There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« on: May 24, 2023, 10:06:43 PM »
There is an incredibly popular notion these days that government is (for many “reasons”) “pushing” some sort of LGBT related agenda in everyone’s face.
It’s a VERY old and extremely common series of events:
-Group A is marginalized by Group B
-Subset of Group B seeks to reduce marginalization of Group A
-Years pass
-Group A now apparently runs everything and there is an active agenda to shove Group A propaganda “down your throat”.

Common example: some hate crime occurs against (trans people, Jews, etc) and the majority of comments will be entertaining the idea that the hate crime was actually faked by le gubment to “make people think trans people experience hate crimes”(?)

Here’s what a lot of people don’t want to realize: LGBT acceptance is NOT the status quo. Conservative outlets will vigorously work to make it seem like LGBT acceptance is this huge powerful evil force reaching into every aspect of society when it’s simply not.

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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2023, 05:26:52 AM »
Whenever the term "hate crime," is used, that indicates a definite agenda.
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2023, 09:15:32 AM »
I agree with Action.

The adgenda exists and its fairly simple:
Stop the hate on minority groups.
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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2023, 10:11:16 AM »
I'm not at all convinced that the notion is "incredibly popular", or even popular at all. It sounds to me like you're mistaking seeing lots of posts on social media expressing that viewpoint for the viewpoint being common.

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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2023, 03:41:48 PM »
I'm not at all convinced that the notion is "incredibly popular", or even popular at all. It sounds to me like you're mistaking seeing lots of posts on social media expressing that viewpoint for the viewpoint being common.

Please remember that SoMe is extremely unrepresentative of the population, with some voices being artificially amplified or suppressed. This isn't even necessarily intentional - it's just that emotive posting attracts responses, and the recommendation algorithms like engagement.

This is a good point.

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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2023, 03:54:42 PM »
I'm not at all convinced that the notion is "incredibly popular", or even popular at all. It sounds to me like you're mistaking seeing lots of posts on social media expressing that viewpoint for the viewpoint being common.

Please remember that SoMe is extremely unrepresentative of the population, with some voices being artificially amplified or suppressed. This isn't even necessarily intentional - it's just that emotive posting attracts responses, and the recommendation algorithms like engagement.

Plus facebook has a "show only related posts" by default so half the time you can't see a reply unless you scrooolll back, select it, then search for the post again.
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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2023, 06:56:07 PM »
Common example: some hate crime occurs against (trans people, Jews, etc) and the majority of comments will be entertaining the idea that the hate crime was actually faked by le gubment to “make people think trans people experience hate crimes”(?)

I thought you claimed to be a skeptic a few comments ago? That means you ought to entertain the idea that every time the TV "gives you the facts" it may not be entirely true - especially if there's solid evidence to suggest so.

As a skeptic, can you provide an example of an event - or an official narrative regarding an event - that you are skeptical about?
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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2023, 10:48:01 PM »
As a skeptic, can you provide an example of an event - or an official narrative regarding an event - that you are skeptical about?

Yes.
The media minimizes the popularity of FE beliefs, with the narrative being that they are a loud minority.

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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2023, 11:14:41 PM »
As a skeptic, can you provide an example of an event - or an official narrative regarding an event - that you are skeptical about?

Yes.
The media minimizes the popularity of FE beliefs, with the narrative being that they are a loud minority.

Weren't we talking about hate crime events? FE beliefs representation in MSM isn't even an event. And I beg to differ because they love FE beliefs that they can use as strawmen - the more absurd the better. They just don't love FE facts.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2023, 11:25:07 PM by Dual1ty »

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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2023, 08:42:41 PM »
Weren't we talking about hate crime events? FE beliefs representation in MSM isn't even an event. And I beg to differ because they love FE beliefs that they can use as strawmen - the more absurd the better. They just don't love FE facts.

Sadly, FE does exist in the mainstream... Republican of course...
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kandiss-taylor-globes-anti-flat-earth-brainwashing-1234741082/
But being a Republican, we can't be sure if she's a real FE believer or if she's just pandering to her voting base.

One of the reasons FE ideology doesn't get much serious attention is because how can you take someone seriously who can't even explain the basic geography of the world around them. Why would you waste time talking someone who is baffled by the earth's continents?

I don't care whether the earth is round or flat. If FE could produce a map that was accurate, then we'd have something to talk about.
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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2023, 06:48:56 PM »
There sure seems to be an agenda here to me -

October 6, 2017 - New Law Being Used to Spread LGBT Gender Identity Ideology into CA Public Schools

Apr 19, 2018 - California school district says parents can’t pull kids from new LGBT sex ed -
The approved materials teach kids about using fruit as 'sex toys.'


