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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: When did the Flat earth theory originate from?
« Last post by Action80 on February 04, 2025, 11:12:15 AM »
The Ancient Babylonians and many other cultures depicted the earth as a flat plane.

If you look at this Wiki link, you can find some more history.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by DuncanDoenitz on February 04, 2025, 12:31:09 AM »
Isn't it basically the same in all of the (what we refer to as Western) democracies?  USA, UK, Germany, France etc. 

All have 3 branches of government;

Legislature; (Parliament, Congress, Bundestag etc).  A large elected assembly which, on behalf of the People, decides what laws and constitutional changes are necessary. 

Executive; A smaller body of elected or co-opted individuals who make day-to-day decisions and decide what measures are to be taken to better promote the country's prosperity, security and well-being.  The Executive is generally a Cabinet, with varying amounts of emphasis placed on the power of its leader, President or Prime Minister.  The rule governing all Executive branches is that all their power comes from The Parliament or Congress, and they must act within existing laws and National Constitution.  If they can't do this, they might propose legislation which must then be passed by the Legislature before they can execute it.   

Judiciary; independant of the other 2 branches determines whether the law is being obeyed. 

Presumably, in the case of Trump's Executive Orders concerning DEI, Tarrifs and whatnot, he must already have that power through existing legislation or the Constitution.  Where he comes unstuck is when he tries to give things which are not his to give, such as the birthright thing (14th Amdt?) when the Judiciary steps on the brake pedal. 

Regarding the UK Crown's loss of power, Tom is having a laugh; it's just a National 1000-year Lifecycle thing.  The European nations went through the whole power/colonisation thing hundreds of years ago.  Africa, Indian subcontinent, Far East and America itself were undeveloped, disorganised and easy pickings for Europe to invade, colonise, subjugate and expoilt; that's where the money came from, Officer. 

A few hundred years later, the Age of Reason and our benevolent Empires release the, now cultivated, savages to make their own decisions, elect their own parliaments and get on with life.  Are we less powerful?  We're certainly less wealthy, now we are spreading the goodness and the money was never really ours anyway. 

The problem with the USA, and Trump in particular is that they came late to the game.  Whilst everyone else is letting their colonies fly free, Trump is still in the mindset of 15th Century Europe and trying to colonise Mexico, Canada and Greenland. 
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Flat Earth Investigations / When did the Flat earth theory originate from?
« Last post by Connor on February 03, 2025, 10:56:25 PM »
While I was talking about my project with a teacher, she brang up of where the flat earth theory had originated.
When did the flat earth theory originate from
As there is evidence of a flat earth theory dating back to the 1500s, I am wondering if it dates back further and by who?
(I checked FAQ and there was nothing on the topic)
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by AATW on February 03, 2025, 10:05:18 PM »
If it was left to Congress they would just argue about it and have a hard time getting the required votes and essentially do nothing.
That depends on the make up of Congress. Right now in the UK Labour have a strong majority. Which means they can basically do what they want unless a significant number of their MPs rebel. But they still have to go through the process and allow parliament to debate things before anything becomes law. I can see that your system is more efficient but the trade-off is the President can do things unilaterally which doesn't feel right in a democracy. Yes yes, people voted for him to be President but they also voted for a government which should provide some checks and balances.

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Allowing the US President great freedom to act, react, and dictate policy is partly why the US is the richest and most powerful country on earth.
No it isn't.

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This is also why the English Crown has lost an incredible amount of world power after the Monarchy decided to stop governing directly and leave most things to democracy.
No it isn't.
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Solar Eclipse of Aug 12, 2026
« Last post by AATW on February 03, 2025, 10:00:34 PM »
It still has the same problem. If the Moon's shadow is traveling at that steep of an angle then there should be steep Southward or Northward vertical shadow movement in all eclipse shadow paths. Yet we see many with relatively horizontal Eastwards paths for the same duration.
Firstly, I can't find any horizontal ones.

