[mahogany]

In a recent post from Tom dated December 20, he said that "this community has always accepted the Midnight Sun in its models; the Antarctic midnight sun has been in flat earth models since at least the 1920's."

Based on this, I took the simplified animation model in the Wiki and highlighted what an observer in Antarctica would see when looking South at a Midnight Sun:
 
- When the actual Sun is on the other side of the flat earth plane and moving in a Clockwise direction, a Midnight Sun would be moving in a Counter-Clockwise direction (to an observer in Antarctica looking South) on the other side of the flat earth plane. Is this correct? Also, would the same sunspots visible on the actual Sun also be visible on the Midnight Sun?

[flannel jesus]

If it's generally true that the community has always accepted it, what's with the large number of people denying the recent antarctica trip as faked?

I'm sure he's correct that there's always been at least some person with some model that predicts a midnight sun, but the whole flat earth community accepting it? It just doesn't appear that way.

[mahogany]

If it's generally true that the community has always accepted it, what's with the large number of people denying the recent antarctica trip as faked?

I'm sure he's correct that there's always been at least some person with some model that predicts a midnight sun, but the whole flat earth community accepting it? It just doesn't appear that way.

Tom didn't say the "whole" flat earth community has always accepted a Midnight Sun.
Tom's quoted as saying "this" flat earth community, which I guess would be anyone on this TFES membership forum.

Beyond this, my key interest is trying to make sure I understand how TFES animation model would work for an observer located at any point on the Antarctic Ice Ring looking due south at a Midnight Sun in December:

- the Sun in the current animation model moves in a Clockwise (East to West) direction.
- for an observer located at any point on the Antarctic ice wall looking due South, the Midnight Sun to them would also be moving East to West which when looking at a top view of the flat earth plane would be in a Counter-Clockwise direction.
- so essentially, you have the actual Sun moving Clockwise and at the same time a Midnight Sun located south of the Antarctic ice ring on the opposite side of the actual Sun moving in a Counter-Clockwise direction. Just trying to understand if this is correct.

- Also, would the same sunspots that are visible on the actual Sun also be visible on the Midnight Sun?     

[Pete Svarrior]

what's with the large number of people denying the recent antarctica trip as faked?

I doubt it's actually "a large number" - the Twitter/YouTube crowd has always been pretty loud, but it's a small group.

[flannel jesus]

what's with the large number of people denying the recent antarctica trip as faked?

I doubt it's actually "a large number" - the Twitter/YouTube crowd has always been pretty loud, but it's a small group.

Yes, flat earth is small as a whole, you're right. It just looks proportionally like there's more people denying it happened from FE community as a whole than accepting it happened, based on comments on these videos. It's obviously not easy to turn that into an actual quantification.

[mahogany]

what's with the large number of people denying the recent antarctica trip as faked?

I doubt it's actually "a large number" - the Twitter/YouTube crowd has always been pretty loud, but it's a small group.

Months before The Final Experiment even took place, there were already "hostile" skeptics on this site and those on this site that were claiming that the venture likely consisted of some level of embezzlement.

To me, The Final Experiment wasn't so much a set of observations or experiments regarding the Sun, but rather a case study of what confirmation bias look like.

Many flat earthers have spent at least a decade promoting the flat earth belief and so I think The Final Experiment was only going to cause these folks to dig their heals in the ground further to protect their flat earth time "investment"     

Am predicting that in the next 10 years or so, at least one or a couple of flat earthers will be invited to travel to space. This will be TFE #2 and the same thing will happen all over again. The flat earthers that accept the trip will be called grifters and shills even before they go on the trip. And there will be suggestions of embezzlement. When they predictably report back curvature and that they were in space, it will be denied and all kinds of conspiracy theories will be put forward.   

[flannel jesus]

The flat earthers that accept the trip will be called grifters and shills even before they go on the trip.

Yup. If a trip to outer space costs, say, 100k in 10 years, it's not going to be a case of "100k to disprove flat earth", it's going to be 100k per flat earth believer. You can only apparently convince them one by one.