May 3, 2018 - Mandatory LGBT History Lessons for Schoolchildren Approved by Illinois Senate

October 31, 2019 - Texas School District mandates transgender education for 8-year-olds

Jul 22, 2019 - Oregon mandates K–12 LGBT identity curricula in civics, geography - Public school children will be exposed to content regarding sexuality in all courses dealing with civics, economics, geography, government, and history.

11 Aug 2019 - Illinois Governor Mandates LGBT History Curriculum for Public Schools

February 9, 2020 - Mandated LGBT Indoctrination at School Begins in N.J.

January 21, 2021 - Biden executive order says schools should include transgender athletes in girls' sports -
The order was released on the first day of his presidency


September 2, 2021 - 20 States Sue Biden Over Transgender Mandate in Schools Allowing Biological Boys to Compete Against Girls

September 23, 2021 - Sex-ed curriculum used in Richfield schools asks students to role play gay sex scenarios

Mar 22, 2022 - Austin elementary school holds Pride parade, instructs students not to reveal what is said in 'community circles'

May 25, 2022 - Federalist - Biden Admin: K-12 Schools Must Put Boys In Girls’ Bathrooms To Get Federal Lunch Money

May 30, 2022 - New Biden administration rule will tie federal education funding to LGBT mandates

Jun. 18, 2022 - Fairfax County, Virginia Schools Now Mandating How Transgender Students Must Be Referred To

Jun 28, 2022 - Biden's Executive Order Mandates LGBT In Schools

July 2022 - Elementary School Being Built With Complete Genderless Bathrooms

July 17 2022 - Judge blocks Biden admin's transgender school bathroom rule

September 8, 2022 - Lawmakers ask Biden to rescind policy tying school funding to LGBT mandates

October 6, 2022 - Biden administration demands Alabama embrace genderless schools or else

Dec 12, 2022 - Chicago Public Schools Announces That It Will Be Moving To Genderless Bathrooms

May 30, 2023 - California Teacher Secretly Recorded Teaching Explicit Gay Sex Techniques And Sex Toy Recommendations To School Kids w/o Parental Knowledge. Video Enclosed
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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2023, 09:16:59 PM »
I only looked at the last link.
Boy is that misleading.

1. A sex-ed class talking about anal sex and why its pleasurable along side vaginal sex and why its pleasurable go hand in hand.  Plus, it works for pegging.  Ya know, woman fucking a man analy with a strapon?

2. Sex toys.  Yes, they exist.  Highschoolers already know about them.  Why are you shocked its part of the curriculum on sex ed in high school?  What, you think they should teach "when you marry a woman, have yourself hlget a hard penis then out it into her vagina until you feel stuff come out.  Ok, class done."?

I'll have to read the others later.
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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2023, 09:55:23 PM »
I only looked at the last link.
Boy is that misleading.

1. A sex-ed class talking about anal sex and why its pleasurable along side vaginal sex and why its pleasurable go hand in hand.  Plus, it works for pegging.  Ya know, woman fucking a man analy with a strapon?

2. Sex toys.  Yes, they exist.  Highschoolers already know about them.  Why are you shocked its part of the curriculum on sex ed in high school?  What, you think they should teach "when you marry a woman, have yourself hlget a hard penis then out it into her vagina until you feel stuff come out.  Ok, class done."?

I'll have to read the others later.

Yeah, that one's pretty stupid. Only conservatives are outraged at that. But there definitely is a gender bender agenda, though. The very fact that they're forcing boys to sit in a classroom all day listening to some BS is already evidence of that if you ask me. If I was their age (and they're definitely not children) and I wanted to learn about anal sex, I would just go to some porn site. I definitely wouldn't need some witch talking about "booty holes" lmao.

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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2023, 01:22:08 AM »
Yeah, that one's pretty stupid. Only conservatives are outraged at that. But there definitely is a gender bender agenda, though. The very fact that they're forcing boys to sit in a classroom all day listening to some BS is already evidence of that if you ask me. If I was their age (and they're definitely not children) and I wanted to learn about anal sex, I would just go to some porn site. I definitely wouldn't need some witch talking about "booty holes" lmao.

That's all you , dude.

There is no school in America, even in the most liberal hippie hive, that is forcing boys to "sit in a classroom all day" listening to a gender bending agenda. That is just crap that Fox Broadcasting and the conservative idealogues have promoted to anger idiots so they don't notice the right wing collaborating with a national adversary to subvert the U.S. and seize control.

