I dunno. I mean, if I saw some kid with a rifle, I'd assume he was gonna go Columbine on us and try to stop him. Tho not chase him down. I'd have shot him. To protect lives.
Killing someone you think may do something bad is murder and would be utterly indefensible as self-defense.
And yet, police do it all the time and get away with it. Even so, its one of the arguments the gun supporters use: They can protect people and stop a shooter. And if we all found out that Kyle had posted a bunch of stuff about murdering protesters, we'd all be calling those victims heroes for trying to stop him. This is why normal people shouldn't have guns while all out and about, acting like police with no actual training.
And on the OTHER side, if heard three shots, turned, saw a man with a gun over a dead man, I'd assume he was a bad guy and try to stop him.
That’s a snap judgement and I’m glad you weren’t there because it’s assessments like these that would only escalate a bad situation.
Of course it would. Yet again, the whole 2nd Amendment guys say that this is good. That if someone is firing off their gun at someone unarmed, they're probably a bad guy.
Its the duty if a 2nd Amendment loving, gun carrying person to protect lives from agressive murderers. Kyle looked like a god damn murderer. (Because technically he is)
Technically he isn’t a murderer because he hasn’t been convicted of murder and if he is acquitted on the grounds that it was self-defense, then he absolutely is not a murderer.
You are correct. I was wrong on the defintion of Murder. I assumed it was just any death attributed to a non-accident or negligence.
But like, Kyle probably had good intentions but thought "These people are crazy and violent so I better look like I can kill them so they don't mess with me."
And from the video, the first victim was an agressor and did ask for it. "What are you gonna do, shoot me?" To which Kyle probably said something like "If I have to, yeah." But thats speculation. Point is, Kyle probalby wouldn't have been harassed if he didn't have a big gun strapped to his shoulder.
And the other two were just responding to a shooter. Something that, if the kid was black, the cops would have shot him dead in an instant. And this is literally why the whole thing is happening: Because a 17 year old white kid with a gun gets cheers from cops while any unarmed black man (or even lightly armed) is gunned down or arrested. Sometimes both.
If we want to see racism in the police force: we can look no further than this example.
... the kid called 911 on his phone saying he shot someone, right?
He was seen with a phone to his ear. Have you heard a record of such a call, or a confirmation he actually got through to 911?
Also, having killed two, and maimed one other, if he REALLY wanted to tell the police, why did he get back in his mother's car, go home to the neighbouring state, and still not turn himself in? Why didn't he remain in the vicinity? Why didn't he/they look for a police station in the city?
What kind of monster are we dealing with here?
I'm gonna join in with Pete and Existoid here. This kid probably called his mom because he just killed someone and paniced like crazy. He looked brave, acted brave, but when his life was actually threatened, he ran scared. Which is fine and normal. And his mom was likely the first person he talked to because, lets face it, when you are in panic you don't think rationally. So I'm not faulting him for running scared or calling whoever. He's 17 with no real experience and just jumped into what was basically a powder keg of agression. Arrogant and not smart. And now his life is ruined.