Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2018, 03:00:44 PM »
People are lazy and want to be handed unfo so this makes them easily fooled. Like believing in satellites. Communications have been perfected and you don't need line of sight for every instance although that is what is mostly used. There is Skywave, Meteor burst communications where you communicate off the ionized meteor trails. This should explain chemtrails if you allow it. Nano metallic particles disbursed in the atmosphere then charged via haarp to communicate bouncing off the sky. The dome shape is explained in the Meteor burst communications, duh. We all know it's there and you're not leaving, ever !

Your repeated rhetoric sounds like Col. Klink show..."I know nothing"

https://mvprogress.com/2015/02/25/usaf-radio-tower-monitors-earths-atmosphere/

http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST%2520Binaries/nt0z.pdf
What you write above does not exclude satellites.  Please provide links or details of specific transmitters for broadcast which we use satellite dishes for.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #81 on: April 04, 2018, 04:33:02 PM »
From the first link "Radio signals can bounce off these layers making global communications possible. "

They CAN, but that's not a statement that all radio signals DO.

There seems no relevance to satellites here.

Second link states "These modes aren’t always casual. That is, many require robust stations, high power and more than a little patience. " - so, out of the scope of a standard household installation, then, and solely the province of the dedicated radio ham.

It also suggests that these techniques are only valid during meteor showers. Again, my satellite TV receiver works 24/7, not at limited times, so these meteor-scatter techniques don't seem appropriate for the average household.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #82 on: April 04, 2018, 06:50:32 PM »
That's quite a statement, I'm sure you have proof of this?

Well, you can't prove a negative, so no. But, everything I've seen that has come from science has led me to the conclusion that a god is not necessary, and the deities we describe are terrible people (based on holy books).
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2018, 10:07:02 PM »
you can't prove a negative
This is strictly incorrect. I can easily prove that I am not wearing a hat right now, and that there are no US dollars in my wallet.
Read the FAQ before asking your question - chances are we already addressed it.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #84 on: April 05, 2018, 03:48:22 AM »
Try to stay on topic as we discover more lies of satellites.

The greatest lie about satellites is claim that they don't exist.

Take, for example, your common satellite TV.
Have you ever tried to move your dish for more than one degree?
Don't do it, or you will have to pay technician to aim it to the satellite again.

Knowing that receiving angle of dish is very narrow and direction setting is very sensitive,
we have proof of the precise direction of the signal source.
To receive the signal from other source we should aim the dish in the direction of that other sourse.

Considering that no tower can be that tall, and no ballon can stay still in the sky, especially not for years,
we have proof that signal comes from geostationary satellites.

That is the only remaining possibility.

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New Orleans is 30 degrees north.
If people want to receive signal from 91W GALAXY 17, they have to point their dishes 55 degrees up.
They know it because there is online calculator that shows them where they can see it from their location.
One of those calculators is "dishpointer.com".

For signal source to have elevation of 55 degrees from one mile south it has to be 1.43 miles high.
For another home at one mile to the west you would need another source at 1.43 miles up.
Another source, because previous one wouldn't be seen at the same azimuth from new location.

Why we don't see tons of such sources / towers all over the USA?

Now try to tell us that online calculators are "lies", and people "don't use them" to point their dishes.

Bear in mind that this forum is public and everyone, including those people, can read what would your answer be.

(You can use any calculator yourself, including DishPointer, to get the picture.
Play with locations and see where pointing directions intersect.
You can also see if their intersecting points can be consistent if the Earth was flat.
For example choose several cities at 90 degrees west at different latitudes.)



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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #85 on: April 05, 2018, 05:50:15 AM »
So much goofyness going on here with Dish TV crap. A 2000 year old book has described the dome over the earth as molten glass. Now check your foolish self at the door. Analog and digital waves have been bouncing off this glass for, well since the creation of man and the earth. As early as 1930 Bell Labs was picking up noise from the dome area. Even back then shortwave communication was bouncing off the dome. NO SATELLITES were supposedly aloft yet.  You encrypt and decode a transmission against this glass dome and it projects back down at a specific angle. POINT THE DISH dat a way...NO DUH  Take one of those old 10' dishes we used to use and point it at the MOON and bounce transmissions. There is a club for that.