As long as American idiots are worried about drag queens, they won't notice the Russian helping to flood the streets of America with cheap, accessible guns and hacking into the computers of our government's highest levels.
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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2023, 05:52:51 AM »
Former president Abraham Lincoln was not given lessons on homosexual anal play in his American school system. American Jazz musician Louis Armstrong was not taught how to stimulate prostates. And nor was Jurassic Park writer Michael Crichton taught the ins and outs of LGBT sex acts as part of his curriculum.

The question in the OP was whether a LGBT agenda was being promoted, not whether you agree with it. The teaching of homosexual sex techniques is a new phenomenon the American school system, and is further evidence with all of the other items of a LGBT agenda. Whether you agree with anal stimulation techniques being taught in school is irrelevant to that.

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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2023, 08:50:57 AM »
And nor was Jurassic Park writer Michael Crichton taught the ins and outs of LGBT sex acts as part of his curriculum.

Speaking of which - they also teach about dinosaurs and all kinds of absurdities in middle school. I'm pretty sure that's why he wrote that book. To me that's more important than 1 hour of sex ed that incorporates anal talk, but ok, this thread is about the gender bender agenda. I'm just saying that to me the absurdities that get taught to middle schoolers in the reality of a forced classroom environment are more important than half an hour of high school anal talk.
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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2023, 01:38:29 PM »
The question in the OP was whether a LGBT agenda was being promoted, not whether you agree with it. The teaching of homosexual sex techniques is a new phenomenon the American school system, and is further evidence with all of the other items of a LGBT agenda. Whether you agree with anal stimulation techniques being taught in school is irrelevant to that.
The teaching of any sex techniques is relatively new in the American school system.
It’s certainly debatable what should be taught in this area, but unless homosexual techniques are being taught as preferable to heterosexual ones then how is it an agenda? Because you don’t personally agree with homosexuality?
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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2023, 02:29:48 PM »
Former president Abraham Lincoln was not given lessons on homosexual anal play in his American school system. American Jazz musician Louis Armstrong was not taught how to stimulate prostates. And nor was Jurassic Park writer Michael Crichton taught the ins and outs of LGBT sex acts as part of his curriculum.

The question in the OP was whether a LGBT agenda was being promoted, not whether you agree with it. The teaching of homosexual sex techniques is a new phenomenon the American school system, and is further evidence with all of the other items of a LGBT agenda. Whether you agree with anal stimulation techniques being taught in school is irrelevant to that.

In school, Abraham Lincoln was taught that black people should be slaves. Louis Armstrong went to a school called,"Colored Waif's Home for Boys" and Michael Crichton went to a school that literally had no black people. But at least no one was talking about anal sex.

Kids should learn about sex the traditional way, by stealing pornographic print media and hiding it under their bed.
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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2023, 04:07:43 PM »
Kids should learn about sex the traditional way, by stealing pornographic print media and hiding it under their bed.

Ok boomer. Nowadays any kid can learn about any kind of sex act they want to with a quick Google search and some tissues handy.
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Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2023, 03:55:30 PM »
Dual1ty believes that it's unimportant, and Dr Van Nostrand believes that other schools have (or had) agendas too, while AllAroundTheWorld believes that there is no agenda when a teacher teaches anal stimulation tactics to children as long as they are not saying that it's preferable to heterosexual sex acts.

The only person here trying to claim that there is no LGBT agenda here is AllAroundTheWorld, who believes that the teaching of sex techniques is new to to the school system, but these explicit lessons on anal stimulation is coincidental and has nothing to do with the recent rash of LGBT inclusion and mandates.

Obviously he is wrong and it is all related to the apparent LGBT agenda that is going around.

This phenomena is not unique only to the American school system, however. LGBT indoctrination and hyper-sexualization of children appears to be part of a wider push by the United Nations and is a phenomena manifesting in schools in Europe and worldwide. Lists of articles similar to what I collected a few posts above could be collected for other countries. The United Nations is leading the way and supports the hyper-sexualization of children and early introduction to the homosexual lifestyle:

See: https://stopworldcontrol.com/children/

This page features a number of items and screenshots from documentation in which the UN seems oddly obsessed with having little children masturbating and forming sexual relationships, with an early introduction to LGBT relationships. In the past the people on this forum have defended the hyper-sexualization of children, with AllAroundTheWorld screaming the equivalent of "they HAVE to learn". I am almost certain he would make a similar argument in this case as his form of defense.

Children are not going to take that information and sit on it until they are adults. This is what happens when you hypersexualize children, from the above page:

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