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEatlas/SEatlas3/SE2001-25T-2.GIF

But also one factor is the latitude. This is not a very good diagram and don't take the numbers that literally, this is just to illustrate the point:



The two red lines represent the start and end point of where it hits the earth in the "y" axis - up/down. With the same difference in "y" it causes an eclipse near the equator to have a difference of about 8.6 degrees. At a more northerly latitude it's nearly 12.3 degrees. And if it was more northerly or southerly still you can see it would be even more.
Because (all together now) we live on a globe.

This is complicated and you keep on conflating you not understanding that complication with it not being possible.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on February 03, 2025, 06:02:06 PM »
I don’t really understand all this executive order stuff. Why can a US President unilaterally decide policy, impose tariffs, pardon people, decide about DEI policies, halt refugee programmes etc.

If it was left to Congress they would just argue about it and have a hard time getting the required votes and essentially do nothing. If you argue enough it can often result in a split in the consensus. In debates there is a psychological factor to balance out issues. In the past there have been issues with the media doing things like interviewing a doctor on a medical issue and then interviewing a crystal healing practitioner about the 'alternative' opinion, implying that there are two equal sides. If you do that enough you give undue legitimacy and the public will eventually think that there really are two sides.

Allowing the US President great freedom to act, react, and dictate policy is partly why the US is the richest and most powerful country on earth. This is also why the English Crown has lost an incredible amount of world power after the Monarchy decided to stop governing directly and leave most things to democracy. They gave away too much to democracy. You do need an active governing king, but you need the ability to vote for that king.

The founders of the United States were highly educated and designed the US Constitution based specifically on the failed direct democracy experiments of Ancient Greece, and failed direct monarchies in France with the correct balance. Most other countries just know that democracy is desirable and are recklessly slapping elements together.
And the massive resources and exploited immigrant labor didn't help, right?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Tom Bishop on February 03, 2025, 05:33:11 PM »
I don’t really understand all this executive order stuff. Why can a US President unilaterally decide policy, impose tariffs, pardon people, decide about DEI policies, halt refugee programmes etc.

If it was left to Congress they would just argue about it and have a hard time getting the required votes and essentially do nothing. If you argue enough it can often result in a split in the consensus. In debates there is a psychological factor to balance out issues. In the past there have been issues with the media doing things like interviewing a doctor on a medical issue and then interviewing a crystal healing practitioner about the 'alternative' opinion, implying that there are two equal sides. If you do that enough you give undue legitimacy and the public will eventually think that there really are two sides.

Allowing the US President great freedom to act, react, and dictate policy is partly why the US is the richest and most powerful country on earth. This is also why the English Crown has lost an incredible amount of world power after the Monarchy decided to stop governing directly and leave most things to democracy. They gave away too much to democracy. You do need an active governing king, but you need the ability to vote for that king.

The founders of the United States were highly educated, studied history closely, and designed the US Constitution based specifically on the failed direct democracy experiments of Ancient Greece, and the failed direct monarchies in France and elsewhere, with the correct balance. Most other countries just know that democracy is desirable and are recklessly slapping elements together.
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Solar Eclipse of Aug 12, 2026
« Last post by flannel jesus on February 03, 2025, 04:16:13 PM »
Yet we see many with relatively horizontal Eastwards paths for the same duration.

For example? They all look sufficiently north/south to me.

It seems just obviously, intuitively false that all eclipse paths should look the same. Some eclipse paths happen more towards the edge. Some happen more towards the equator. Some start north and go south, some start north and go further north. Some start south and go north, some start south and go further south. And then all the different variations for ones that can start more near the middle.

There's just no good reason to assume they should ALL look the same. "Things happen differently sometimes, therefore this doesn't make sense" just isn't a compelling argument. Yes, things happen differently sometimes. That makes perfect sense.
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Solar Eclipse of Aug 12, 2026
« Last post by Tom Bishop on February 03, 2025, 04:12:47 PM »
It still has the same problem. If the Moon's shadow is traveling at that steep of an angle then there should be steep Southward or Northward vertical shadow movement in all eclipse shadow paths. Yet we see many with relatively horizontal Eastwards paths for the same duration.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on February 03, 2025, 07:27:01 AM »
So apparently the Norwegian government is hoping to lower interest rates in March.  But since America is going to have a Trade War with Canada and Mexico, they may have to raise it instead.

So once again, Trump is fucking me over and I don't even live there.