We are stationary, the dome is stationary, you create programming and blast it up to the dome, it reflects back, you point your trusty decoder dish at it, boys chasing a little white ball around kicking it in nets. God is good, everyone watch FUTBOL !!
What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #86 on: April 05, 2018, 08:29:01 AM »
So much goofyness going on here with Dish TV crap. A 2000 year old book has described the dome over the earth as molten glass. Now check your foolish self at the door. Analog and digital waves have been bouncing off this glass for, well since the creation of man and the earth. As early as 1930 Bell Labs was picking up noise from the dome area. Even back then shortwave communication was bouncing off the dome. NO SATELLITES were supposedly aloft yet.  You encrypt and decode a transmission against this glass dome and it projects back down at a specific angle. POINT THE DISH dat a way...NO DUH  Take one of those old 10' dishes we used to use and point it at the MOON and bounce transmissions. There is a club for that.

We are stationary, the dome is stationary, you create programming and blast it up to the dome, it reflects back, you point your trusty decoder dish at it, boys chasing a little white ball around kicking it in nets. God is good, everyone watch FUTBOL !!

Ok, explain to yourself:
- how that signal bounces only off the few spots and not off the whole area around them?
- why signal delay reveals 35 786 km to geostationary satellite, and not 6 305 km to "dome"?

Or read only the book made by Roman emperor Constantine and his men 325 AD in Nicaea, and ignore all other books written later, when humanity had more data.

Dare you to go to nearest church and ask priests if the Biblical model is Flat Earth or Geocentrism.
Then, if you are not happy with the explanation, go to another church and compare.

Do you even know the difference?

1 - Flat model (ancient local model, xxx - 500 BC) - Flat Earth is at the bottom, with one dome on top.
2 - Geocentrism (Biblical model, 500 BC - 1650 AD) - Globe Earth is static in the center, with several crystal spheres around, each carrying own set of celestial bodies.
3 - Heliocentrism (Copernican model, 1650 AD - present) - Celestial objects in Solar system revolve Sun, and Solar system revolves Milky Way galactic core.

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3000 years ago Flat model was still in place. But then ancient civilisations expanded
their knowledge of the Earth's surface by travel, trade and ground measurements. They found out that
on gretaer distances it becomes more obviously curved. Flat model simply had Earth down in the middle,
seas around it and "dome" above it. "Dome" was made of velvet and had little holes (stars) so when Sun
didn't shine those holes let in the light from outside of the "dome".

2500 years ago they expanded enough to start thinking "out of the Flat". That is why they eaxpanded Flat
into Geocentric.
This time Earth was static in the center of heavens.
Everything on Earth tends to center of heavens compressing it into sphere. Heavens were spinning concentric
crystal spheres around the Earth, each of them carrying own set of celestial bodies. They noted some changes
in relations in the sky and they had to explain it somehow.

Some 700 years later Roman emperor Constantine and his men in Nicaea 325 AD created Bible. Church accepted
static Earth and Geocentric system based on it, but they incorporated it in Dogma and it was forbidden to question it,
even worse to try to change the perception of it. New info poured in and people tried, but were silenced as brutally
as needed. Some by threats, some by force.

400 years ago there was enough data for the most brave people to stand up more loudly. Transition was painful,
Giordano Bruno was burnt at stake, Galileo forced by court to renunce his teachings and never try again.
But leaving the court he still said "eppur si muove".

Anyway, mankind once again went thinking "out of the Geocentric" and expanded the system into Heliocentric.
Some religious conservatives still didn't want to let go, but soon lot of them understood why new, broader view
is more accurate.

Not all of them.

150 years ago "Dr" Samuel Birley Rowbotham saw his chance to exploit stubborn ones and take money from them.
He revived old Flat model and during "lectures" in small towns in England developed rehtoric designed to confuse,
silence, or discredit anyone who would ask "inconvenient" questions. Developed and tested for couple of decades.

100 years ago Wilbur Glenn Voliva did the same thing in USA, also for money. He took role of little tyrant in Zion, IL,
including big radio station heard even in Australia. (Fortunately, Aussies have night sky in their backyards and saw
easier than "Northerners" that Flat Earth hypothesis has zero coverage in reality. Same goes for others in southern hemisphere.)

Right now some YouTubers still muddy the water using same rhetoric, fishing for naive victims to increase
their subscriptions and views. They know the Earth is not flat, but they don't care. Revenue is dripping in.
In case of any legal action taken against them, they can always say "It is fantasy the same way as LOTR or
Justice League. I'm just trying to make it convincing for my audience. I thought everyone knew that."
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #87 on: April 05, 2018, 08:31:20 AM »
So much goofyness going on here with Dish TV crap.

