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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 12, 2022, 08:13:32 PM »
Its a problem with slogans.  Big, complex ideas ,that probably take a few pages to explain, are boiled down to a few words.  They are memeified, if you will.

This is an excellent point. The fact is that every reform measure Pete mentioned has been tried over and over and over again with no results. The situation continues to decay.

Instead of defunding the police, maybe we should just call it an extreme retraining and re-budgeting of resources.
It wouldn't frighten the mainstream masses as much.

Or "De-Escelation team implementstion"



But in ACTUAL Trump news...
FBI collected multiple sets of classified documents from Trump's Mar-a-Lago home https://www.npr.org/2022/08/12/1117151056/fbi-collected-multiple-sets-of-classified-documents-from-trumps-mar-a-lago-home?sc=18&f=1117151056

TLDR: The man stole and didn't turn over 11 classified documents.  At least one of which wasn't allowded to leave the facility it was in.

He is really, really fucked.  And he'd be in Jail if he didn't have an army of redhsts ready to start Civil War 2 at his command.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 12, 2022, 06:46:19 PM »
I disagree.  I think using police budget for retaining and training people who are not there to fight, shoot, or restle people but convince them to to stop peacefully... Is a good idea.
I should have spoken more clearly, and that's on me.

I think there is plenty of room for reform in American police departments. However, if the question is "defund or not?", my answer is "not". I believe there is no alternative to that answer to that specific question. If you expand the question to what Dr Van Drugs posited - "would you rather defund the police or do nothing?" - then my answer is "do nothing", because "defiunding the police" is only going to make things much worse.

Its a problem with slogans.  Big, complex ideas ,that probably take a few pages to explain, are boiled down to a few words.  They are memeified, if you will.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 12, 2022, 06:28:26 PM »
If it was your town, you would just deal with it?
Yes, because I have no alternative available, and just making things worse because at least we're doing something is a fantastic way of increasing misery in the world. I'm a big fan of not fucking up the world just to appease my sense of righteousness.

This is why I hope that the "dEfUnD tHe PoLiCe" idiots never gain any ground. Luckily, they're very unlikely to.

I disagree.  I think using police budget for retaining and training people who are not there to fight, shoot, or restle people but convince them to to stop peacefully... Is a good idea.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 12, 2022, 05:03:21 AM »
https://www.axios.com/2022/08/11/fbi-cincinnati-armed-breach

The state of the right in the US is such that the FBI serving a lawfully signed warrant creates stochastic terrorism.
Especially in relation to Nuclear Weapons. If this is accurate.

https://mobile.twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1557880239287455744

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 11, 2022, 08:18:26 PM »
Also:

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/11/1116974512/justice-department-unseal-warrant-mar-a-lago-trump

I'm sure Action or Tom or someone will spin this as being fake or irrelevant or not warranting something.  I dunno. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 11, 2022, 05:34:34 PM »
Defund the police doesn't mean we won't have police. It means we're going to stop paying these assholes and come up with a different vendor.
A different vendor than the government? Presumably that means you're in favour of private policing (if not, what's the alternative?). That sounds like a fantastic way to make things much worse.

Privatizing any use of force, police, prisons or military is a bad idea.

The municipality would simply dismantle the police department and rebuild a new one with a new name, new charter and new people.
Hopefully, this could skirt the union protections that have helped protect the corrupt cops.

That's pointless and likely not possible.

Imagine telling 50 cops "You're fired" then having no police coverage for like 2 weeks, while you try to hire people to replace the people you just fired, knowing there likely won't be anyone to hire and/or they are people who were fired for doing the same shit you just fired your force for doing.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 11, 2022, 02:37:49 PM »
95% percent of the time, it is her fault.

mEn JuSt CaN't CoNtRoL tHeMsElVeS!!!!!!!!1111111111111

Nah.  Its women.  They release pheramones that make men super horny.  They are mind controlled into having sex.  Otherwise all men would be celebet.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 11, 2022, 05:09:28 AM »
Here is how I was explained Prayer:
If enough people pray for something, and God is ok on changing his mind on that thing, he will. 

Like: if little Jimmy is dying of cancer and enough people pray hard enough, God might allow Jimmy to live instead of killing him.  But you can't know how many people is needed or if God is willing to change his mind.  So its a crap shoot.
Isn't God supposed to know what everyone is going to do before they do it? In which case he should already know whether they would pray and make the situation different from the start so they don't need to.

He does.  But he still wants them to do it before he does anything.

Basically: if ya don't beg, he won't consider making things better.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 10, 2022, 09:45:00 PM »
Carney's organisation works with an evangelical law firm called ADF International whose London spokesperson Lois McLatchie has been interviewed by Scottish media saying the buffer zones "ban legitimate offers of help and silent prayer."

"Women have the right to hear about these options at the point of need and it is patronising of the government saying women don't want to hear this," McLatchie told BBC Scotland in a recent interview.
Excuse me, what? "Legitimate offers of help and silent prayer"? How exactly are these protests "helping" women?

