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No flat earth model, that claims to demonstrate the relationship between the sun and the Earth, has ever shown how the sun can appear to be rising from beneath the horizon in the morning, then setting below the horizon in the evening - from any vantage point on the Earth.

Did you look at the tfes.org models before you posted a complaint on the tfes.org website?  - https://wiki.tfes.org/Sunrise_and_Sunset

I haven't been through every last link--but I don't think electromagnetic acceleration is a thing and if you don't know the height of the sun, I don't think you can use the "perspective" suggestion for how it sets.

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1. Says he's been "trying to understand FE" for 10 years (lol).

2. Says there are no explanations for sunset & sunrise within FE.

3. Immediately after that he says there are explanations, but they are "full of misunderstandings and gaps" and does not elaborate.

4. Says "you can't prove anything, you can only assume things are true" (lol).

5. Says "in perhaps the leading school of thought on epistemology, "gotcha" is all there is" (lol).

6. Says globe Earth geometry works, but wants to look at the sky to "confirm" this, not the Earth itself.

7. Pretends that the celestial sphere does not exist if the Earth is flat and tries to push "FE dome" strawman instead (he said "forget about it" after being called out for it while he has it in his signature).

8. Admits he doesn't understand celestial sphere in a FE context.

9. Says Earth is a globe but is approximately locally flat (a geometrical impossibility; not to mention that the Earth isn't that big considering there is supposed to be 66 feet of curvature in just 10 miles).

10. Again insists that "FE breaks down when you try to explain sunrise/sunset, different stars in southern/northern hemisphere, etc etc etc.", when it does not.

There are some questions about sun rises and sunsets (height of the sun, angular position of the sun when it "sets")

The globe model says that the earth is a pretty big globe--which means it measures "almost flat" locally. That's not a contradiction: it's what would be predicted (and is how really big globes measured by comparatively small things on them works).

The rotation of the stars in different directions is easily explained with the globe / 'celestial sphere' around it concept. It isn't nearly so easy to explain on a flat earth (you have to have two different star-projections going in different directions or something).

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Does history support the Flat Earth Theory?
« on: January 15, 2024, 01:20:38 PM »
I would think that for there not to be a "conspiracy" (an active effort on the part of governments to keep a secret) there would have to be divine power (or infernal power) dedicated to fooling people who are trying to do various kinds of science:
* Pilots and international travel shows we can get to the various continents reliably with known times and distances. I don't see how it's feasible that either (a) we don't know the true map or (b) the true map is somehow concealed.
* Engineers for certain projects (large naval vessel tow-tanks, LIGO, etc.) take earth-curve (and water curve) into account. It seems like either the tow-tank would be built incorrectly, leading to incorrect ship design or the engineers would be doing a lot of work to hide the truth (the tow-tank rails are 'straight' but the documents say they follow earth-curve.
* Early scientists (Foucault?) would either need to be in-on-things, unaware of how science works (refraction, coriolis effect, etc.) or there is some force faking these things.

The reason I am given to understand why the Nazi party explored alternate science was that they believed non-Aryan science was corrupt and put extra emphasis on science from Germans--even if somewhat wonky. This, IIRC caused them to discount Einstein's theories, for example (Jewish science must be wrong!)

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