Well, I don't get anything from Dish TV.  They only broadcast to the USA.

A 2000 year old book has described the dome over the earth as molten glass.

Yes, but we've moved on since it was written


Analog and digital waves have been bouncing off this glass for, well since the creation of man and the earth. As early as 1930 Bell Labs was picking up noise from the dome area. Even back then shortwave communication was bouncing off the dome.

... but satellite signals are not Short Wave.


NO SATELLITES were supposedly aloft yet.  You encrypt and decode a transmission against this glass dome and it projects back down at a specific angle.

But it can't be a specific angle unless there's one transmitter for every receiver....


POINT THE DISH dat a way...NO DUH  Take one of those old 10' dishes we used to use and point it at the MOON and bounce transmissions. There is a club for that.

Can't be bouncing off the dome if it's going through the dome to bounce off the Moon ....

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #88 on: April 05, 2018, 10:54:10 AM »
There is Skywave, Meteor burst communications where you communicate off the ionized meteor trails. This should explain chemtrails if you allow it. Nano metallic particles disbursed in the atmosphere then charged via haarp to communicate bouncing off the sky. The dome shape is explained in the Meteor burst communications, duh. We all know it's there and you're not leaving, ever !
So dome only exists for few seconds. Ok, didn't expect you to believe that, but ok, thank you. That is new information.

When the balloon pops, you distinctly hear the familiar sound of the rattle reverberation against the glass molten dome. The sound is unique isn't it.
I haven't been close to the glass dome when a balloon pops. So you have been close to the glass dome and know what it sounds like? Can you tell me where that was and take me with you next time?

There isn't an inch of this Flat Earth that doesn't have transmission towers and repeaters everywhere. They're even floating in the ocean, they're on planes circling the pie plate, balloons hoovering above us. There's metallic nano particles being sprayed everywhere to place a metal layer that stays afloat almost a year so we can bounce data signals across great distances.

Sat dishes are pointed at towers in the southern area because transmissions are pointed north.
You keep babbling like a fool, but not communicate. I would still like to know if you ever sensed (seen, observed) any of what you speak about. True Flat Earthism, observes and experiences, and makes direct conclusions from that, otherwise it is nothing but rationalization - speculation and conjecture.

Would really help me to get some explanation as I would like to understand your earlier statements in this topic about satellite hoax.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #89 on: April 05, 2018, 12:33:39 PM »
So much goofyness going on here with Dish TV crap. A 2000 year old book has described the dome over the earth as molten glass. Now check your foolish self at the door. Analog and digital waves have been bouncing off this glass for, well since the creation of man and the earth. As early as 1930 Bell Labs was picking up noise from the dome area. Even back then shortwave communication was bouncing off the dome. NO SATELLITES were supposedly aloft yet.  You encrypt and decode a transmission against this glass dome and it projects back down at a specific angle. POINT THE DISH dat a way...NO DUH  Take one of those old 10' dishes we used to use and point it at the MOON and bounce transmissions. There is a club for that.

We are stationary, the dome is stationary, you create programming and blast it up to the dome, it reflects back, you point your trusty decoder dish at it, boys chasing a little white ball around kicking it in nets. God is good, everyone watch FUTBOL !!

More word stew from J-man. Radio waves don't bounce off of glass, they pass through it. Sorry for blowing up your silly theory, but hey, you don't really believe it anyway.
I saw a video where a pilot was flying above the sun.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #90 on: April 06, 2018, 08:02:15 PM »
Good, everyone is happy that satellites exist because nobody can produce details of how they might otherwise work with links to manufacturers, broadcast companies etc.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #91 on: April 06, 2018, 08:32:34 PM »
Here are some of them:

Name     Common name                Orbit inc 

04016A  DIRECTV 7S                -119.1  0.0
10010A  ECHOSTAR 14               -118.9  0.0
02006A  ECHOSTAR 7                -118.8  0.0
07009A  ANIK F3                   -118.7  0.0
16038B  EUTELSAT 117 WEST B       -117.0  0.0
13012A  EUTELSAT 117 WEST A       -116.8  0.0
13058A  SIRIUS FM-6               -116.1  0.0
06049A  XM-4 (BLUES)              -115.2  0.0
11059A  VIASAT-1                  -115.1  0.0
15010B  EUTELSAT 115 WEST B       -114.9  0.0
12075B  MEXSAT 3                  -114.8  0.0
15056A  MORELOS 3                 -113.1  6.2
06020A  EUTELSAT 113 WEST A       -113.0  0.0
06054A  WILDBLUE-1                -111.2  0.0
04027A  ANIK F2                   -111.1  0.0
09035A  TERRESTAR-1               -111.0  2.7
06003A  ECHOSTAR 10               -110.2  0.0
02023A  DIRECTV 5 (TEMPO 1)       -110.1  0.0
08035A  ECHOSTAR 11               -110.0  0.0
99059A  TELSTAR 12 (ORION 2)      -109.2  1.4
96022A  MSAT M1                   -107.5  8.1
13014A  ANIK G1                   -107.3  0.0
05036A  ANIK F1R                  -107.3  0.0
00076A  ANIK F1                   -107.3  0.0
12035A  ECHOSTAR 17               -107.1  0.0
04041A  AMC-15                    -105.1  0.0
17063A  SES-11 (ECHOSTAR 105)     -105.0  0.1
06054B  AMC-18                    -104.9  0.0
09033A  GOES 14                   -104.3  0.1
95019A  AMSC 1                    -103.3 10.3
11035A  SES-3                     -103.0  0.1
05015A  SPACEWAY 1                -102.9  0.0
07032A  DIRECTV 10                -102.8  0.0
09075A  DIRECTV 12                -102.8  0.0
15026A  DIRECTV 15                -102.8  0.0
10005A  SDO                       -101.9 29.0
10061A  SKYTERRA 1                -101.3  3.0
01052A  DIRECTV 4S                -101.2  0.0
06043A  DIRECTV 9S                -101.1  0.0
10016A  SES-1                     -101.0  0.0
05019A  DIRECTV 8                 -100.9  0.0
14078B  DIRECTV 14                 -99.2  0.0
08013A  DIRECTV 11                 -99.2  0.0
05046B  SPACEWAY 2                 -99.1  0.0
06023A  GALAXY 16 (G-16)           -99.0  0.0
08039A  INMARSAT 4-F3              -98.0  3.0
16079A  ECHOSTAR 19                -97.1  0.0
08045A  GALAXY 19 (G-19)           -97.0  0.0
00038A  ECHOSTAR 6                 -96.2  4.6
14062A  INTELSAT 30 (IS-30)        -95.0  0.0
16035A  INTELSAT 31 (IS-31)        -95.0  0.0
02030A  GALAXY 3C (G-3C)           -95.0  0.0
07036A  SPACEWAY 3                 -94.9  0.0
97026A  GALAXY 25 (G-25)           -93.1  0.0
08016A  ICO G1                     -92.8  3.8
00046A  BRASILSAT B4               -92.0  2.1
12026A  NIMIQ 6                    -91.1  0.0
07016B  GALAXY 17 (G-17)           -91.0  0.0
05022A  GALAXY 28 (G-28)           -89.0  0.0
13075A  TKSAT-1 (TUPAC KATARI)     -87.2  0.0
11049A  SES-2                      -87.0  0.0
99027A  NIMIQ 1                    -86.5  0.0
03033A  ECHOSTAR 12 (RAINBOW 1)    -86.4  0.0
09034A  SIRIUS FM-5                -86.1  0.0
10053A  XM-5                       -85.2  0.0
05008A  XM-3 (RHYTHM)              -85.1  0.0
04048A  AMC-16                     -85.0  0.0
97002A  AMC-2 (GE-2)               -84.9  4.7
16082B  STAR ONE D1                -84.0  0.0
00067A  AMC-6 (GE-6)               -83.0  0.0
08044A  NIMIQ 4                    -81.9  0.0
15054B  ARSAT 2                    -81.0  0.0
15026B  SKY MEXICO-1               -78.8  0.0
08055A  VENESAT-1                  -77.9  0.0
11054A  QUETZSAT 1                 -77.0  0.0
10006A  INTELSAT 16 (IS-16)        -76.2  0.0
16071A  GOES 16                    -75.2  0.0
12062A  STAR ONE C3                -75.0  0.0
17023B  SGDC                       -74.8  0.0
06018A  GOES 13                    -74.6  0.3
14011A  AMAZONAS 4A                -74.0  0.1
94070A  ASTRA 1D                   -73.0  7.9
09050A  NIMIQ 5                    -72.7  0.0
97050A  AMC-3 (GE-3)               -72.0  0.8
14062B  ARSAT 1                    -71.8  0.0
15034B  STAR ONE C4                -70.0  0.0
08018B  STAR ONE C2                -70.0  0.0
95016A  BRASILSAT B2               -68.0  7.5
17017A  SES-10                     -66.9  0.0
16014A  EUTELSAT 65 WEST A         -65.2  0.0
07056A  STAR ONE C1                -65.0  0.0
98006A  BRASILSAT B3               -63.2  4.4
11021A  TELSTAR 14R                -63.0  0.0
88091B  TDRS 3                     -62.5 14.4
10034A  ECHOSTAR 15                -61.7  0.0
12065A  ECHOSTAR 16                -61.5  0.0
16039B  ECHOSTAR 18                -61.3  0.0
09054A  AMAZONAS 2                 -61.0  0.0
17053A  AMAZONAS 5                 -61.0  0.0
13006A  AMAZONAS 3                 -61.0  0.0
12045A  INTELSAT 21 (IS-21)        -58.0  0.0
15039A  INTELSAT 34 (IS-34)        -55.5  0.0
15005A  INMARSAT 5-F2              -55.0  0.0
98006B  INMARSAT 3-F5              -54.0  3.0
12057A  INTELSAT 23 (IS-23)        -53.0  0.0
16004A  INTELSAT 29E (IS-29E)      -50.0  0.0

