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Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« on: September 22, 2023, 11:47:15 AM »
Its the telescope that must be level at each observation point not the ground in between and of course close to the same elevation.
If you want to test a hypothesis, you need to remain true to the hypothesis. Arbitrarily throwing parts of it away will invalidate your results. I get that you'd really like to talk about something else, something that makes you more comfortable, but perhaps you could take that elsewhere, too?
The hypothesis is that if the earth was flat a leveled telescope sighted on a distant object would maintain that sight line as it moves further away.  But it does not, it points every further up making the object appear to sink.  Thus the earth is not flat.
Here we have an RE-adherent claiming it is possible for an object to be continuously observed over a flat, level surface at a distance of say...400 miles.
I have made no such claim.  The surface need not be continuously level as long as the telescope is leveled at each point of observation (not continuous observation).  Nor did I give any distance which of course would depend on the height of the target object as well as being limited by visibility conditions.
Of course you did. You wrote that the telescope would need to be leveled. If it is already leveled once and remains on the same level ground, affixed to that point, that's your claim.

You claim the object disappears because a telescope mounted as described eventually ends up somehow pointing up.
The telescope needs to be leveled AT EACH OBSERVATION POINT.  Level is perpendicular to the pull of gravity which makes it tangential to the surface.  Since the earth is round the angle of that tangent plane changes at each observation point resulting in the telescope pointing higher relative to the target as the distance between them increases.
Damn, you need to report this to the surveyors in Kansas...They got their stuff all wrong there...not.../sarcasm.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 22, 2023, 11:42:19 AM »
But tell me again how Biden is cognitively impaired and unfit to be President.  ::)
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Can't you visit your local pre-school and ask one of the students to inform you concerning the facts of this matter?

If you take Brandon along, you would be even more enlightened...amirite?

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« on: September 21, 2023, 02:55:37 PM »
Its the telescope that must be level at each observation point not the ground in between and of course close to the same elevation.
If you want to test a hypothesis, you need to remain true to the hypothesis. Arbitrarily throwing parts of it away will invalidate your results. I get that you'd really like to talk about something else, something that makes you more comfortable, but perhaps you could take that elsewhere, too?
The hypothesis is that if the earth was flat a leveled telescope sighted on a distant object would maintain that sight line as it moves further away.  But it does not, it points every further up making the object appear to sink.  Thus the earth is not flat.
Here we have an RE-adherent claiming it is possible for an object to be continuously observed over a flat, level surface at a distance of say...400 miles.
I have made no such claim.  The surface need not be continuously level as long as the telescope is leveled at each point of observation (not continuous observation).  Nor did I give any distance which of course would depend on the height of the target object as well as being limited by visibility conditions.
Of course you did. You wrote that the telescope would need to be leveled. If it is already leveled once and remains on the same level ground, affixed to that point, that's your claim.

You claim the object disappears because a telescope mounted as described eventually ends up somehow pointing up.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« on: September 20, 2023, 11:48:28 AM »
Its the telescope that must be level at each observation point not the ground in between and of course close to the same elevation.
If you want to test a hypothesis, you need to remain true to the hypothesis. Arbitrarily throwing parts of it away will invalidate your results. I get that you'd really like to talk about something else, something that makes you more comfortable, but perhaps you could take that elsewhere, too?
The hypothesis is that if the earth was flat a leveled telescope sighted on a distant object would maintain that sight line as it moves further away.  But it does not, it points every further up making the object appear to sink.  Thus the earth is not flat.
Here we have an RE-adherent claiming it is possible for an object to be continuously observed over a flat, level surface at a distance of say...400 miles.

Where do these people come from!?!?

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« on: September 11, 2023, 03:45:03 PM »
Well, I certainly do not and will not do dirt for any "brother." And again, the moon landing was bullshit. And I guess, all the reporting did present a heliocentric viewpoint...

Good for you. There are good and bad Freemasons. Just like there are good and bad people. It's really not hard at all to understand.

But knowing what I know now about how certain groups operate, I wouldn't be surprised if they could force you to do dirt, if you have a family they can threaten.
Masons do not go around threatening peoples' families.

Think about your basic argumentation here:

1) Masons do dirt for each other, meaning they help each other; and,
B) Masons are gonna kill their brothers if they don't do the dirt.

Sorry, those things just don't line up. Lots and lots of dissonance in the tune your singing there....

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« on: September 11, 2023, 03:41:58 PM »
Proof?
Still struggling with basic terminology, I see.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« on: September 11, 2023, 12:22:52 PM »
Freemasonry isn't behind any heliocentric worldview. Masons always meet on the level.

When you're part of a conspiracy, you know that you're selling BS to people.

It's not about Freemasonry as a whole. It never was and it never will be. I can count the Freemasons that "went to the Moon" with my fingers. But they were there... in the hangar faking it lol.
The "Moon landing," was definitely bullshit of course. But that has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

Yes it does.

If you meant "prior knowledge of the shape of the Earth is not necessary to fake a Moon landing", then sure. They're just working from a model of the "Solar System" that someone knows is BS. But it doesn't really matter who it is. At the end of the day Freemasonry is just a network of people ready to do dirt for their "brothers". Plain and simple.
Well, I certainly do not and will not do dirt for any "brother." And again, the moon landing was bullshit. And I guess, all the reporting did present a heliocentric viewpoint...

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« on: September 11, 2023, 12:10:44 PM »
Freemasonry isn't behind any heliocentric worldview. Masons always meet on the level.

