[Realestfake]

There is an incredibly popular notion these days that government is (for many “reasons”) “pushing” some sort of LGBT related agenda in everyone’s face.
It’s a VERY old and extremely common series of events:
-Group A is marginalized by Group B
-Subset of Group B seeks to reduce marginalization of Group A
-Years pass
-Group A now apparently runs everything and there is an active agenda to shove Group A propaganda “down your throat”.

Common example: some hate crime occurs against (trans people, Jews, etc) and the majority of comments will be entertaining the idea that the hate crime was actually faked by le gubment to “make people think trans people experience hate crimes”(?)

Here’s what a lot of people don’t want to realize: LGBT acceptance is NOT the status quo. Conservative outlets will vigorously work to make it seem like LGBT acceptance is this huge powerful evil force reaching into every aspect of society when it’s simply not.

[Action80]

Whenever the term "hate crime," is used, that indicates a definite agenda.

[Lord Dave]

I agree with Action.

The adgenda exists and its fairly simple:
Stop the hate on minority groups.

[Pete Svarrior]

I'm not at all convinced that the notion is "incredibly popular", or even popular at all. It sounds to me like you're mistaking seeing lots of posts on social media expressing that viewpoint for the viewpoint being common.

Please remember that SoMe is extremely unrepresentative of the population, with some voices being artificially amplified or suppressed. This isn't even necessarily intentional - it's just that emotive posting attracts responses, and the recommendation algorithms like engagement.

[Realestfake]

I'm not at all convinced that the notion is "incredibly popular", or even popular at all. It sounds to me like you're mistaking seeing lots of posts on social media expressing that viewpoint for the viewpoint being common.

Please remember that SoMe is extremely unrepresentative of the population, with some voices being artificially amplified or suppressed. This isn't even necessarily intentional - it's just that emotive posting attracts responses, and the recommendation algorithms like engagement.

This is a good point.

[Lord Dave]

I'm not at all convinced that the notion is "incredibly popular", or even popular at all. It sounds to me like you're mistaking seeing lots of posts on social media expressing that viewpoint for the viewpoint being common.

Please remember that SoMe is extremely unrepresentative of the population, with some voices being artificially amplified or suppressed. This isn't even necessarily intentional - it's just that emotive posting attracts responses, and the recommendation algorithms like engagement.

Plus facebook has a "show only related posts" by default so half the time you can't see a reply unless you scrooolll back, select it, then search for the post again.

[Dual1ty]

Common example: some hate crime occurs against (trans people, Jews, etc) and the majority of comments will be entertaining the idea that the hate crime was actually faked by le gubment to “make people think trans people experience hate crimes”(?)

I thought you claimed to be a skeptic a few comments ago? That means you ought to entertain the idea that every time the TV "gives you the facts" it may not be entirely true - especially if there's solid evidence to suggest so.

As a skeptic, can you provide an example of an event - or an official narrative regarding an event - that you are skeptical about?

[Realestfake]

As a skeptic, can you provide an example of an event - or an official narrative regarding an event - that you are skeptical about?

Yes.
The media minimizes the popularity of FE beliefs, with the narrative being that they are a loud minority.

[Dual1ty]

As a skeptic, can you provide an example of an event - or an official narrative regarding an event - that you are skeptical about?

Yes.
The media minimizes the popularity of FE beliefs, with the narrative being that they are a loud minority.

Weren't we talking about hate crime events? FE beliefs representation in MSM isn't even an event. And I beg to differ because they love FE beliefs that they can use as strawmen - the more absurd the better. They just don't love FE facts.

[Dr Van Nostrand]

Weren't we talking about hate crime events? FE beliefs representation in MSM isn't even an event. And I beg to differ because they love FE beliefs that they can use as strawmen - the more absurd the better. They just don't love FE facts.

Sadly, FE does exist in the mainstream... Republican of course...
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kandiss-taylor-globes-anti-flat-earth-brainwashing-1234741082/
But being a Republican, we can't be sure if she's a real FE believer or if she's just pandering to her voting base.

One of the reasons FE ideology doesn't get much serious attention is because how can you take someone seriously who can't even explain the basic geography of the world around them. Why would you waste time talking someone who is baffled by the earth's continents?

I don't care whether the earth is round or flat. If FE could produce a map that was accurate, then we'd have something to talk about.