Here is how I was explained Prayer:
If enough people pray for something, and God is ok on changing his mind on that thing, he will. 

Like: if little Jimmy is dying of cancer and enough people pray hard enough, God might allow Jimmy to live instead of killing him.  But you can't know how many people is needed or if God is willing to change his mind.  So its a crap shoot.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 09, 2022, 05:46:10 PM »
That appears to be the messaging on this from the GOP.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/trump-world-republicans-fbi-2024-run-00050485

Strange how things have turned.  The Republicans are now the ones saying to defund the police.

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Neal Katyal, a former federal U.S. Solicitor General challenged Trump on MSNBC to release a copy of the search warrant that was left at Mar-a-Lago. “If you believe this is such an abuse, release the warrant and let us decide for ourselves,” Katyal said.

Classic Trump.  Fan the flames with lack of evidence while holding the evidence you say isn't there.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 09, 2022, 02:27:09 PM »
Trump says FBI agents searched his Mar-a-Lago home in Florida https://www.npr.org/2022/08/08/1116427430/trump-says-fbi-agents-raided-his-mar-a-lago-home-in-florida?sc=18&f=1001


Apparently Republicans are super pissed, calling this weaponization of the Justice Department and one asshole running for congress is threatening to arrest any FBI agent in Florida who does things outside the state's purview.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/anthony-sabatini-florida-lawmaker-calls-for-fbi-agents-to-be-arrested-upon-sight-after-trump-raid

Which is kinda weird to say, given the FBI exist outside the state's Purview.
Aside from this whole story likely to be nothing more than a "made for mass consumption," "distract from the real issues," POS "journalism" that NPR and other fake news outlets are engaged in (increasingly day-to-day, by the way), it appears you are stating the following:

An FBI operation can take place in any US state and, should any aspects of said operation be illegally or criminally conducted, the FBI, nor its agents, could not be prosecuted or otherwise answerable to a local, state, or district court, for committing those illegal or criminal actions.

If you are stating that, that would be patently false.

You really need to learn to read.  Or perhaps have an MRI on your brain as you're clearly unable to process words properly.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 09, 2022, 11:40:57 AM »
Trump says FBI agents searched his Mar-a-Lago home in Florida https://www.npr.org/2022/08/08/1116427430/trump-says-fbi-agents-raided-his-mar-a-lago-home-in-florida?sc=18&f=1001


Apparently Republicans are super pissed, calling this weaponization of the Justice Department and one asshole running for congress is threatening to arrest any FBI agent in Florida who does things outside the state's purview.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/anthony-sabatini-florida-lawmaker-calls-for-fbi-agents-to-be-arrested-upon-sight-after-trump-raid

Which is kinda weird to say, given the FBI exist outside the state's Purview.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 07, 2022, 04:34:16 PM »

And once again, you're wrong.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/06/1116132623/indiana-becomes-1st-state-to-approve-abortion-ban-post-roe?t=1659802505593

To approve, post roe.  This means trigger laws put on the books prior as well as other restrictions, don't count.
Actually, I am right.
Oh my god!!!



Even the media cannot keep track of its narrative...
So, here the media was applying the word - BAN.

Yes.  It was a ban, passed as a trigger law in 2019.
Okay, thanks for confirming the media cannot get their story straight.

Its straight.
Laws were passed to ban abortion before and after the Roe reversal.  How is that hard to understand?
The word first is used when reporting.
Yes.  First after roe.
To put in simply... You can take a shit on Saturday, then on Monday say "this is my first shit since the new week began" while shitting in the morning.

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And abortion is not banned.
Is in some places, yes.


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So, it isn't straight.

How is that hard to understand?
With the amount of mental gymnastics you do, I'm shocked you can't do a simple tumble.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 07, 2022, 07:10:59 AM »

And once again, you're wrong.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/06/1116132623/indiana-becomes-1st-state-to-approve-abortion-ban-post-roe?t=1659802505593

To approve, post roe.  This means trigger laws put on the books prior as well as other restrictions, don't count.
Actually, I am right.
Oh my god!!!



Even the media cannot keep track of its narrative...
So, here the media was applying the word - BAN.

Yes.  It was a ban, passed as a trigger law in 2019.
Okay, thanks for confirming the media cannot get their story straight.

Its straight.
Laws were passed to ban abortion before and after the Roe reversal.  How is that hard to understand?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 06, 2022, 05:19:44 PM »

And once again, you're wrong.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/06/1116132623/indiana-becomes-1st-state-to-approve-abortion-ban-post-roe?t=1659802505593

To approve, post roe.  This means trigger laws put on the books prior as well as other restrictions, don't count.
Actually, I am right.
Oh my god!!!



Even the media cannot keep track of its narrative...
So, here the media was applying the word - BAN.

