Woody---I see you're back to being the good Woody.
People are personally responsible for what they bring into this world. You are wrong that scientist aren't responsible. They bare more responsibility for the destruction their inventions cause than the rest of us. Oppenheimer had the choice not to work on the Manhattan project. They would have found someone else because brains are cheap. But, he, the poor wretch we call Oppenheimer, would have still been better off. What Oppenheimer did was akin to giving a loaded gun to a disturbed child except on a larger scale.
You are engaging in apologetics which is an exercise in religious devotion. And you say science isn't your god? I don't believe you.
Before calculus people relied more in intuition and simpler ways of measuring. Forging iron, for instance, couldn't really be monitored by measuring parameters so much as judging by the color of the metal; or the smell or the sound. A blacksmith doesn't need to be a scientist. Science basically means knowledge but the word 'science' isn't really well defined.
I have no political stance. I quit voting. I have no trust for any authority outside of the Gospels. All countries are guilty of human rights abuses, genocide and hegemony. All governments are protection rackets. The human race is divided between the lucky and the unlucky; politics doesn't have much to do with it. It has always been such. There is a class of man that will thrive no matter where he is what is going on around him. Then there are those of us who never get a break.
I like being contentious. I don't deny it. I am disgusted with the human condition and sometimes I let my resentment get the best of me. But I wish no ill to come to anyone. Even if I don't like them I still don't want anything bad to happen to them. Hatred and rage? Witnessing hatred and rage is traumatic. I don't hate anybody. I have no criminal record. I have no record of violence or perversion. I respect my neighbors property. I have deference for the fairer gender.
Without liquor and drugs our society would crumble. We are living in a dying culture. Art and music are a joke. Science is dead and also a dead end. Depression and anxiety are the plagues of our time. Science has not helped except for in a limited sense. Like Frankenstein they have created a monster and they can't control it.
People do not need science to be happy or healthy. They can live a long time without science. Science is dangerous and scientists are irresponsible and you saying scientists aren't responsible is a cop out and shows you to be philosophically shallow.
Beauty is often mistaken for goodness as Tolstoy pointed out. Science is a tool and as such is innocuous but holding science as a value and believing in it as the only way to discern truth is a religious belief. It is pure hubris and just a way for people to stroke their egos and feel like they are smart. And don't we all love it when our egos are exalted?! But none of us is smart. We all have aptitudes. Some of us are gifted but the gifted are rare. And there is no such thing as a gifted scientist.
We have been seduced but our lover doesn't really care for us. She will use us and then leave us a broken shell with no heart to speak of. It's going to get worse before it starts to get better.
I have said many times modern science is 2 percent science, 98 percent conclusion of whatever agenda is either paying for it or controlling it. Though I don't hate science, in its true form it has much use. You can't just blindly and broadly hate something, that is unhealthy, unproductive and only leads to damage to the one whom is hating and the one whom is hated. However, the increased damage goes to the one whom is hating.
Yes I agree people always replace a traditional god with untraditional ones. They may announce to be an athiest yet their new "god" is science, or the government ect. It takes as much faith to believe in evolution and orgins as it does any traditional god.
Yes voting is useless...we learned from the George Bush chad situation that it was getting difficult to control the polls. Then suddenly they switch to an electronic system... convenient.
Also if you are concerned that science will prove the Bible wrong, don't use that as a motivation. The books have been attacked since they were written and have held their own since. You don't need to defend truth, truth is its own defense.
In any case, none of this is justification for broad spectrum hate and anger towards any group. If I hated an entire group over the wrongs of some in that group. I should hate Christians, Jews, Muslims, scientist, athiest, engineers, pilots, maintenance men, politicians, doctors, nurses, programmers and continue going until I run out of populous. I should also hate myself, you, and every other person on this forum.
This is the foundation of how the greatest atrocities of human history begin, rather it for religious, political or other justifications.