The Flat Earth Society
Other Discussion Boards => Philosophy, Religion & Society => Topic started by: Realestfake on May 24, 2023, 10:06:43 PM
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There is an incredibly popular notion these days that government is (for many “reasons”) “pushing” some sort of LGBT related agenda in everyone’s face.
It’s a VERY old and extremely common series of events:
-Group A is marginalized by Group B
-Subset of Group B seeks to reduce marginalization of Group A
-Years pass
-Group A now apparently runs everything and there is an active agenda to shove Group A propaganda “down your throat”.
Common example: some hate crime occurs against (trans people, Jews, etc) and the majority of comments will be entertaining the idea that the hate crime was actually faked by le gubment to “make people think trans people experience hate crimes”(?)
Here’s what a lot of people don’t want to realize: LGBT acceptance is NOT the status quo. Conservative outlets will vigorously work to make it seem like LGBT acceptance is this huge powerful evil force reaching into every aspect of society when it’s simply not.
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Whenever the term "hate crime," is used, that indicates a definite agenda.
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I agree with Action.
The adgenda exists and its fairly simple:
Stop the hate on minority groups.
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I'm not at all convinced that the notion is "incredibly popular", or even popular at all. It sounds to me like you're mistaking seeing lots of posts on social media expressing that viewpoint for the viewpoint being common.
Please remember that SoMe is extremely unrepresentative of the population, with some voices being artificially amplified or suppressed. This isn't even necessarily intentional - it's just that emotive posting attracts responses, and the recommendation algorithms like engagement.
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I'm not at all convinced that the notion is "incredibly popular", or even popular at all. It sounds to me like you're mistaking seeing lots of posts on social media expressing that viewpoint for the viewpoint being common.
Please remember that SoMe is extremely unrepresentative of the population, with some voices being artificially amplified or suppressed. This isn't even necessarily intentional - it's just that emotive posting attracts responses, and the recommendation algorithms like engagement.
This is a good point.
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I'm not at all convinced that the notion is "incredibly popular", or even popular at all. It sounds to me like you're mistaking seeing lots of posts on social media expressing that viewpoint for the viewpoint being common.
Please remember that SoMe is extremely unrepresentative of the population, with some voices being artificially amplified or suppressed. This isn't even necessarily intentional - it's just that emotive posting attracts responses, and the recommendation algorithms like engagement.
Plus facebook has a "show only related posts" by default so half the time you can't see a reply unless you scrooolll back, select it, then search for the post again.
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Common example: some hate crime occurs against (trans people, Jews, etc) and the majority of comments will be entertaining the idea that the hate crime was actually faked by le gubment to “make people think trans people experience hate crimes”(?)
I thought you claimed to be a skeptic a few comments ago? That means you ought to entertain the idea that every time the TV "gives you the facts" it may not be entirely true - especially if there's solid evidence to suggest so.
As a skeptic, can you provide an example of an event - or an official narrative regarding an event - that you are skeptical about?
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As a skeptic, can you provide an example of an event - or an official narrative regarding an event - that you are skeptical about?
Yes.
The media minimizes the popularity of FE beliefs, with the narrative being that they are a loud minority.
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As a skeptic, can you provide an example of an event - or an official narrative regarding an event - that you are skeptical about?
Yes.
The media minimizes the popularity of FE beliefs, with the narrative being that they are a loud minority.
Weren't we talking about hate crime events? FE beliefs representation in MSM isn't even an event. And I beg to differ because they love FE beliefs that they can use as strawmen - the more absurd the better. They just don't love FE facts.
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Weren't we talking about hate crime events? FE beliefs representation in MSM isn't even an event. And I beg to differ because they love FE beliefs that they can use as strawmen - the more absurd the better. They just don't love FE facts.
Sadly, FE does exist in the mainstream... Republican of course...
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kandiss-taylor-globes-anti-flat-earth-brainwashing-1234741082/
But being a Republican, we can't be sure if she's a real FE believer or if she's just pandering to her voting base.
One of the reasons FE ideology doesn't get much serious attention is because how can you take someone seriously who can't even explain the basic geography of the world around them. Why would you waste time talking someone who is baffled by the earth's continents?
I don't care whether the earth is round or flat. If FE could produce a map that was accurate, then we'd have something to talk about.
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There sure seems to be an agenda here to me -
October 6, 2017 - New Law Being Used to Spread LGBT Gender Identity Ideology into CA Public Schools (https://www.californiafamily.org/2017/10/new-law-being-used-to-spread-lgbt-gender-identity-ideology-into-ca-public-schools/)
Apr 19, 2018 - California school district says parents can’t pull kids from new LGBT sex ed -
The approved materials teach kids about using fruit as 'sex toys.' (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/california-school-district-says-parents-cant-pull-kids-from-new-lgbt-sex-ed/)
May 3, 2018 - Mandatory LGBT History Lessons for Schoolchildren Approved by Illinois Senate (https://www.newsweek.com/mandatory-lgbt-history-lessons-school-children-illinois-senate-909329)
October 31, 2019 - Texas School District mandates transgender education for 8-year-olds (https://www.sott.net/article/422979-Texas-School-District-mandates-transgender-education-for-8-year-olds)
Jul 22, 2019 - Oregon mandates K–12 LGBT identity curricula in civics, geography - Public school children will be exposed to content regarding sexuality in all courses dealing with civics, economics, geography, government, and history. (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/oregon-mandates-k12-lgbt-identity-curricula-in-civics-geography/)
11 Aug 2019 - Illinois Governor Mandates LGBT History Curriculum for Public Schools (https://www.upward.news/bidens-executive-order-amends-title-ix-for-lgbt-students/)
February 9, 2020 - Mandated LGBT Indoctrination at School Begins in N.J. (https://thenewamerican.com/mandated-lgbt-indoctrination-at-school-begins-in-n-j/)
