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« Reply #11980 on: January 10, 2025, 06:20:33 PM »
As I wrote earlier, that conviction will get overturned on appeal.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #11981 on: January 10, 2025, 07:43:33 PM »
So, Trump has been sentence...


To nothing.  "Unconditional Discharge"
So, like all other rich people, he did something illegal and has had no penalty for it.  Not even a token fine.
There is still the status of “convicted felon” that may affect his ability to get government contracts in the future. 

Irony intended. 
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« Reply #11982 on: January 10, 2025, 08:52:24 PM »
As I wrote earlier, that conviction will get overturned on appeal.
Why?
His base seems to love it.
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« Reply #11983 on: January 11, 2025, 04:37:29 AM »
I did read the article and as I wrote earlier, it is quite obvious Raskin is totally onboard with a Trump presidency...amirite?

Raskin was not trying to or planning to block Trump's certification as president to overturn the election, as Tom's original post falsely suggested. Whether or not Raskin is enthusiastic about a Trump's presidency isn't relevant.

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Raskin said Trump was an insurrectionist. The 14th Amendment already covers this. No need for a new bill.

Section 5 of the 14th Amendment reads, "The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article." Which makes sense, as it would be very difficult to enforce specific sections of the Constitution as-is that everyone might have a different interpretation of without some sort of authority providing clarification as to how it's going to be enforced, or what it even means to be enforcing it.

You admit that Democrats in Congress were, in fact, threatening or attempting to stop the certification of Trump's victory. So there is nothing further to discuss on this matter.

I didn't "admit" that, nor did I say anything even remotely close to it. Once again, disqualifying someone from running for public office is objectively not the same thing as refusing to certify or attempting to stop the certification of an election that's already happened because you don't like the results. You might think that they're morally equivalent, but they are not the same thing in the same way that black is not white and two is not three. It's not my opinion, but an objective fact.

As for the Greenland news, again, foreign leaders don't have the luxury of telling the President of the United States to fuck off. They have to deal with him whether they like it or not, so naturally they're going to be cordial. If you're going to interpret every boilerplate "we are looking forward to working with President Trump" statement as evidence of complete and total capitulation, then you're going to be very surprised by the end of the month when Trump inexplicably isn't crowned God-Emperor of the entire world.
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« Reply #11984 on: January 11, 2025, 06:51:08 AM »
Nobody "loves" being convicted, nor do they truly love convicts.
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« Reply #11985 on: January 14, 2025, 01:23:59 PM »
 "a confidential report..."

"My Office had one north star: follow the ...law..."

Jack Smith is a lying a$$hat. He was illegally appointed and there is nothing confidential about the report.
170 odd so pages of pure bullshit.

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« Reply #11986 on: January 17, 2025, 08:03:41 PM »
Apparently Trump is so powerful that the country's problems are taking care of themselves.


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« Reply #11987 on: January 17, 2025, 09:20:33 PM »
Apparently Trump is so powerful that the country's problems are taking care of themselves.


According to Trump's Transition team, which... somehow knows this.  I'm sure their comments are entirely unbiased and in no way are made to make Trump look good.
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« Reply #11988 on: January 18, 2025, 07:23:16 PM »
So he creates a meme coin to bilk his ignorant followers just days before his inauguration...

Yep, he's a piece of shit.

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/18/trump-meme-coin-25-billion
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« Reply #11989 on: January 18, 2025, 07:33:12 PM »
Its virtually worth.  I mean, if its trading at $32/coin and he says they have a billion coins... 32 billion dollars!
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« Reply #11990 on: January 19, 2025, 08:14:28 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/19/nx-s1-5267568/tiktok-back-online

Trump has unbanned Tik Tok by declaring he won't enforce the law.
Isn't this something Republicans HATE?  The president not enforcing laws?
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« Reply #11991 on: January 19, 2025, 09:13:29 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/19/nx-s1-5267568/tiktok-back-online

Trump has unbanned Tik Tok by declaring he won't enforce the law.
Isn't this something Republicans HATE?  The president not enforcing laws?

Trump's twitter account got hacked three times.
While saying the Mueller report exonerated him and while the words "Russia Hoax" were coming out of his mouth, the Russians were exfiltrating our most secure resources through the Solarwinds hack.
He will allow TikTok to operate even though its controlling stake (the Chinese government) just plundered American Telcos of piles of personal stuff which can be used in conjunction with the piles of location and profile data collected on TikTok to surveil and manipulate people in power. This is why China doesn't allow American social media on their internet.