(from: http://www.satsig.net/sslist.htm)

Treep Ravisarras

Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #92 on: April 10, 2018, 08:40:08 AM »
Yes I asked this question in other topic, but no flat earth answer unfortunately  ???

I would expect to have to change my dish all the time during my Formula One race, I loose signal and I need to change the angle.

But no, it’s always there, the source for my tv show, always at the precise single spot in the sky. What’s up there?

(https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=9240.msg144653#msg144653)

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #93 on: April 10, 2018, 04:02:07 PM »
So now they're even saying satellites are hoaxes?!?!?! HOAXES?!?!? Alright here goes another upper fora post.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #94 on: April 12, 2018, 02:23:37 AM »
When you know where the information bounces off the dome, it's very easy to require someone to use that area to broadcast their signals. Charge them 10's of millions for satellite time or even a whole one blasted up to this imaginary space in the universe. Point your round funny disks at the reflection and boom, futbol.....

Who would know the diff?

Not any of the knuckle draggers here.
What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #95 on: April 12, 2018, 02:28:30 AM »
Here are some of them:

Name     Common name                Orbit inc 

04016A  DIRECTV 7S                -119.1  0.0
10010A  ECHOSTAR 14               -118.9  0.0
02006A  ECHOSTAR 7                -118.8  0.0
07009A  ANIK F3                   -118.7  0.0
16038B  EUTELSAT 117 WEST B       -117.0  0.0
13012A  EUTELSAT 117 WEST A       -116.8  0.0
13058A  SIRIUS FM-6               -116.1  0.0
06049A  XM-4 (BLUES)              -115.2  0.0
11059A  VIASAT-1                  -115.1  0.0
15010B  EUTELSAT 115 WEST B       -114.9  0.0
12075B  MEXSAT 3                  -114.8  0.0
15056A  MORELOS 3                 -113.1  6.2
06020A  EUTELSAT 113 WEST A       -113.0  0.0
06054A  WILDBLUE-1                -111.2  0.0
04027A  ANIK F2                   -111.1  0.0
09035A  TERRESTAR-1               -111.0  2.7
06003A  ECHOSTAR 10               -110.2  0.0
02023A  DIRECTV 5 (TEMPO 1)       -110.1  0.0
08035A  ECHOSTAR 11               -110.0  0.0
99059A  TELSTAR 12 (ORION 2)      -109.2  1.4
96022A  MSAT M1                   -107.5  8.1
13014A  ANIK G1                   -107.3  0.0
05036A  ANIK F1R                  -107.3  0.0
00076A  ANIK F1                   -107.3  0.0
12035A  ECHOSTAR 17               -107.1  0.0
04041A  AMC-15                    -105.1  0.0
17063A  SES-11 (ECHOSTAR 105)     -105.0  0.1
06054B  AMC-18                    -104.9  0.0
09033A  GOES 14                   -104.3  0.1
95019A  AMSC 1                    -103.3 10.3
11035A  SES-3                     -103.0  0.1
05015A  SPACEWAY 1                -102.9  0.0
07032A  DIRECTV 10                -102.8  0.0
09075A  DIRECTV 12                -102.8  0.0
15026A  DIRECTV 15                -102.8  0.0
10005A  SDO                       -101.9 29.0
10061A  SKYTERRA 1                -101.3  3.0
01052A  DIRECTV 4S                -101.2  0.0
06043A  DIRECTV 9S                -101.1  0.0
10016A  SES-1                     -101.0  0.0
05019A  DIRECTV 8                 -100.9  0.0
14078B  DIRECTV 14                 -99.2  0.0
08013A  DIRECTV 11                 -99.2  0.0
05046B  SPACEWAY 2                 -99.1  0.0
06023A  GALAXY 16 (G-16)           -99.0  0.0
08039A  INMARSAT 4-F3              -98.0  3.0