January 21, 2021 - Biden executive order says schools should include transgender athletes in girls' sports -
The order was released on the first day of his presidency (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-executive-order-schools-transgender-athletes-girls-sports)
September 2, 2021 - 20 States Sue Biden Over Transgender Mandate in Schools Allowing Biological Boys to Compete Against Girls (https://resistthemainstream.com/20-states-sue-biden-over-transgender-mandate-in-schools/)
September 23, 2021 - Sex-ed curriculum used in Richfield schools asks students to role play gay sex scenarios (https://alphanews.org/sex-ed-richfield/)
Mar 22, 2022 - Austin elementary school holds Pride parade, instructs students not to reveal what is said in 'community circles' (https://thepostmillennial.com/austin-elementary-school-holds-pride-parade-instructs-students-not-to-reveal-what-is-said-in-community-circles)
May 25, 2022 - Federalist - Biden Admin: K-12 Schools Must Put Boys In Girls’ Bathrooms To Get Federal Lunch Money (https://thefederalist.com/2022/05/25/biden-admin-k-12-schools-must-put-boys-in-girls-bathrooms-to-get-federal-lunch-money/)
May 30, 2022 - New Biden administration rule will tie federal education funding to LGBT mandates (https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/new-biden-administration-rule-will-tie-federal-education-funding-lgbt)
Jun. 18, 2022 - Fairfax County, Virginia Schools Now Mandating How Transgender Students Must Be Referred To (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/fairfax-county-virginia-schools-now-mandating-transgender-students-must-referred/)
Jun 28, 2022 - Biden's Executive Order Mandates LGBT In Schools (https://www.upward.news/bidens-executive-order-amends-title-ix-for-lgbt-students/)
July 2022 - Elementary School Being Built With Complete Genderless Bathrooms (https://go2tutors.com/elementary-school-genderless-bathrooms/)
July 17 2022 - Judge blocks Biden admin's transgender school bathroom rule (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-biden-admin-transgender-school-bathroom-athletes)
September 8, 2022 - Lawmakers ask Biden to rescind policy tying school funding to LGBT mandates (https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/biden-policy-tying-school-funding-lgbt-mandates-comes-under-scrutiny)
October 6, 2022 - Biden administration demands Alabama embrace genderless schools or else (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biden-administration-demands-alabama-embrace-genderless-schools-or-else-we-arent-giving-in)
Dec 12, 2022 - Chicago Public Schools Announces That It Will Be Moving To Genderless Bathrooms (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/chicago-public-schools-announces-will-moving-genderless-bathrooms-creepy-video-featuring-elementary-students-bathrooms-will-open-use-anyone-feels-comfortable/)
May 30, 2023 - California Teacher Secretly Recorded Teaching Explicit Gay Sex Techniques And Sex Toy Recommendations To School Kids w/o Parental Knowledge. Video Enclosed (https://twitter.com/kellyske/status/1663691373139329027)
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I only looked at the last link.
Boy is that misleading.
1. A sex-ed class talking about anal sex and why its pleasurable along side vaginal sex and why its pleasurable go hand in hand. Plus, it works for pegging. Ya know, woman fucking a man analy with a strapon?
2. Sex toys. Yes, they exist. Highschoolers already know about them. Why are you shocked its part of the curriculum on sex ed in high school? What, you think they should teach "when you marry a woman, have yourself hlget a hard penis then out it into her vagina until you feel stuff come out. Ok, class done."?
I'll have to read the others later.
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I only looked at the last link.
Boy is that misleading.
1. A sex-ed class talking about anal sex and why its pleasurable along side vaginal sex and why its pleasurable go hand in hand. Plus, it works for pegging. Ya know, woman fucking a man analy with a strapon?
2. Sex toys. Yes, they exist. Highschoolers already know about them. Why are you shocked its part of the curriculum on sex ed in high school? What, you think they should teach "when you marry a woman, have yourself hlget a hard penis then out it into her vagina until you feel stuff come out. Ok, class done."?
I'll have to read the others later.
Yeah, that one's pretty stupid. Only conservatives are outraged at that. But there definitely is a gender bender agenda, though. The very fact that they're forcing boys to sit in a classroom all day listening to some BS is already evidence of that if you ask me. If I was their age (and they're definitely not children) and I wanted to learn about anal sex, I would just go to some porn site. I definitely wouldn't need some witch talking about "booty holes" lmao.
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Yeah, that one's pretty stupid. Only conservatives are outraged at that. But there definitely is a gender bender agenda, though. The very fact that they're forcing boys to sit in a classroom all day listening to some BS is already evidence of that if you ask me. If I was their age (and they're definitely not children) and I wanted to learn about anal sex, I would just go to some porn site. I definitely wouldn't need some witch talking about "booty holes" lmao.
That's all you , dude.
There is no school in America, even in the most liberal hippie hive, that is forcing boys to "sit in a classroom all day" listening to a gender bending agenda. That is just crap that Fox Broadcasting and the conservative idealogues have promoted to anger idiots so they don't notice the right wing collaborating with a national adversary to subvert the U.S. and seize control.
As long as American idiots are worried about drag queens, they won't notice the Russian helping to flood the streets of America with cheap, accessible guns and hacking into the computers of our government's highest levels.
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Former president Abraham Lincoln was not given lessons on homosexual anal play in his American school system. American Jazz musician Louis Armstrong was not taught how to stimulate prostates. And nor was Jurassic Park writer Michael Crichton taught the ins and outs of LGBT sex acts as part of his curriculum.
The question in the OP was whether a LGBT agenda was being promoted, not whether you agree with it. The teaching of homosexual sex techniques is a new phenomenon the American school system, and is further evidence with all of the other items of a LGBT agenda. Whether you agree with anal stimulation techniques being taught in school is irrelevant to that.
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And nor was Jurassic Park writer Michael Crichton taught the ins and outs of LGBT sex acts as part of his curriculum.
Speaking of which - they also teach about dinosaurs and all kinds of absurdities in middle school. I'm pretty sure that's why he wrote that book. To me that's more important than 1 hour of sex ed that incorporates anal talk, but ok, this thread is about the gender bender agenda. I'm just saying that to me the absurdities that get taught to middle schoolers in the reality of a forced classroom environment are more important than half an hour of high school anal talk.