Is he helping our adversaries because he's an idiot or because he will share in their spoils?
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Re: Trump
« Reply #11992 on: January 19, 2025, 09:32:16 PM »
Is he helping our adversaries because he's an idiot or because he will share in their spoils?
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« Reply #11993 on: January 20, 2025, 04:01:34 AM »
You're overthinking things. What it really came down to was this - TikTok praising and flattering Trump in several different public messages. That's what Trump responds to more than anything. He doesn't believe in any ideals or hold any actual political positions of his own. He makes his decisions based on gut impulses and personal whims. That's why TikTok felt the need to glowingly refer to Trump by name in their messages, and it's why we saw people like Zelenskyy and the Greenland PM rushing to kiss Trump's ass in anticipation of him handing over Ukraine to Putin and doing something incredibly stupid and reckless to try and get control of Greenland, respectively. Trump fans undoubtedly see these public shows of fealty as a sign of Trump's strength, but in reality, it's the opposite. Someone who's this susceptible to flattery and lets their own emotions and personal feelings overrule their policy positions is not fit to be a leader.
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« Reply #11994 on: January 20, 2025, 05:59:20 AM »
You're overthinking things. What it really came down to was this - TikTok praising and flattering Trump in several different public messages. That's what Trump responds to more than anything. He doesn't believe in any ideals or hold any actual political positions of his own. He makes his decisions based on gut impulses and personal whims. That's why  TikTok felt the need to glowingly refer to Trump by name in their messages, and it's why we saw people like Zelenskyy and the Greenland PM rushing to kiss Trump's ass in anticipation of him handing over Ukraine to Putin and doing something incredibly stupid and reckless to try and get control of Greenland, respectively. Trump fans undoubtedly see these public shows of fealty as a sign of Trump's strength, but in reality, it's the opposite. Someone who's this susceptible to flattery and lets their own emotions and personal feelings overrule their policy positions is not fit to be a leader.

Yeah but can you see anyone as American as a narcissist who acts on the whims of flattery and unleashes fire and fury for a slight insult?
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« Reply #11995 on: January 20, 2025, 01:58:35 PM »
You're overthinking things. What it really came down to was this - TikTok praising and flattering Trump in several different public messages. That's what Trump responds to more than anything. He doesn't believe in any ideals or hold any actual political positions of his own. He makes his decisions based on gut impulses and personal whims. That's why  TikTok felt the need to glowingly refer to Trump by name in their messages, and it's why we saw people like Zelenskyy and the Greenland PM rushing to kiss Trump's ass in anticipation of him handing over Ukraine to Putin and doing something incredibly stupid and reckless to try and get control of Greenland, respectively. Trump fans undoubtedly see these public shows of fealty as a sign of Trump's strength, but in reality, it's the opposite. Someone who's this susceptible to flattery and lets their own emotions and personal feelings overrule their policy positions is not fit to be a leader.

Yeah but can you see anyone as American as a narcissist who acts on the whims of flattery and unleashes fire and fury for a slight insult?

The entire world has figured out that Trump is a narcissistic buffoon that responds to empty flattery and they're all laughing at him. Putin, Kim Jong Un, Musk, everybody is playing this idiot.

This is also why he failed in business so much, he makes decisions with his ego.
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« Reply #11996 on: January 20, 2025, 03:41:31 PM »
Just when I thought that my opinion of Trump and his clan of rich, spoiled, self-entitled grifters couldn't get any lower....

Melania coin..

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98y47vrv2jo

Yep, one of the world's most valued crypto currency, millions, billions of dollars, to the moon...

Each dumb redneck buying this crap thinks that there's an even dumber redneck that will buy it for more. The last idiot in the chain gets a kick in the nuts.

Normally, I wouldn't blame the victims of scams but in this case, I will totally blame them and laugh at them.

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« Reply #11997 on: January 20, 2025, 03:46:14 PM »
So, how long til Trump changes the official US currency to Trump Coin?
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« Reply #11998 on: January 20, 2025, 04:03:23 PM »
What is the objective difference between Bitcoin and any other digital currency?
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« Reply #11999 on: January 20, 2025, 04:29:38 PM »
What is the objective difference between Bitcoin and any other digital currency?
Branding and name recognition.
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