16079A  ECHOSTAR 19                -97.1  0.0
08045A  GALAXY 19 (G-19)           -97.0  0.0
00038A  ECHOSTAR 6                 -96.2  4.6
14062A  INTELSAT 30 (IS-30)        -95.0  0.0
16035A  INTELSAT 31 (IS-31)        -95.0  0.0
02030A  GALAXY 3C (G-3C)           -95.0  0.0
07036A  SPACEWAY 3                 -94.9  0.0
97026A  GALAXY 25 (G-25)           -93.1  0.0
08016A  ICO G1                     -92.8  3.8
00046A  BRASILSAT B4               -92.0  2.1
12026A  NIMIQ 6                    -91.1  0.0
07016B  GALAXY 17 (G-17)           -91.0  0.0
05022A  GALAXY 28 (G-28)           -89.0  0.0
13075A  TKSAT-1 (TUPAC KATARI)     -87.2  0.0
11049A  SES-2                      -87.0  0.0
99027A  NIMIQ 1                    -86.5  0.0
03033A  ECHOSTAR 12 (RAINBOW 1)    -86.4  0.0
09034A  SIRIUS FM-5                -86.1  0.0
10053A  XM-5                       -85.2  0.0
05008A  XM-3 (RHYTHM)              -85.1  0.0
04048A  AMC-16                     -85.0  0.0
97002A  AMC-2 (GE-2)               -84.9  4.7
16082B  STAR ONE D1                -84.0  0.0
00067A  AMC-6 (GE-6)               -83.0  0.0
08044A  NIMIQ 4                    -81.9  0.0
15054B  ARSAT 2                    -81.0  0.0
15026B  SKY MEXICO-1               -78.8  0.0
08055A  VENESAT-1                  -77.9  0.0
11054A  QUETZSAT 1                 -77.0  0.0
10006A  INTELSAT 16 (IS-16)        -76.2  0.0
16071A  GOES 16                    -75.2  0.0
12062A  STAR ONE C3                -75.0  0.0
17023B  SGDC                       -74.8  0.0
06018A  GOES 13                    -74.6  0.3
14011A  AMAZONAS 4A                -74.0  0.1
94070A  ASTRA 1D                   -73.0  7.9
09050A  NIMIQ 5                    -72.7  0.0
97050A  AMC-3 (GE-3)               -72.0  0.8
14062B  ARSAT 1                    -71.8  0.0
15034B  STAR ONE C4                -70.0  0.0
08018B  STAR ONE C2                -70.0  0.0
95016A  BRASILSAT B2               -68.0  7.5
17017A  SES-10                     -66.9  0.0
16014A  EUTELSAT 65 WEST A         -65.2  0.0
07056A  STAR ONE C1                -65.0  0.0
98006A  BRASILSAT B3               -63.2  4.4
11021A  TELSTAR 14R                -63.0  0.0
88091B  TDRS 3                     -62.5 14.4
10034A  ECHOSTAR 15                -61.7  0.0
12065A  ECHOSTAR 16                -61.5  0.0
16039B  ECHOSTAR 18                -61.3  0.0
09054A  AMAZONAS 2                 -61.0  0.0
17053A  AMAZONAS 5                 -61.0  0.0
13006A  AMAZONAS 3                 -61.0  0.0
12045A  INTELSAT 21 (IS-21)        -58.0  0.0
15039A  INTELSAT 34 (IS-34)        -55.5  0.0
15005A  INMARSAT 5-F2              -55.0  0.0
98006B  INMARSAT 3-F5              -54.0  3.0
12057A  INTELSAT 23 (IS-23)        -53.0  0.0
16004A  INTELSAT 29E (IS-29E)      -50.0  0.0

(from: http://www.satsig.net/sslist.htm)

These are nothing more than reflection coordinates off the dome. You act like this is science, no it's spooky demon BS.
What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

Treep Ravisarras

Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #96 on: April 12, 2018, 05:08:45 AM »
When you know where the information bounces off the dome, it's very easy to require someone to use that area to broadcast their signals.
You state it can be done very easy, very cheaply. You state there is a glass dome. Have you ever sensed (seen, observed) any of what you speak about. True Flat Earthism, observes and experiences, and makes direct conclusions from that, otherwise it is nothing but rationalization - speculation and conjecture.