When you're part of a conspiracy, you know that you're selling BS to people.

It's not about Freemasonry as a whole. It never was and it never will be. I can count the Freemasons that "went to the Moon" with my fingers. But they were there... in the hangar faking it lol.
The "Moon landing," was definitely bullshit of course. But that has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: NASA’s Latest Moon Actors
« on: September 11, 2023, 10:17:39 AM »
Nah, I don't buy it. A conspiracy spanning centuries with no genuine motive in sight just isn't feasible to me, and I'd need more evidence than the fact that a number of these historical astronomers were members of a silly club to convince me otherwise.

What are you talking about? Are you saying that you think heliocentrism is just a coincidence and there is no organized conspiracy associated with it?
Freemasonry isn't behind any heliocentric worldview. Masons always meet on the level.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nothing To See Here (Maui)
« on: September 02, 2023, 08:25:33 PM »
Seems even more unlikely in a hurricane, which typically has alot of rain, making Energy Weapons based on heat largely useless.
Actually, once you catch metal on fire, water is effectively useless in combatting that type of fire. DEW's tend to vaporize other materials.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nothing To See Here (Maui)
« on: August 31, 2023, 07:08:04 PM »
melt one of four aluminim caps (not rims, caps)
The rims were melted, not caps.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nothing To See Here (Maui)
« on: August 31, 2023, 12:33:02 PM »
Speaking of which - how tf did this dog's hair not get burned??

Can you please explain, Mr. Dave??
While the dog hair is unusual, that is not evidence the dog died at that spot while the car was aflame.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nothing To See Here (Maui)
« on: August 31, 2023, 07:37:25 AM »

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nothing To See Here (Maui)
« on: August 30, 2023, 10:55:17 AM »
The establishment isn't even trying to hide it anymore. Plus you don't have the usual suspects here trying to deny this was a total government wipeout and abandonment of its own citizenry.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 28, 2023, 12:40:52 PM »

Since we have the transcript, feel free to quote it.  Also, how does one legally "find" 11,000 votes for Trump?

Read the indictment.

The whole thing details the steps Georgia officials were to take. All of them legal, should the points discussed by Trump and the co-defendants were true.

Progressives are so fucking weak and stupid.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 27, 2023, 04:10:28 PM »
So his own words of "look at this" and "its classified" mean nothing to you?
Yes, it means something to me.


There is no legal way to do that.  Nor did he specify 'legally'.
Wrong and wrong.


Which states that all classified documents are the property of NARA.
And responsibility for management/possession of those documents is placed with the former President.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 27, 2023, 07:46:29 AM »
Again, it is to the benefit of the establishment if any of these cases are successful, as each is a fundamental attack on the First Amendment. The Bill of Rights is the actual target of progressives.

That's not what we were talking about, but in any case, it's not true. Trump isn't being prosecuted for exercising his freedom of speech, or for saying that he believes that the election was stolen. His alleged crimes involved speech, but so do many crimes. Is it an attack on freedom of speech to prosecute a mob boss who orders a hit? To prosecute a blackmailer who threatens to reveal damaging information about someone? To prosecute a spy who passes classified information to someone he knows isn't cleared for it? Likewise, it's not an attack on freedom of speech to prosecute Trump for asking other people to rig the election in his favor, nor for illegally retaining classified documents and showing them to people he knew weren't cleared for it.
Well, that is what I am talking about. Trump is being prosecuted for exercising freedom of speech.
"he hasn't passed classified information to anyone,"
False.  By showing a classified attack plan document to two people who had no authorization to see it, he did.
No, he didn't.

" he never asked anyone to rig an election in his favor,"
He literally called Georgia's governor and asked them to find him enough votes to win.
Using legal means.


 "and he never illegally retained classified documents."
How would he have legally retained them?
Presidential Records Act.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 26, 2023, 04:13:30 PM »
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you can say anything you like in any situation. It’s a common misconception, that.
And here come the meaningless cliches...
By which you of course mean patient explanation of why claiming “free speech” isn’t the silver bullet get out of jail free card you seem to imagine
No, by which I mean your endless trope about "shouting fire in a crowded movie theatre," is useless here as nothing of the sort occurred.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 26, 2023, 11:51:43 AM »
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you can say anything you like in any situation. It’s a common misconception, that.
And here come the meaningless cliches...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 26, 2023, 08:14:22 AM »
Again, it is to the benefit of the establishment if any of these cases are successful, as each is a fundamental attack on the First Amendment. The Bill of Rights is the actual target of progressives.

That's not what we were talking about, but in any case, it's not true. Trump isn't being prosecuted for exercising his freedom of speech, or for saying that he believes that the election was stolen. His alleged crimes involved speech, but so do many crimes. Is it an attack on freedom of speech to prosecute a mob boss who orders a hit? To prosecute a blackmailer who threatens to reveal damaging information about someone? To prosecute a spy who passes classified information to someone he knows isn't cleared for it? Likewise, it's not an attack on freedom of speech to prosecute Trump for asking other people to rig the election in his favor, nor for illegally retaining classified documents and showing them to people he knew weren't cleared for it.
Well, that is what I am talking about. Trump is being prosecuted for exercising freedom of speech.

He hasn't ordered a hit on anyone, he hasn't passed classified information to anyone, he never asked anyone to rig an election in his favor, and he never illegally retained classified documents.

This whole thing is a farce.

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