Yes.  It was a ban, passed as a trigger law in 2019.

https://www.ualrpublicradio.org/local-regional-news/2022-06-24/arkansans-one-of-13-states-with-abortion-trigger-laws-local-officials-react

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 06, 2022, 04:18:37 PM »
Aww did da bad word hurt your feelings?

I did watch your video by the way. It begs the question if you understand how time works or not. Please let us know.
Not at all.

Still refraining from profanity, the video actually begs the question as to whether or not you know how time works...

So, please, let us know.

Yeah. I gave you a timeline. Feel free to discuss it in detail. This law passing has no effect on the abortion done over a month before.

I take it back, maybe it’s entropy and not time that is giving you fits. So, just so you know, events in the present or future can not affect events in the past.
Now that you have posted the timeline, you can elucidate on how a person would or should travel from a state where, according to the media, abortion was not banned.

She travelled from Ohio to have an abortion in Indiana. You know that right?
According to the media, yes she did.

The question is why?

According to the media, Indiana is the first state to ban abortion, as of yesterday.

Meaning abortion wasn't banned in Ohio.
And once again, you're wrong.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/06/1116132623/indiana-becomes-1st-state-to-approve-abortion-ban-post-roe?t=1659802505593

To approve, post roe.  This means trigger laws put on the books prior as well as other restrictions, don't count.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Old Politicians
« on: August 05, 2022, 06:50:57 PM »
Whenever someone brags about the Digital Age and muh amazing computers the arguments end up sounding like "The US Constitution: Now on LaserDisc!"

You should have some respect.  After all, without the digital age, it would have been impossible for you to troll as many people as you do, daily, without physical effort.
Hell, cherry picking because everyting is digital and can be searched in a second is your bread and butter. 

So have some respect for the tech that gave you purpose.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Old Politicians
« on: August 05, 2022, 03:58:37 PM »
Points 3 and 4 represent the creation of fundamentally new technologies. The Digital Age in on point 5 represents people doing the same things they were already doing, but on a computer.

For someone to say that a personal computer or even the internet was not revolutionary is insane.

We went from the Harvard Mark I in the 40's:



To this, way more powerful, in the oughts:



And that's not revolutionary?

Actually I did say it was revolutionary. I also said that it wasn't as important as the technologies that revolutionized society in the early to mid 1900's.

My main criticism was that the applications used are largely just digital replicas of things which already existed. People already had encyclopedias in their homes and had library passes. People already could compose documents, order things from catalogues, and send letters and notes to each other. Now you can do all of that on a computer with emojis. It provided a convenient platform, but people were still doing the same things they were doing before.

If thats the criteria then, well, none of the tech you listed is revolutionary either.

Automobile: we already used horses.  Cars were just us moving faster and longer. 
Radio: we already could send messages wirelessly via sound waves.  So this was just doing it with another wave.
Airplanes: we already had hot air balloons.  Putting a fan on the front to move isn't a big change.
Etc...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Old Politicians
« on: August 04, 2022, 09:21:49 PM »
Americans love toting that they won WW2.  So much so that thry ignore literally everyone else who fought in it.  Hell, America wouldn't have won without fhe british canadian, french resistance, russian, and many other nations working together and dividing German forces.
Actually, it's the other way around.  The Brits, Canadians, etc., were losing both world wars until the US came to the rescue.   8)

Yes and it took all of them.
The US, were they alone, would have lost.

Where are all these Americans claiming we single-handedly won WWII? I'm honestly not sure they exist. Everybody learned about the Axis and Allied Powers in school. Stop trying to make us look bad, Dave.

Know what I learned in school?  That we basically saved the day.  That we're the heroes.

I mean, we did, and we are, but that's besides the point. You didn't learn anything about Churchill in school? The crushing Russian victories over the Germans?

Maybe you just went to a really shitty school?

A little about Churchill, and we learned that Russians retreated and burned everything so the Germans would be fucked come winter.  Thats... Basically it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 04, 2022, 09:20:25 PM »
"Mr Biden said the result showed "the majority of Americans agree that women should have access to abortion". - Evidently, the BBC thinks like Biden (for shame), that Kansans represent all of citizens of the US.
Doesn’t basically every poll show that Americans are largely pro choice?
Basically, every poll is taken from areas where the population is most dense.

In fairness, he's not entirely wromg.
Random sampling means there is a higher chance of getting someone from a high dense area vs a low one.  Tho you can adjust polls so they do random sampling of target regions to minimize that problem.  But only so many people you should poll per area and if the area has like 1,000 people, well... No need to poll more than one or two.
But a city with a few million?  Need to poll a several hundred.

I’m not sure Lackey’s point is fair because he is asserting that polls over sample people living in cities without any evidence.
Polls cannot help but oversample populations with higher population density.

Just curious, what sample should they take?
Like lets say a county has 9,000 people.  What sample of them, of a state with a population of 3 million, should be taken to be fairly sampled?
I don't care what samples they take.

I am fairly convinced you have the same feeling.

You clearly do.  You said you think they're undersampling low density areas.  So just want to know what you consider to be accurate sampling.

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