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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How does GPS work?
« on: June 02, 2019, 07:31:29 AM »
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What if, when rockets are shot up into the with satellites to go into orbit, they go up just as the rocket scientists think they do, but inside of going into an orbit around the globe shaped Earth, they fall into a circling overhead type path.

Any sentence that starts with a 'What if...' is basically pure speculation.  There are a few others on here who will say (and rightfully) speculation without evidence does not really provide a basis for discussion. With evidence that can be verified, then you have something to talk about.

Another point which counteracts against the cell mast idea is that GPS data is corrected for relativity due to the relative motion between satellites and the 'observer'.  That is necessary to achieve the level of accuracy in positioning.  That wouldn't be needed of course if the signal was coming from a source locally on the ground which was static relative to the observer or receiver.  Any manufacturer of GPS receivers will tell you this.  It is no secret.

Well I know it is speculation. No one else was coming forth with anything so I was trying to give something to start with. In my observation it is evident that satellites are exactly what they seem to be.

I don't know how any evidence would be provided of what the OP was asking for since they is no huge mass of balloons up there, or some such.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How does GPS work?
« on: June 01, 2019, 08:04:34 AM »
In the interest of providing some possibilities I will give an option for the flat Earth.

What if, when rockets are shot up into the with satellites to go into orbit, they go up just as the rocket scientists think they do, but inside of going into an orbit around the globe shaped Earth, they fall into a circling overhead type path. This would be in the same sort of pattern that the sun and moon apparently travel in. If the sun and moon could do it, so could a satellite. Right?

I can't really think of how this would work in Geostationary Orbit. Maybe someone else can come up with that one.

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Tom, why don't you just give an experiment that would help rather than just arguing every last thing that anyone says?

He wants an experiment. He is making some sort of seemingly honest attempt to understand the whole point of this website.

He wants to know. Accommodate him.

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I have just recently found an interest in the Flat Earth Theory, and after a while of research about what it was, I couldn't understand it very well, or how it explained a lot of things, so I came to the Flat Earth Society forum to get a brush up on all the details as it seems that you guys have all the answers. So can I have a detailed explanation on this theory?

I would recommend reading the whole Wiki, or as much as you can. Then, spend a week reading forum posts and see what you think. The story goes on and on and is not going to be answered in one forum post response.

Not to be rude or stifle your interest.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Crisp clear horizon line
« on: May 28, 2019, 08:05:23 AM »
There are multiple causes for the sinking effect. Pick one: https://wiki.tfes.org/Sinking_Ship_Effect


So I looked at those pictures which provide evidence of the sinking ship effect. I don't understand why it is ok to use them as evidence of anything at all when the Wiki says that pictures are inherently untrustworthy and corrupted things that are no evidence of anything (referencing pictures from space as no proof of the shape of the Earth).

Why are your pictures any more valid than NASA's?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Censored
« on: May 28, 2019, 07:55:21 AM »
Btw flat earth is a harmless disinformation that shows how many people misthink. It shiuld popularized imo.

I would have to agree with this. The flat Earth should not be censored. It is very fun.

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Oh Mother Goose, we've made it to page 12.

Tom, why did you ask if you are not willing to acknowledge a possibility of any feasible answer?

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Baby Thork, the original post picture of the rays could not be used to verify the distance of the sun whether it is 93,000,000 miles or 3000 miles (however far it is in the flat Earth model) the way those ray converge would put the sun just above the clouds where planes would run into it.

The post with the sun behind the tree would put the sun like 5 feet on the other side of the tree.

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No, I thought your spacetime metric explanation was real good. Not to say I understand it 100%. I have an ok grasp of it though.

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Tom I think it is time to call it quits on this one. We've done 8 pages of explaining it. If you genuinely don't believe it you should see if there were some words that were not understood and look them up in a dictionary and see if that helps.

If you get it now, just say so. It does not dissolve the value of the flat Earth theory, this is just a model of how it could be on the globe. You are welcome to formulate flat Earth version and regard that as truth. It is not a bad thing though to acknowledge that a round Earth theory is possible technically, it just means that it is a workable theory.

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Tom, the next time there is a solar eclipse, get your self a welding helmet with a shade 11 or 12 lens and watch the sun and you will see the moon slide in front of it in the same direction as the shadow is moving across the Earth. This will reveal real time evidence on why the shadow goes west to east, because the moon moves across the Sun/Earth line of sight in that direction.  You will then see the moon and sun continue to set in the west. There is no further complication needed than just watching it happen.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why do we see the same stars every night?
« on: May 22, 2019, 08:24:41 AM »
This would seem to only be a problem with people who have trouble recognizing the difference in what they are looking at. The folks here may not have that misconception, hopefully.

It is a very low gradient observation skill level.

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Hmm, well yes of course.

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