Also, we know that glass does not reflect these radio waves like you speculate they do. After all, we would see the reflection of the earth in the glass, and not be able to see through it. Radio waves and light waves are both electromagnetic waves. I think you are still just babbling away. Not helpful. (Proverbs 10:8 ).
« Last Edit: April 12, 2018, 05:15:14 AM by Treep Ravisaras »

Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #97 on: April 12, 2018, 07:59:56 AM »
When you know where the information bounces off the dome, it's very easy to require someone to use that area to broadcast their signals. Charge them 10's of millions for satellite time or even a whole one blasted up to this imaginary space in the universe. Point your round funny disks at the reflection and boom, futbol.....

Who would know the diff?

Not any of the knuckle draggers here.
Satellite transponders have tightly defined coverage areas, how would that work in your scheme?

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #98 on: April 12, 2018, 08:44:27 AM »
Who would know the diff?

The designers and builders, along with their subcontractors.
The operators, engineers, their subcontractors and clients.
Anyone who knows anything about microwave communications.

Anyone who actively looks for, tracks, and takes video of satellites;



If you think this video is a 'hoax', then please explain why you think this, and what you think the telescope maker is actually doing....
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Nearly?

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #99 on: April 12, 2018, 09:49:23 AM »
Here are some of them:

Name     Common name                Orbit inc 

04016A  DIRECTV 7S                -119.1  0.0
10010A  ECHOSTAR 14               -118.9  0.0
02006A  ECHOSTAR 7                -118.8  0.0
07009A  ANIK F3                   -118.7  0.0
16038B  EUTELSAT 117 WEST B       -117.0  0.0
13012A  EUTELSAT 117 WEST A       -116.8  0.0
13058A  SIRIUS FM-6               -116.1  0.0
06049A  XM-4 (BLUES)              -115.2  0.0
11059A  VIASAT-1                  -115.1  0.0
15010B  EUTELSAT 115 WEST B       -114.9  0.0
12075B  MEXSAT 3                  -114.8  0.0
15056A  MORELOS 3                 -113.1  6.2
06020A  EUTELSAT 113 WEST A       -113.0  0.0
06054A  WILDBLUE-1                -111.2  0.0
04027A  ANIK F2                   -111.1  0.0
09035A  TERRESTAR-1               -111.0  2.7
06003A  ECHOSTAR 10               -110.2  0.0
02023A  DIRECTV 5 (TEMPO 1)       -110.1  0.0
08035A  ECHOSTAR 11               -110.0  0.0
99059A  TELSTAR 12 (ORION 2)      -109.2  1.4
96022A  MSAT M1                   -107.5  8.1
13014A  ANIK G1                   -107.3  0.0
05036A  ANIK F1R                  -107.3  0.0
00076A  ANIK F1                   -107.3  0.0
12035A  ECHOSTAR 17               -107.1  0.0
04041A  AMC-15                    -105.1  0.0
17063A  SES-11 (ECHOSTAR 105)     -105.0  0.1
06054B  AMC-18                    -104.9  0.0
09033A  GOES 14                   -104.3  0.1
95019A  AMSC 1                    -103.3 10.3
11035A  SES-3                     -103.0  0.1
05015A  SPACEWAY 1                -102.9  0.0
07032A  DIRECTV 10                -102.8  0.0
09075A  DIRECTV 12                -102.8  0.0
15026A  DIRECTV 15                -102.8  0.0
10005A  SDO                       -101.9 29.0
10061A  SKYTERRA 1                -101.3  3.0
01052A  DIRECTV 4S                -101.2  0.0
06043A  DIRECTV 9S                -101.1  0.0
10016A  SES-1                     -101.0  0.0
05019A  DIRECTV 8                 -100.9  0.0
14078B  DIRECTV 14                 -99.2  0.0
08013A  DIRECTV 11                 -99.2  0.0
05046B  SPACEWAY 2                 -99.1  0.0