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The question in the OP was whether a LGBT agenda was being promoted, not whether you agree with it. The teaching of homosexual sex techniques is a new phenomenon the American school system, and is further evidence with all of the other items of a LGBT agenda. Whether you agree with anal stimulation techniques being taught in school is irrelevant to that.
The teaching of any sex techniques is relatively new in the American school system.
It’s certainly debatable what should be taught in this area, but unless homosexual techniques are being taught as preferable to heterosexual ones then how is it an agenda? Because you don’t personally agree with homosexuality?
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Former president Abraham Lincoln was not given lessons on homosexual anal play in his American school system. American Jazz musician Louis Armstrong was not taught how to stimulate prostates. And nor was Jurassic Park writer Michael Crichton taught the ins and outs of LGBT sex acts as part of his curriculum.
The question in the OP was whether a LGBT agenda was being promoted, not whether you agree with it. The teaching of homosexual sex techniques is a new phenomenon the American school system, and is further evidence with all of the other items of a LGBT agenda. Whether you agree with anal stimulation techniques being taught in school is irrelevant to that.
In school, Abraham Lincoln was taught that black people should be slaves. Louis Armstrong went to a school called,"Colored Waif's Home for Boys" and Michael Crichton went to a school that literally had no black people. But at least no one was talking about anal sex.
Kids should learn about sex the traditional way, by stealing pornographic print media and hiding it under their bed.
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Kids should learn about sex the traditional way, by stealing pornographic print media and hiding it under their bed.
Ok boomer. Nowadays any kid can learn about any kind of sex act they want to with a quick Google search and some tissues handy.
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Dual1ty believes that it's unimportant, and Dr Van Nostrand believes that other schools have (or had) agendas too, while AllAroundTheWorld believes that there is no agenda when a teacher teaches anal stimulation tactics to children as long as they are not saying that it's preferable to heterosexual sex acts.
The only person here trying to claim that there is no LGBT agenda here is AllAroundTheWorld, who believes that the teaching of sex techniques is new to to the school system, but these explicit lessons on anal stimulation is coincidental and has nothing to do with the recent rash of LGBT inclusion and mandates.
Obviously he is wrong and it is all related to the apparent LGBT agenda that is going around.
This phenomena is not unique only to the American school system, however. LGBT indoctrination and hyper-sexualization of children appears to be part of a wider push by the United Nations and is a phenomena manifesting in schools in Europe and worldwide. Lists of articles similar to what I collected a few posts above could be collected for other countries. The United Nations is leading the way and supports the hyper-sexualization of children and early introduction to the homosexual lifestyle:
See: https://stopworldcontrol.com/children/
This page features a number of items and screenshots from documentation in which the UN seems oddly obsessed with having little children masturbating and forming sexual relationships, with an early introduction to LGBT relationships. In the past the people on this forum have defended the hyper-sexualization of children, with AllAroundTheWorld screaming the equivalent of "they HAVE to learn". I am almost certain he would make a similar argument in this case as his form of defense.
Children are not going to take that information and sit on it until they are adults. This is what happens when you hypersexualize children, from the above page:
(https://i.imgur.com/ymDdZLK.png)
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Is there a LGBTQ agenda? Sure. There is an agenda to be more accepted in society, and it's a direct response to the other side's anti-LGBTQ agenda, which has existed for centuries. If it wasn't for certain people working to demonize gay bi trans and queer people and systematically working to take away our rights as human beings it wouldn't be necessary and it wouldn't exist. If some groups have taken it too far that's a shame but obviously Tom's cherry-picked examples don't represent the mainstream.
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Yes, it is a mainstream phenomena. There is a mainstream phenomena which has built up and has resulted in 20% of Gen Z claiming to be LGBTQ.
https://twitter.com/remnantposting/status/1637790590938275845
Here is another source with similar figures: Poll: Nearly 20% of Gen Z say they identify as LGBTQ (https://www.kxan.com/lgbtq/poll-nearly-20-of-gen-z-say-they-identify-as-lgbtq/) - "When Gallup broke down the results to other age groups, the rate of LGBTQ identification was 11.2% among millennials and 3.3% or less among older generations."
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Yes, it is a mainstream phenomena. There is a mainstream phenomena which has built up and has resulted in 20% of Gen Z claiming to be LGBTQ.
Hmm.. Gen Z makes up about 20% of the population. So 20% of 20%, or about 4%, of the population claims to be LGBTQ. I'm not sure about you, but 4% doesn't sound mainstream to me.
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Tom Bishop, if I understand you correctly, you're implying that it's possible to turn someone gay through indoctrination. Like how? Hypersexualization? I've personally experienced being in a hypersexual state before and it was all straight stuff. The only time I felt SLIGHTLY homosexual was when I took a big hit of pure MDMA when I was partying a lot in one of the most well-known partying spots in the world. And that was just a fleeting feeling, I didn't even remotely act on it. ::)
When I say that there's definitely a gender bender agenda going on, I'm talking about feminization and masculinization, not homosexuality. But ok, maybe the argument is that they go hand in hand? I still don't see how it's possible to turn someone gay through indoctrination, though.
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Yes, it is a mainstream phenomena. There is a mainstream phenomena which has built up and has resulted in 20% of Gen Z claiming to be LGBTQ.
https://twitter.com/remnantposting/status/1637790590938275845
Here is another source with similar figures: Poll: Nearly 20% of Gen Z say they identify as LGBTQ (https://www.kxan.com/lgbtq/poll-nearly-20-of-gen-z-say-they-identify-as-lgbtq/) - "When Gallup broke down the results to other age groups, the rate of LGBTQ identification was 11.2% among millennials and 3.3% or less among older generations."
Tom, I never said that the LGBTQ agenda isn't mainstream, I said that teachers showing their students various anal sex techniques, or how to pleasure themselves with a carrot (make sure the end is smoothed down and not pointy, for example), isn't mainstream.
What you're showing here is not an indication that more people are turning gay, it's an indication that people are getting more comfortable with who they really are. It's a sign that LGBTQ people feel more accepted. Which is exactly what the agenda is trying to accomplish.
