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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #80 on: December 10, 2013, 11:29:11 AM »
Very few games require you to actually build a powerful PC
QFT. I play games on a shitty laptop because I keep spending money on things that aren't a better computer. Despite the common view that shitty laptops can't run games, they can. You just need to turn them graphics sliders down a bit (don't worry, it'll still look better than xbone).
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #81 on: December 10, 2013, 03:35:45 PM »
Steam's working on that. Although you could just walk into a store and buy an ok-ish pre-assembled PC since 1998.

This. I know Windows is a hassle to get working right, but Steam works out of the box on Debian (and probably other major modern Linux distributions, too) on supported hardware. There are vendors that sell computers with Debian pre-installed too, if you'd care to take the time to look for one, and they'll select good hardware for you. You could even ask one of those "enthusiasts" who knows their shit if the computer you're about to buy is actually any good before you spend the money.

Then, guess what? You just bought a console that can both run any game on Steam for Linux, and function as a general-purpose computer. Simple.
This is inaccurate.
To get steam working on windows out of the box was simplistic. (download steam.exe, double click steam.exe, follow onscreen instructions)


By contrast, out of the box Wheezy, required me to add in the non-free firmware for my card (which required altering the sources.list) and installing that and rebooting, then writing an xorg.config file THEN I had to do the following steps.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/864958088310067952/

Which didn't work because I had to remove two packages from that ling list.  (no idea what the / is supposed to do either)

Then I had to force the install of libcurl.
THEN and ONLY THEN did it work.


Out of the box Debian may work for the current testing version with a newer video card, but not wheezy with a Radeon HD 4890.
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #82 on: December 10, 2013, 05:54:29 PM »
This. I know Windows is a hassle to get working right, but Steam works out of the box on Debian [...]
This is inaccurate. [...]

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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #83 on: December 10, 2013, 07:35:41 PM »
This. I know Windows is a hassle to get working right, but Steam works out of the box on Debian [...]
This is inaccurate. [...]

I'm sorry, I guess my out of the box Debian install just didn't count, did it?
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #84 on: December 10, 2013, 08:24:23 PM »
I'm sorry, I guess my out of the box Debian install just didn't count, did it?
Parsifal's idea of "out of the box" is just very different from that of us mere mortals.
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #85 on: December 10, 2013, 08:58:07 PM »
I'm sorry, I guess my out of the box Debian install just didn't count, did it?
Parsifal's idea of "out of the box" is just very different from that of us mere mortals.

I am sure everyone assumes that compiling the code is an out of box experience, no?

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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #86 on: December 10, 2013, 09:42:40 PM »
This is inaccurate.

You chose not to use Debian's package of Steam. If you're not going to install things the way your distribution has packaged them to work with itself, you are far more likely to run into problems.
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #87 on: December 11, 2013, 12:59:37 AM »
This is inaccurate.

You chose not to use Debian's package of Steam. If you're not going to install things the way your distribution has packaged them to work with itself, you are far more likely to run into problems.
You mean the one that only exists in the testing repository?
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #88 on: December 11, 2013, 04:33:05 AM »
You mean the one that only exists in the testing repository?

Yes.
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #89 on: December 11, 2013, 06:26:31 AM »
Are you a PC gamer, Parsifal?

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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #91 on: December 11, 2013, 09:52:14 AM »
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #92 on: December 11, 2013, 09:55:49 AM »
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #93 on: December 11, 2013, 10:19:13 AM »
Yep, that one was pretty lazy. Then again, it was posted on 9gag.

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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #94 on: December 11, 2013, 11:14:57 AM »
You mean the one that only exists in the testing repository?

Yes.
So if I were to install the stable version, steam wouldn't work out of the box.  Got it.
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #95 on: December 11, 2013, 11:51:57 AM »
So if I were to install the stable version, steam wouldn't work out of the box.  Got it.

Yes, Steam isn't supported in Debian stable. If you install a distribution which doesn't support a particular piece of software, you can't reasonably expect that software to work. This would be like installing Windows XP and then complaining that you can't run software written for Windows 7.

In Steam's case, it probably will work, but possibly with a bit of fucking around. If you want Steam to work out of the box instead, pick a release that supports Steam.
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #96 on: December 12, 2013, 01:30:48 AM »
I'm not verifiable certain, but I'm pretty sure Windows doesn't let you cut/paste system32. As far as I know, only an admin-enabled line input from powershell can force its deletion.

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« Reply #97 on: December 12, 2013, 03:36:56 AM »
I'm not verifiable certain, but I'm pretty sure Windows doesn't let you cut/paste system32. As far as I know, only an admin-enabled line input from powershell can force its deletion.

Incorrect. I deleted system32 from Linux five years ago, and haven't looked back since.
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Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #98 on: December 12, 2013, 03:37:56 AM »
Incorrect. I deleted system32 from Linux five years ago, and haven't looked back since.

Your a moran.

Re: Xbox users are bricking their consoles
« Reply #99 on: December 12, 2013, 05:30:46 AM »
Is there a way to un-brick a vista if editing a game script caused it to crash?
I don't even care to find out what you're doing wrong, but I'm sure you're doing something wrong.