.  And since only ONE existed (not both) then a clerical error is the most likely of cases.  But again, it was one.  So lets throw that out and see if Trump still lost...

Seriously, if this was massive, you shoudl have 5,000 videos of 5,000 different people and mistakes.

People are finding thousands of these. Screenshots, videos, raw data, links, references

https://twitter.com/fleccas?lang=en - Scroll through this history back to election day.

In September it was found that hundreds of thousands of dead people were on the rolls.

Election Watchdog Finds 350,000 Dead Voters on the Rolls - https://pjmedia.com/election/rick-moran/2020/09/23/election-watchdog-finds-350000-dead-voters-on-the-rolls-n959428

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6842 on: November 13, 2020, 10:15:55 PM »
And yet...
All the law suits Trump’s team are filing are getting laughed out of court.
It’s weird, isn’t it?
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6843 on: November 13, 2020, 10:38:12 PM »
And yet...
All the law suits Trump’s team are filing are getting laughed out of court.
It’s weird, isn’t it?

It's the Deep State, man.
Dr. Frank is a physicist. He says it's impossible. So it's impossible.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6844 on: November 13, 2020, 10:39:22 PM »
There are lots of dead people on voter rolls, it's true, a lot more than a few 100,000, most estimates are around 1.8M.  They are there because someone hasn't gone through and deleted them all.  Whenever they look in to the number of dead people who actually voted.  Not videos on Fleccas Talks twitter, but actual investigation, the amount of votes cast by dead people is vanishingly small.  The number that aren't caught by audits, etc... are even smaller.  It's a non-issue that Trump has tried to make in to something and people like Tom parrot because they desperately can't admit they lost.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6845 on: November 13, 2020, 10:46:00 PM »
A clerical error has nothing to do with the practice of entering a placeholder birthdate as a matter of policy.

They acknowledge that the dead Bradley with that birthday and zip code from 1902 exists.

What do you imagine happened? They were typing the information in for the living Bradley, had a list of dead people open for another project, and accidentally typed in the dead Bradley's information into the fields? Quite a stretch.

Just more evidence against you.

Sooo... you found 1 error.  Just one.
All without knowing WHO they voted for.  And since only ONE existed (not both) then a clerical error is the most likely of cases.  But again, it was one.  So lets throw that out and see if Trump still lost...

Seriously, if this was massive, you shoudl have 5,000 videos of 5,000 different people and mistakes.

People are finding thousands of these. Screenshots, videos, raw data, links, references

https://twitter.com/fleccas?lang=en - Scroll through this history back to election day.

In September it was found that hundreds of thousands of dead people were on the rolls.

Election Watchdog Finds 350,000 Dead Voters on the Rolls - https://pjmedia.com/election/rick-moran/2020/09/23/election-watchdog-finds-350000-dead-voters-on-the-rolls-n959428

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So ControlC can just type stuff on a website and its fact for you?  Does that work for me too?

So in your first link I'm just gonna go through a few names.

(https://justpaste.it/8zt04)
Elizabeth Allen - 1872 is not a valid year for the site. But 1922 works.  I wonder why...

https://www.whitepages.com/checkout/summary?wpId=Pd962dRAN9e&wp_medium=PersonContactInfoUpsell&wp_source=PersonResults&wp_term=serp_sb1&funnel_type=person_onepages_1&wp_content=cta

Oh, there we go.  There's a LIVING Elizabeth Allen in Ann Abor.    Born in... 1922!  Wow.  What a coincidence!

Lets try the next one.
Therese Davis.
https://www.whitepages.com/checkout/summary?wpId=Pl8aBN72o9b&wp_medium=PersonContactInfoUpsell&wp_source=PersonResults&wp_term=serp_sb1&funnel_type=person_onepages_1&wp_content=card

https://thatsthem.com/name/Theresa-Davis/48198
Yep.  Totally alive.

Lets look at the 3rd one.
Mary Moore
https://www.whitepages.com/name/Mary-Moore/49701?fs=1&searchedName=Mary%20Moore&searchedLocation=49701

Yep, alive.


So basically there are people who share the same name who lived in the same zip code.  And they have common names.  How curious....
For example, there are about 30 smiths.  Because Smith surely isn't a common name...

Seriously, you're entire argument is that people who live in the same location shared a name with someone who died in that zipcode?  Is that really all you have? 

Oh wait... lets see if YOU are a dead voter.
Go search to see if you voted as a dead person, Tom.
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« Reply #6846 on: November 13, 2020, 10:46:29 PM »
Trump has conceded that he might possibly perhaps end up having lost the election; this is actually progress, tragically.
Dr. Frank is a physicist. He says it's impossible. So it's impossible.
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« Reply #6847 on: November 13, 2020, 10:55:52 PM »
Trump has conceded that he might possibly perhaps end up having lost the election; this is actually progress, tragically.

Meme or it didn't happen.
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« Reply #6848 on: November 13, 2020, 11:04:27 PM »
Trump has conceded that he might possibly perhaps end up having lost the election; this is actually progress, tragically.

“ This administration will not be going to a lockdown. Hopefully the... whatever happens in the future, who knows which administration it will be, I guess time will tell - but I can tell you this administration will not go to a lockdown."