The idea that the kinds of things the Left is doing to increase acceptance is actively making kids gay or want to be another gender is patently absurd, not borne out by the evidence, and exactly the kind of demonizing that your people have pushed for centuries, and led to the necessity of the LGBTQ agenda.
Y'all brought this on yourselves, sorry to say. :(
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The problem with defending this LGBT propaganda and sexual content is that its defenders assume that the children are as rational as adults. Children are not adults. They are not capable or rational thought or deep introspection. Hypersexualizing children and indoctrinating them with LGBT propaganda clearly affects them. Today children are taught with fun and colorful imagery at a young age that being gay makes you super special, and is a matter of celebration.
This isn't merely education that LGBT people exist. This is clearly propaganda which goes to lengths to paint it as cool, adventurous, joyous, etc. Children's content is replete with smiling people having fun, messages that they should be wowed that someone is gay, wowed at the concept of gayness, with an underlying implication that it's something they should aspire to be too, all before they have a grasp of human sexuality.
(https://i.imgur.com/3ATKuIf.jpg)
If you are queer, you are a hero:
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2020-06/10/10/asset/6101b81e4aad/sub-buzz-1690-1591783587-14.jpg?downsize=600:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto)
If you are Transgender, you are awesome:
(https://i.imgur.com/qBTzBVQ.jpg)
Pinks is a boys color:
(https://i.imgur.com/pBy5jgb.png)
Crossdressing is awesome:
"Can Molly find the courage to follow her heart and get her mom to realize just how awesome she'd look in a tux?" (source (https://i.imgur.com/XEhZdld.jpg))
(https://i.imgur.com/XEhZdld.jpg)
Being LGBT is amazing fun, look how much fun this girl/person is having:
(https://i.imgur.com/KN86eTt.jpg)
If the goal was to educate children, they would simply be sterilely informed that gay people exist as a textbook matter. What they are doing is promotion, not education.
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Yeah, but how much cherrypicking is that, I wonder? Obviously all that gets amplified by conservative outlets / voices, because that's how politics works these days. It's outrage culture in full effect.
Other than that, simply don't buy your children those books lol. There are plenty of books that are garbage, that's not a books for kids thing only.
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The problem with defending this LGBT propaganda and sexual content is that the counter-arguments assume that the children are as rational as adults. Children are not adults. They are not capable or rational thought or deep introspection. Hypersexualizing children and indoctrinating them with LGBT propaganda clearly affects them. Today children are taught with fun and colorful imagery at a young age that being gay makes you super special, and is a matter of celebration.
Again, this idea that children are being hypersexualized as a result of the agenda is false. You just cherry-pick the most extreme examples that you can find and represent them as mainstream (a gimmick the Right has been using since before Rush's heyday) which they most definitely are not.
If children are being taught with "fun and colorful imagery" that it's okay to be gay (not that being gay makes you super-special, again that's clearly not happening in any kind of mainstream context), it's because fun and colorful imagery is what children respond to. It's not evidence of some nefarious plot to make more gay people. What a silly and absurd notion.
And really, a child's lack of intellectual development has nothing to do with this. Again you are under the weird impression that people make a conscious choice to be gay. That doesn't happen. In my generation it often wasn't wanted and led to shame and hiding, even misguided and futile attempts to change. Thank God the LGBTQ agenda is finally showing results that suggest it's fixing that.
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I mean, if they tried to make me gay as a kid I would just laugh at them. That's what I did when they tried to make me a Christian.
And it's not even comparable because I'm pretty sure that you're born straight if you're straight and that's it. One of my childhood friends was always gay since as far back as I can remember, and no one was telling him or forcing him to be gay, and he wasn't gaining any social points either. In fact, he was in the closet for a long time.
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Nope. It's not cherrypicked. It's a growing phenomenon which is seen in mass-market and which schools have been embracing. See what is happening with this curriculum in Canada:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBkcVtHXiLs
"the Sogi curriculum
started in British Columbia in 2016 and
is quickly spreading throughout Canada"
(https://i.imgur.com/kx6OYOK.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/c4eLVqh.jpg)
On the Sogi site it clams to be present in some capacity in 60 of 60 school districts in Canada https://www.sogieducation.org/results
(https://i.imgur.com/iMksc4u.png)
Canada has 60 school districts - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_districts_in_British_Columbia - "This is a list of school districts in British Columbia. British Columbia in Canada is divided into 60 school districts which administer publicly funded education until the end of grade 12 in local areas or, in the case of francophone education, across the province."
The Sogi site in the above link claims to have 2500+ "Sogi leads", presumably administrators or educators in various schools in Canada who have embraced the curriculum.
(https://i.imgur.com/xxCkEvj.png)
With this kind of network there are clearly tens of thousands of children in Canada being affected by this one LGBT organization alone.
Canada has about 10,100 elementary schools (https://ruggedthuglife.com/canada/how-many-elementary-schools-are-there-in-canada/), for comparison.
Back to the video, it demonstrates that they are using teaching aids such as the 10,000 Dresses children book:
(https://i.imgur.com/21ek17w.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/MLFpmAh.jpg)
https://www.amazon.com/10-000-Dresses-Marcus-Ewert/dp/1583228500
Book description: "Every night, Bailey dreams about magical dresses: dresses made of crystals and rainbows, dresses made of flowers, dresses made of windows. . . . Unfortunately, when Bailey's awake, no one wants to hear about these beautiful dreams. Quite the contrary. "You're a BOY!" Mother and Father tell Bailey. "You shouldn't be thinking about dresses at all." Then Bailey meets Laurel, an older girl who is touched and inspired by Bailey's imagination and courage. In friendship, the two of them begin making dresses together. And Bailey's dreams come true!"
The boy's dreams came true! This is clearly a propaganda book to paint crossdressing in a positive light, taught in a Canadian classroom in a curriculum which is described in the video and on the organization's website itself to have spread all throughout Canada in growing popularity. Many other schools or districts decide on their own to stock these types of books without joining an organized network like this.
The video goes on to describe that children complain about being confused about their gender.