06023A  GALAXY 16 (G-16)           -99.0  0.0
08039A  INMARSAT 4-F3              -98.0  3.0
16079A  ECHOSTAR 19                -97.1  0.0
08045A  GALAXY 19 (G-19)           -97.0  0.0
00038A  ECHOSTAR 6                 -96.2  4.6
14062A  INTELSAT 30 (IS-30)        -95.0  0.0
16035A  INTELSAT 31 (IS-31)        -95.0  0.0
02030A  GALAXY 3C (G-3C)           -95.0  0.0
07036A  SPACEWAY 3                 -94.9  0.0
97026A  GALAXY 25 (G-25)           -93.1  0.0
08016A  ICO G1                     -92.8  3.8
00046A  BRASILSAT B4               -92.0  2.1
12026A  NIMIQ 6                    -91.1  0.0
07016B  GALAXY 17 (G-17)           -91.0  0.0
05022A  GALAXY 28 (G-28)           -89.0  0.0
13075A  TKSAT-1 (TUPAC KATARI)     -87.2  0.0
11049A  SES-2                      -87.0  0.0
99027A  NIMIQ 1                    -86.5  0.0
03033A  ECHOSTAR 12 (RAINBOW 1)    -86.4  0.0
09034A  SIRIUS FM-5                -86.1  0.0
10053A  XM-5                       -85.2  0.0
05008A  XM-3 (RHYTHM)              -85.1  0.0
04048A  AMC-16                     -85.0  0.0
97002A  AMC-2 (GE-2)               -84.9  4.7
16082B  STAR ONE D1                -84.0  0.0
00067A  AMC-6 (GE-6)               -83.0  0.0
08044A  NIMIQ 4                    -81.9  0.0
15054B  ARSAT 2                    -81.0  0.0
15026B  SKY MEXICO-1               -78.8  0.0
08055A  VENESAT-1                  -77.9  0.0
11054A  QUETZSAT 1                 -77.0  0.0
10006A  INTELSAT 16 (IS-16)        -76.2  0.0
16071A  GOES 16                    -75.2  0.0
12062A  STAR ONE C3                -75.0  0.0
17023B  SGDC                       -74.8  0.0
06018A  GOES 13                    -74.6  0.3
14011A  AMAZONAS 4A                -74.0  0.1
94070A  ASTRA 1D                   -73.0  7.9
09050A  NIMIQ 5                    -72.7  0.0
97050A  AMC-3 (GE-3)               -72.0  0.8
14062B  ARSAT 1                    -71.8  0.0
15034B  STAR ONE C4                -70.0  0.0
08018B  STAR ONE C2                -70.0  0.0
95016A  BRASILSAT B2               -68.0  7.5
17017A  SES-10                     -66.9  0.0
16014A  EUTELSAT 65 WEST A         -65.2  0.0
07056A  STAR ONE C1                -65.0  0.0
98006A  BRASILSAT B3               -63.2  4.4
11021A  TELSTAR 14R                -63.0  0.0
88091B  TDRS 3                     -62.5 14.4
10034A  ECHOSTAR 15                -61.7  0.0
12065A  ECHOSTAR 16                -61.5  0.0
16039B  ECHOSTAR 18                -61.3  0.0
09054A  AMAZONAS 2                 -61.0  0.0
17053A  AMAZONAS 5                 -61.0  0.0
13006A  AMAZONAS 3                 -61.0  0.0
12045A  INTELSAT 21 (IS-21)        -58.0  0.0
15039A  INTELSAT 34 (IS-34)        -55.5  0.0
15005A  INMARSAT 5-F2              -55.0  0.0
98006B  INMARSAT 3-F5              -54.0  3.0
12057A  INTELSAT 23 (IS-23)        -53.0  0.0
16004A  INTELSAT 29E (IS-29E)      -50.0  0.0

(from: http://www.satsig.net/sslist.htm)

These are nothing more than reflection coordinates off the dome. You act like this is science, no it's spooky demon BS.

Yes, and all of those reflecting points have tons of different transmitters directed to them.
Put small mirror on ceiling and see from how many points you have to shine small laser to cover the whole floor.

So, for satellite above Congo receivers in Libya have transmitters in Soth Africa and vice versa. :)
And to cover reception in Saudi Arabia they had to put tons of transmitters in South Atlantic. :)

And then explain how they managed to make those "reflection points" look like they are 35 786 kilometers above the Equator, if "dome" is only 6305 kilometers high.

You are not trying to prove anything.
You are only trying to convince those who don't know enough.