Who knows?
Everyone, Donald.
Everyone knows. Apart from maybe Tom.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6849 on: November 13, 2020, 11:09:54 PM »
So ControlC can just type stuff on a website and its fact for you?  Does that work for me too?

So in your first link I'm just gonna go through a few names.

(https://justpaste.it/8zt04)
Elizabeth Allen - 1872 is not a valid year for the site. But 1922 works.  I wonder why...

https://www.whitepages.com/checkout/summary?wpId=Pd962dRAN9e&wp_medium=PersonContactInfoUpsell&wp_source=PersonResults&wp_term=serp_sb1&funnel_type=person_onepages_1&wp_content=cta

Oh, there we go.  There's a LIVING Elizabeth Allen in Ann Abor.    Born in... 1922!  Wow.  What a coincidence!

Lets try the next one.
Therese Davis.
https://www.whitepages.com/checkout/summary?wpId=Pl8aBN72o9b&wp_medium=PersonContactInfoUpsell&wp_source=PersonResults&wp_term=serp_sb1&funnel_type=person_onepages_1&wp_content=card

https://thatsthem.com/name/Theresa-Davis/48198
Yep.  Totally alive.

Lets look at the 3rd one.
Mary Moore
https://www.whitepages.com/name/Mary-Moore/49701?fs=1&searchedName=Mary%20Moore&searchedLocation=49701

Yep, alive.


So basically there are people who share the same name who lived in the same zip code.  And they have common names.  How curious....
For example, there are about 30 smiths.  Because Smith surely isn't a common name...

Seriously, you're entire argument is that people who live in the same location shared a name with someone who died in that zipcode?  Is that really all you have? 

Oh wait... lets see if YOU are a dead voter.
Go search to see if you voted as a dead person, Tom.

Nope. You're method is flawed. Those people finder sites have dead people on them. The obituary verifies that they died. There are dead astronauts from the NASA Challenger Disaster listed on those people finder sites.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6850 on: November 13, 2020, 11:26:16 PM »
Who cares? We still need evidence the election was defrauded.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6851 on: November 14, 2020, 12:09:45 AM »
Trump literally claims it was the most secure election ever and that it was rigged in the same tweet:



File that under the truth being stranger than fiction.

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« Reply #6852 on: November 14, 2020, 12:23:56 AM »
Just saw that!

Just when you think it cant cant better than Rudy hosting a presser at the Four Seasons... Donnie comes up with this bit of wonderous wordsmithing

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« Reply #6853 on: November 14, 2020, 12:38:23 AM »
It's Orwellian. It's like he's daring his followers to keep trusting him.

Two plus two equals five.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6854 on: November 14, 2020, 12:46:04 AM »

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« Reply #6855 on: November 14, 2020, 12:50:08 AM »
Ah yes, a multi-national company with >250 employees and national offices in the US and Canada is run out of exactly that apartment.

When you google dominion voting, you get an address in Lawrence street in Denver, and their international headquarters is in Toronto...
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« Reply #6856 on: November 14, 2020, 02:04:14 AM »
Dominion Voting Systems Corp's headquarters appears to be a 1 Bedroom Apartment

https://www.eac.gov/voting-equipment/registered-manufacturers/dominion-voting-systems-corp

https://www.forrent.com/co/denver/1201-18th-st-unit-210/84sm1y1

You’re brilliant, Tom. Surely no one before you has had such piercing insight in to the veneer of this election. Finally the home of the lizard people has been revealed.

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« Reply #6857 on: November 14, 2020, 03:05:19 AM »
Pretty weird that the address leads to what appears to be an apartment. But I guess it could just be a glitch on the leasing website.

More glitches:

MI County Clerk catches glitch by hand counting vote:

One Michigan county clerk caught a glitch in tabulation software so they hand counted votes and found the glitch caused 6,000 votes to go to Biden - https://bermudapost.com/one-michigan-county-clerk-caught-a-glitch-in-tabulation-software-so-they-hand-counted-votes-and-found-the-glitch-caused

Dominion Systems hiding its ownership glitch:

Chinese parts, hidden ownership, growing scrutiny: Inside America's biggest maker of voting machines - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/chinese-parts-hidden-ownership-growing-scrutiny-inside-america-s-biggest-n1104516

"That has led to calls for ES&S and its competitors, Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems and Austin, Texas-based Hart Intercivic, to reveal details about their ownership and the origins of the parts, some of which come from China, that make up their machines."
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« Reply #6858 on: November 14, 2020, 03:16:19 AM »
Your sources are now a Bermuda newspaper and an NBC article from a year ago? I mean I'll grant you that at least. John Oliver did an entire episode of his show last year on what a mess the voting machines are across the country, and how they'd be susceptible to potential hacking.

I would agree with the last statement in the Bermuda paper as well, that ever legal vote should be counted and any instance of fraud should be rooted out. But so far, no one has provided any real evidence this has taken place (so far).

All the accusations by GOP and the snickering by Dems are pretty pointless in the grand scheme though. America has a long road ahead to getting back to greatness, and its gonna take both sides to make it work.

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« Reply #6859 on: November 14, 2020, 03:18:38 AM »
You put so much effort into finding these meaningless stories and trying to make them relevant to the conversation, Tom, good for you. You were a born conspiracy theorist.
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