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Ok, thanks for the info. One more reason to get your kids the hell out of there if you have them. Or one more reason to not have them lol.
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According to an organization called the Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty these are not isolated incidents. Teacher's universities are instructing teachers in their education programs to teach these things to young children:
https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/08/16/public-school-teachers-told-to-indoctrinate-kids-as-young-as-three-in-radical-lgbt-theory/
“There’s a huge amount of liberal indoctrination going on,” the report’s author, Will Flanders, told “Washington Watch” guest host Joseph Backholm on Monday. “We found it across every public university in the state that has an education program.”
Flanders, the research director at the Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty, performed a wide-ranging records search across all public universities in Wisconsin that teach education. He and co-author Dylan Palmer asked for the syllabus, assignments, and reading list for education courses—the classes future teachers needed to pass in order to teach in the state’s public schools.
The 44-page report found that many of these courses begin by defining biblical morality as beyond the pale. The “Multicultural Education” course at the University of Wisconsin at Superior forces students to take the “Human Relations Attitude Inventory,” which asks how strongly students agree with such statements as: “Homosexuality is unnatural because it is contrary to human nature”; “We should not notice differences in people’s skin color”; and “Whites are just as likely to be victims of racism as racial minorities”—all of which the course intends for students to reject.
Once the university changes students’ personal morality, it instructs them to begin introducing radical gender theory to children as young as three. At UW-Whitewater, students read a chapter titled “Just Another Gay Day in the Campus Three-Year-Old Room,” which tells students to include LGBTQ “lessons with a three-year-old day care center.”
At UW-Green Bay, would-be pedagogues must read the book “Safe Is Not Enough: Better Schools for LGBTQ Students” by Michael Sadowski, which the report explains “argues that teachers must bring conversation about gender and sexual identity into the classroom, encourage advocacy, and foster the LGBTQ identification of young students.”
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“When we’re looking for the origins of the stuff that we are seeing in our classroom today, what we’re learning here is it’s not just teachers organically coming up with this stuff themselves,” explained Flanders. “Instead, it’s the process that’s been going on for years and years throughout their entire education.”
Disturbing.
Another look at news articles from the last couple of years seems to show that many schools are on board with an indoctrination agenda.
November 2022 - Maryland school district unveils LGBTQ book list that teaches words 'intersex,' 'drag queen' to pre-K students (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maryland-school-district-unveils-lgbtq-book-list-teaches-words-intersex-drag-queen-pre-k-students)
May 2022 - North Carolina preschool uses LGBT flashcards depicting a pregnant man to teach kids colors (https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-carolina-preschool-pregnant-man)
April 2022 - Washington state, Oregon teach kindergartners 'there are many ways to express gender' (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/washington-state-oregon-kindergartners-many-ways-express-gender)
May 2022 - CO mom says middle school invited her daughter to secret LGBTQ club, told students to keep info from parents (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mom-middle-school-secret-lgbtq-club-students-parents)
May 2022 - School attempts to hide student's gender transition from parents, pushes LGBTQ+ content for middle schoolers (https://www.foxnews.com/media/school-hide-students-gender-transition-lgbtq-content-parents)
May 2022 - Seven books that show NYC is pushing transgenderism, LGBTQ+ curriculum to kids as young as kindergarten (https://www.foxnews.com/media/top-7-radical-left-books-new-york-city-universak-mosaic-curriculum)
June 2022 - Oregon school district books contain pornographic imagery of sex acts, according to portal - An Oregon mom pulled her children out of school over what she called 'indoctrination' (https://www.foxnews.com/media/oregon-school-district-books-contains-pornographic-sex-acts)
August 2022 - School district that removed LGBT books from library hit with civil rights investigation (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/school-district-that-removed-lgbt-books-from-library-hit-with-civil-rights-investigation/ar-AA15v3A5)
October 2022 - California Christian Teacher Fired for Refusing to Read LGBT Books to Children (https://www.californiafamily.org/2022/10/california-christian-teacher-fired-for-refusing-to-read-lgbt-books-to-children/)
December 2022 - Parents accuse school of secretly indoctrinating 8-year-olds in trans ideology: 'Shocked and horrified' - The school read a children's book to young students that claimed some 3-year-olds can be 'non-binary' (https://www.foxnews.com/world/parents-accuse-school-secretly-indoctrinating-8-year-olds-trans-ideology-shocked-horrified)
March 2023 - I was a public school teacher and I'm blowing the whistle on transgenderism before its too late - Those who are aware of what's happening in our schools are obligated to blow the whistle (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/public-school-teacher-blowing-whistle-transgenderism-before-too-late)
April 2023 - School allows reading of LGBT book to second-graders - Despite state law requiring parental consent (https://www.wnd.com/2023/04/school-allows-reading-lgbt-book-second-graders/)
April 2023 - Teacher caught berating kids who object to LGBTQ lesson with severe threat: 'You don't have a choice' (https://www.foxnews.com/world/teacher-caught-berating-kids-who-object-lgbtq-lesson-severe-threat-you-dont-have-choice)
May 2023 - Parents sue Maryland’s largest school district for not letting kids opt out of LGBT book readings (https://www.christianpost.com/news/parents-sue-school-district-for-requiring-kids-to-read-lgbt-books.html)
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One of the things that shocked me about the SOGI website was how a message popped up asking for donations to "Help protect the freedoms of 2SLGBTQ+ youth this PRIDE month!". Like what in Satan's name is 2SLGBTQ+? Could they even say 2SLGBTQIA+ and get away with it? Sounds like something Elon would come up with as a name for his child.
It definitely seems worse than I thought, I'll give you that.
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There's something very weird about the assumption that being gay is inherently sexual, but being straight is normal and non-sexual. That always seems to be taken for granted by these "protect the children" anti-LGBT crusader types, although they usually know better than to spell it out explicitly. If kids can learn about straight people and straight relationships via their lessons and readings - and they do - then there's no reason why they can't learn about gay people too.
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It’s because it’s an emotional argument that must be disguised as a logical one.
There is no reason why kids can see a Disney princess kiss a Disney prince AOK, but a similar scene replaced with a Disney Prince kissing another Disney prince becomes bad.
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The only person here trying to claim that there is no LGBT agenda here is AllAroundTheWorld, who believes that the teaching of sex techniques is new to to the school system
It is new. Was Abraham Lincoln taught about any sexual techniques?
but these explicit lessons on anal stimulation is coincidental and has nothing to do with the recent rash of LGBT inclusion and mandates.
Holy straw man, Batman!
Of course it's not coincidental. As homosexuality has become accepted lessons have become more inclusive.
And there is definitely a debate to be had about whether kids should be taught any sexual techniques in school.
As Roundy says, there is an LBGTQ agenda to be more accepted in society. Your real issue is you don't believe they should be accepted in society, you've already said you think gay children should be ashamed of who they are.
So you conflate acceptance/inclusion with promotion/indoctrination.
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Wonder why the hormone therapy being pushed by government is designed to give the person the body the person thinks they have, rather than a hormone therapy designed to set the mind straight with the body that is currently in existence.
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Wonder why the hormone therapy being pushed by government is designed to give the person the body the person thinks they have, rather than a hormone therapy designed to set the mind straight with the body that is currently in existence.
Because there isn't one. If there were, we'd be pushing that. But there isn't a hormone to rewire the brain.
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Wonder why the hormone therapy being pushed by government is designed to give the person the body the person thinks they have, rather than a hormone therapy designed to set the mind straight with the body that is currently in existence.
Because there isn't one. If there were, we'd be pushing that. But there isn't a hormone to rewire the brain.
Who said anything about rewiring? Hormones most certainly play a part in how a person thinks. No need to rewire.
https://drbrighten.com/hormones-affect-brain-health/
(https://drbrighten.com/hormones-affect-brain-health/)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6422548/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6422548/)
Seems there is a government agenda.
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Wonder why the hormone therapy being pushed by government is designed to give the person the body the person thinks they have, rather than a hormone therapy designed to set the mind straight with the body that is currently in existence.
Which government is pushing hormone therapy?
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Hormone therapy = more Big Bucks for Big Pharma, corrupt politicians and regulators.
And some of the powerful psychos enjoy turning the frogs gay and your children into drag queens.
A perfect combination from Hell.
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Wonder why the hormone therapy being pushed by government is designed to give the person the body the person thinks they have, rather than a hormone therapy designed to set the mind straight with the body that is currently in existence.
Because there isn't one. If there were, we'd be pushing that. But there isn't a hormone to rewire the brain.
Who said anything about rewiring? Hormones most certainly play a part in how a person thinks. No need to rewire.
https://drbrighten.com/hormones-affect-brain-health/
(https://drbrighten.com/hormones-affect-brain-health/)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6422548/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6422548/)
Seems there is a government agenda.
Sure they can affect your thinking. Now which hormone makes you cis?
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Wonder why the hormone therapy being pushed by government is designed to give the person the body the person thinks they have, rather than a hormone therapy designed to set the mind straight with the body that is currently in existence.
Because there isn't one. If there were, we'd be pushing that. But there isn't a hormone to rewire the brain.
Who said anything about rewiring? Hormones most certainly play a part in how a person thinks. No need to rewire.
https://drbrighten.com/hormones-affect-brain-health/
(https://drbrighten.com/hormones-affect-brain-health/)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6422548/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6422548/)
Seems there is a government agenda.
Sure they can affect your thinking. Now which hormone makes you cis?
I see...offer up a faulty brain that cannot be "rewired," and then claim that hormones make "cis." Really, you must pull in a killing doing standup...your post is bereft of reason.
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Wonder why the hormone therapy being pushed by government is designed to give the person the body the person thinks they have, rather than a hormone therapy designed to set the mind straight with the body that is currently in existence.
Because there isn't one. If there were, we'd be pushing that. But there isn't a hormone to rewire the brain.
Who said anything about rewiring? Hormones most certainly play a part in how a person thinks. No need to rewire.
https://drbrighten.com/hormones-affect-brain-health/
(https://drbrighten.com/hormones-affect-brain-health/)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6422548/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6422548/)
Seems there is a government agenda.
Sure they can affect your thinking. Now which hormone makes you cis?
I see...offer up a faulty brain that cannot be "rewired," and then claim that hormones make "cis." Really, you must pull in a killing doing standup...your post is bereft of reason.
You made the claim that you can fix gender dysphoria with hormones. CIS is the "normal" person. Ie. Straight and the gender of their body.
So tell me which hormones do we give someone to make them from trans to CIS?
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You made the claim that you can fix gender dysphoria with hormones. CIS is the "normal" person. Ie. Straight and the gender of their body.
So tell me which hormones do we give someone to make them from trans to CIS?
Where did I make a claim?
I have made no claim.
I wondered as to why there is no hormone therapy designed to make the brain match the body the person was born with. The only therapy offered is to make the body match the brain.
You, on the other hand, made THE CLAIM there is no hormone therapy to "rewire," the brain (which is utter bullshit, to begin with. You knew it when you wrote it, and if you didn't know it, then you have zero business even posting in this thread).
The brain is already wired with the effects of hormones. That is a damn fact.
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You made the claim that you can fix gender dysphoria with hormones. CIS is the "normal" person. Ie. Straight and the gender of their body.
So tell me which hormones do we give someone to make them from trans to CIS?
Where did I make a claim?
I have made no claim.
I wondered as to why there is no hormone therapy designed to make the brain match the body the person was born with. The only therapy offered is to make the body match the the brain.
You, on the other hand, made THE CLAIM there is no hormone therapy to "rewire," the brain (which is utter bullshit, to begin with. You knew it when you wrote it, and if you didn't know it, then you have zero business even posting in this thread).
The brain is already wired with the effects of hormones. That is a damn fact.
.... There is no hormone to rewire the brain. Hornones affect the brain, but it doesn't change the connections between neurons. It can certainly promote reinforced behavior but testosterone won't make you go from thinking you're a girl to thinking you're a boy.
And really, you should be happy no research was done. Imagine if the government could put something in your water and make you a gay and trans?
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You made the claim that you can fix gender dysphoria with hormones. CIS is the "normal" person. Ie. Straight and the gender of their body.
So tell me which hormones do we give someone to make them from trans to CIS?
Where did I make a claim?
I have made no claim.
I wondered as to why there is no hormone therapy designed to make the brain match the body the person was born with. The only therapy offered is to make the body match the the brain.
You, on the other hand, made THE CLAIM there is no hormone therapy to "rewire," the brain (which is utter bullshit, to begin with. You knew it when you wrote it, and if you didn't know it, then you have zero business even posting in this thread).
The brain is already wired with the effects of hormones. That is a damn fact.
.... There is no hormone to rewire the brain. Hornones affect the brain, but it doesn't change the connections between neurons. It can certainly promote reinforced behavior but testosterone won't make you go from thinking you're a girl to thinking you're a boy.
And really, you should be happy no research was done. Imagine if the government could put something in your water and make you a gay and trans?
Again, rewiring isn't necessary, so you are left with the egg on your face for introducing it. There is nothing in the wiring leading people to think they are are trans to begin with. Feelings, yeah...real, no...
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You made the claim that you can fix gender dysphoria with hormones. CIS is the "normal" person. Ie. Straight and the gender of their body.
So tell me which hormones do we give someone to make them from trans to CIS?
Where did I make a claim?
I have made no claim.
I wondered as to why there is no hormone therapy designed to make the brain match the body the person was born with. The only therapy offered is to make the body match the the brain.
You, on the other hand, made THE CLAIM there is no hormone therapy to "rewire," the brain (which is utter bullshit, to begin with. You knew it when you wrote it, and if you didn't know it, then you have zero business even posting in this thread).
The brain is already wired with the effects of hormones. That is a damn fact.
.... There is no hormone to rewire the brain. Hornones affect the brain, but it doesn't change the connections between neurons. It can certainly promote reinforced behavior but testosterone won't make you go from thinking you're a girl to thinking you're a boy.
And really, you should be happy no research was done. Imagine if the government could put something in your water and make you a gay and trans?
Again, rewiring isn't necessary, so you are left with the egg on your face for introducing it. There is nothing in the wiring leading people to think they are are trans to begin with. Feelings, yeah...real, no...
Then please, do tell us what makes you non-trans and others trans? What brilliant emotional development was somehow lacking?
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You made the claim that you can fix gender dysphoria with hormones. CIS is the "normal" person. Ie. Straight and the gender of their body.
So tell me which hormones do we give someone to make them from trans to CIS?
Where did I make a claim?
I have made no claim.
I wondered as to why there is no hormone therapy designed to make the brain match the body the person was born with. The only therapy offered is to make the body match the the brain.
You, on the other hand, made THE CLAIM there is no hormone therapy to "rewire," the brain (which is utter bullshit, to begin with. You knew it when you wrote it, and if you didn't know it, then you have zero business even posting in this thread).
The brain is already wired with the effects of hormones. That is a damn fact.
.... There is no hormone to rewire the brain. Hornones affect the brain, but it doesn't change the connections between neurons. It can certainly promote reinforced behavior but testosterone won't make you go from thinking you're a girl to thinking you're a boy.
And really, you should be happy no research was done. Imagine if the government could put something in your water and make you a gay and trans?
Again, rewiring isn't necessary, so you are left with the egg on your face for introducing it. There is nothing in the wiring leading people to think they are trans to begin with. Feelings, yeah...real, no...
Then please, do tell us what makes you non-trans and others trans? What brilliant emotional development was somehow lacking?
Evidently, you are the expert, right? You have a firm grip, claiming the hormones don't have anything to do with the mental state, while at the same time acknowledging the hormones have EVERYTHING to do with the mental state.
Just quit with the nonsense trolls. I asked a simple question as to why no hormone therapy was being pushed to match the mind with existing body. You got a problem with that, because you know that would be the normal thing to do, and you are an advocate for everything abnormal, just for the funsies and the feelsies.
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You made the claim that you can fix gender dysphoria with hormones. CIS is the "normal" person. Ie. Straight and the gender of their body.
So tell me which hormones do we give someone to make them from trans to CIS?
Where did I make a claim?
I have made no claim.
I wondered as to why there is no hormone therapy designed to make the brain match the body the person was born with. The only therapy offered is to make the body match the the brain.
You, on the other hand, made THE CLAIM there is no hormone therapy to "rewire," the brain (which is utter bullshit, to begin with. You knew it when you wrote it, and if you didn't know it, then you have zero business even posting in this thread).
The brain is already wired with the effects of hormones. That is a damn fact.
.... There is no hormone to rewire the brain. Hornones affect the brain, but it doesn't change the connections between neurons. It can certainly promote reinforced behavior but testosterone won't make you go from thinking you're a girl to thinking you're a boy.
And really, you should be happy no research was done. Imagine if the government could put something in your water and make you a gay and trans?
Again, rewiring isn't necessary, so you are left with the egg on your face for introducing it. There is nothing in the wiring leading people to think they are trans to begin with. Feelings, yeah...real, no...
Then please, do tell us what makes you non-trans and others trans? What brilliant emotional development was somehow lacking?
Evidently, you are the expert, right? You have a firm grip, claiming the hormones don't have anything to do with the mental state, while at the same time acknowledging the hormones have EVERYTHING to do with the mental state.
Just quit with the nonsense trolls. I asked a simple question as to why no hormone therapy was being pushed to match the mind with existing body. You got a problem with that, because you know that would be the normal thing to do, and you are an advocate for everything abnormal, just for the funsies and the feelsies.
Mental state and hardwiring are not the same thing.
If I get drunk, I've altered my mental state.
If I'm horny or angry, my mental state is altered.
None of those makes me feel like I'm the wrong gender.
Also, if you DO feel like you're in the wrong body, pumping the same hormone you likely have a normal amount of isn't gonna help. (Ie. Boy thinking he is a girl getting testosterone won't help him think less)
There is no naturally made hormone that affects gender identity.
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None of those makes me feel like I'm the wrong gender.
Here we go...gender is an issue related to "feeling." What a crock...
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None of those makes me feel like I'm the wrong gender.
Here we go...gender is an issue related to "feeling." What a crock...
It is.
Like lets say I pump you full of testosterone and force it into you for a year, Hormone Therapy, to change you from a woman to a man. You won't think you're a man, you'll just feel wrong.
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None of those makes me feel like I'm the wrong gender.
Here we go...gender is an issue related to "feeling." What a crock...
It is.
Like lets say I pump you full of testosterone and force it into you for a year, Hormone Therapy, to change you from a woman to a man. You won't think you're a man, you'll just feel wrong.
Oh, so you believe gender is a defining of male and female.
LOL...the circles and hoops these people will try to put you though in their concerted effort to gaslight the fuck out of the population...
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None of those makes me feel like I'm the wrong gender.
Here we go...gender is an issue related to "feeling." What a crock...
It is.
Like lets say I pump you full of testosterone and force it into you for a year, Hormone Therapy, to change you from a woman to a man. You won't think you're a man, you'll just feel wrong.
Oh, so you believe gender is a defining of male and female.
LOL...the circles and hoops these people will try to put you though in their concerted effort to gaslight the fuck out of the population...
For now, yes.
I'm waiting for the finalized memo on how many genders there are.
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Nobody is "born in the wrong body", it's all lies. It's gender dysphoria - aka gender identity disorder - which didn't exist before second-wave feminism.
Change my mind (facts are my currency, so if you don't have them don't even try).
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Nobody is "born in the wrong body", it's all lies. It's gender dysphoria - aka gender identity disorder - which didn't exist before second-wave feminism.
Change my mind (facts are my currency, so if you don't have them don't even try).
How about this from the American Urological Association's official journal:
Transsexualism, gender dysphoria, and non-gender conforming identities have existed throughout history. Historical recordings of cross-dressing date as far back as Ancient Egypt in 1500 BC, with Queen Hatshepsut ascending to the throne wearing male clothing and a beard. In Ancient Rome in 220 AD, Emperor Elagabalus, known for his bisexual encounters, reportedly offered a reward for any doctor who could provide him female genitalia.
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Nobody is "born in the wrong body", it's all lies. It's gender dysphoria - aka gender identity disorder - which didn't exist before second-wave feminism.
Change my mind (facts are my currency, so if you don't have them don't even try).
How about this from the American Urological Association's official journal:
Transsexualism, gender dysphoria, and non-gender conforming identities have existed throughout history. Historical recordings of cross-dressing date as far back as Ancient Egypt in 1500 BC, with Queen Hatshepsut ascending to the throne wearing male clothing and a beard. In Ancient Rome in 220 AD, Emperor Elagabalus, known for his bisexual encounters, reportedly offered a reward for any doctor who could provide him female genitalia.
BULLSHIT!
Hatshepsut was one of the most prolific builders in Ancient Egypt, commissioning hundreds of construction projects throughout both Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt. Many of these building projects were temples to build her religious base and legitimacy beyond her position as God's Wife of Amun. At these temples, she performed religious rituals that had hitherto been reserved for kings, corroborating the evidence that Hatshepsut assumed traditionally male roles as pharaoh. She employed the great architect Ineni, who also had worked for her father, her husband, and for the royal steward Senenmut. The extant artifacts of the statuary provide archaeological evidence of Hatshepsut's portrayals of herself as a male pharaoh, with physically masculine traits and traditionally male Ancient Egyptian garb, such as a false beard and ram's horns. These images are seen as symbolic, and not evidence of cross-dressing or androgyny.
Elagabalus is infamous for his controversial and extravagant lifestyle. While it is true that Elagabalus engaged in various sexual encounters, including those with both men and women, there is no historical evidence to support the claim that he offered a reward for a doctor who could provide him with female genitalia.
Elagabalus was known for his disregard for traditional Roman customs and his extravagant behavior. He married and divorced multiple times, including marriages to both men and women. He also engaged in cross-dressing and other behaviors that were considered scandalous by the Roman elite. However, it is important to approach historical accounts of Elagabalus with caution, as they were often written by his political enemies who sought to portray him in a negative light.
So far, all you have is an 18 year old deviant Roman emperor and a female paharaoh that supposedly portrayed herself as a male pharaoh. Needless to say, you're gonna have to do better than that if you want to change my mind. ;D
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You're going to have a hard time finding examples of people who were open about being what we'd now consider to be trans back during a time when homosexuality was usually considered to be criminal sexual deviancy, to say nothing about dressing up as or behaving like the opposite gender. It doesn't mean that nobody ever felt like their gender identity and their biological sex didn't match before second-wave feminists put the idea in their heads; it means that nobody would be willing to say they feel that way when society would never accept or tolerate it. You could say the same thing about gay people, or even atheists, to give a non-sexual example. There's a huge difference between nobody feeling a certain way and nobody daring to admit they feel a certain way to a society that will punish them for it.
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You're going to have a hard time finding examples of people who were open about what we'd now consider to be trans back during a time when homosexuality was usually considered to be criminal sexual deviancy, to say nothing about dressing up as or behaving like the opposite gender. It doesn't mean that nobody ever felt like their gender identity and their biological sex didn't match before second-wave feminists put the idea in their heads; it means that nobody would be willing to say they feel that way when society would never accept or tolerate it. You could say the same thing about gay people, or even atheists, to give a non-sexual example. There's a huge difference between nobody feeling a certain way and nobody daring to admit they feel a certain way to a society that will punish them for it.
This here is why we're seeing a "sudden" explosion of trans, gay, etc...
Because now its tolerated (in some places)so they can actually be public about it.
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Why should I *care* if a lot of people are trans? I don’t think I’m wrapping my head around this. And claiming that “kids are getting life altering serjeree” is admitting that you know nothing about this.
My lifelong friend who is trans is literally having to keep track of laws across all states and keep up research to see where it is SAFE TO LIVE. Is that what politicians should be doing for citizens?
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I thought this was interesting, and on topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYvt8IIwC2s