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What happened to ye olde:



It should read 'to suspect and shoot'

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 19, 2022, 04:49:49 AM »
Could it be that people are sick and dying because covid ravaged their bodies and fudged up their heart, lung's and brain? Just because you 'survive' covid, doesn't mean you're out of the woods. More than a few are left with permanent damage and scarring. We know internal scarring can increase likelihood of cancer so we should expect to see an increase in those. No doubt anti vaxxer muppets will try to link the vaccine to cancer lol

I've yet to see people like Tom explain away how the vaccine is more harmful than the virus. Using actual science and facts and not made up BS

I don't care though. Covid is nature's way of culling the stupid at this point

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: February 03, 2022, 06:34:12 AM »
Actually, you need to learn more about public Wikis. It's not an outlet with specific editors who are specifically dishonest. It's a publicly editable Wiki, and its statements are validated with linked references like Wikipedia.

Since you don't actually have a rebuttal to the content we can see that your argument is a failure. "They are conservative" isn't analogous to "lying". Sites like Rasmussen or  Conservapedia are not discredited by merely being conservative. This is a terrible argument. You are discrediting yourself by claiming such nonsense in your failure to produce a legitimate argument.

It's just that so many conservitard sites are dishonest. Breitbart, info wars, Fox etc. Lying and disinformation is at the core of how they operate.

What's a website or news organisation that is unapologetically far left of politics? I'm pretty sure it's just as much full of shit as the far right gtoups

Take politics and bias out and you are left with neutrality and maybe a hint of truth.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: January 25, 2022, 04:50:20 PM »
Legend

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 25, 2022, 05:16:15 AM »
Alright. I’ve finally found exactly where Shifter’s stat came from.

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/covid-19-vaccination-vaccination-data-24-january-2022

92.9% of Australians 16+ have gotten 2+ doses of vaccine. Thork is shit. Another victory for TFES!

Yep. And if you have a look, they have been able to break down the numbers by age, gender, disabled, aged care residents, indigenous people etc

So the report isn't numbers plucked out of the air or lazy 'divide total doses by 2' nonsense lol

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: January 25, 2022, 05:12:41 AM »
No. He's not saying 'just remove weight restrictions'. He's backing it up spending billions of dollars in an infrastructure program to repair and upgrade the bridges so if you're a b-double truck hauling goods, you don't need to take a long detour on account of a shitty bridge in disrepair. It apparantly has bipartisan support so maybe there are some repugs worthy of your ire too? Or do you have no objectivity and just bash 'whatever a democrat says because democrat'.

Kinda hilarious for Trump to talk about anyone else lying. That guy was the biggest bullshit artist of them all

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: January 25, 2022, 04:52:48 AM »
So he thinks that a bridge can be upgraded to have no weight restrictions in the tweet I posted? Sounds pretty idiotic to me.

This what happens when you elect a senile old president who plagiarized coursework in law school, managing to graduate at the bottom of his class.

You think you can do better big mouth?

Also your repugnican party appears to be on board with it too

If you actually read things in context you would understand that thd bridges are in a state of severe disrepair and that trucks may be unable to safely use it. So fixing that removes the weight restriction on

FFS he's not claiming the weight holding capacity will be infinite and nobodies trucking across them with a load of neutronium.

It's so that you, an individual driver of your vehicle have no issue driving across the bridge

Who is the senile old man here? Seriously stop embarrassing yourself with own goals


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 24, 2022, 07:50:05 PM »
Also, using proper records we can tell how many within 'x' age group are vaccinated. Or how many people with disabilities are vaccinated. Or aboriginal people etc

No one uses the total doses administered and then 'divides by 2' lol.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 24, 2022, 05:26:46 PM »
Lots of people have had 3 doses though. And some (immune compromised), 4 doses.

Using number of doses given and assuming only 2 doses is a silly way to gauge how many people got the vaccine

Better way is to use records. Everyone getting the vaccine has a Medicare card number and vaccines are recorded in there. So you can easily tell who has and who hasn't had a vaccine. Who has gone as far as a 3rd dose and who has only had 1

Using the total amount of doses given and comparing it to your population number is dumb

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 24, 2022, 06:16:35 AM »
~99% of people aged 12+ in my city Canberra has had 2 doses of the vaccine. Most of us have now had 3 doses. ~50% of kids 5-11 have had it so far and that's continuing to rise. When are we all going to die? We have a grand total of 4 in ICU and 3 of those were not vaccinated. Is this the doom and gloom scenerio antivaxxers were going on about?

~93% of Australians 16+ have had 2 doses

Are the Australian people soon to be wiped out? What do you think Tom? What's in store for Australia?


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 31, 2021, 01:15:12 AM »
Lol Tom giving an own goal

She talked about drunk, insane and unstable White House in reference to a repug occupation of it lol

Also when Bush slammed Trump it actually was an attack on Trump. The man and the president style. How much stock did Tom take on those criticisms?

Tom embarrasses himself with every post

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 26, 2021, 03:37:14 AM »
Joe Biden inflicted the greatest insult to the pathetic meme possible. He ignored it

Now look at the repugnicans lose their minds. Hahaha

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: December 24, 2021, 11:44:10 AM »
Nobody has said masks prevent infections. It has always been said it would slow the spread of infections

Everyone who participates in society is going to catch the corona. The idea behind masks was that not everyone is infected at the same time overwhelming healthcare services. Vaccines vastly reduce the chance you'll need hospital care

It's risk reduction.
I agree with yous assertion that mask wearing slows the spread of the Coronavirus, and decreases
the risk of catching it, but to say that "everyone" is going to catch it is not correct.  In an Australian
population of 20,400,000 aged 15+ years, there have been 265,000 confirmed cases to date, which
is only 1.3% of the population.

Not all are active participants. Canberra is 99% vaxxed and not very 'big' by city standards and despite my best mitigating efforts and going out sparsely I have been very close to being in contact with it on numerous occasions. Imagine how many would be infected with no vaccine or mitigating efforts to control the spread.... I'll be thankful if I can escape the Christmas gatherings unscathed.

If you go out to work, have kids in school, do shopping, see friends or any other leisure activities, it really is only a matter of time. Hopefully for the unvaxxed sakes, the variant floating around is mild by the time that happens. Countries are going to go back to mostly pre covid life eventually. As sure as shit we get the common cold, we are going to get some form of this SARS menace

I prefer to be vaccinated when that happens. And it's going to happen.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 23, 2021, 09:13:59 AM »
Why would Joe, leaving Afghanistan be an 'impeachable' offence? What would he be indicted on? It was never going to be clean. And it was Trumps plan too lol. Joe was just in the hot seat when the timetable called for it

The war has been deeply unpopular for over a decade. It's been ridiculously costly too. Funny how repugs hated the war but when a dem got them out they want to 'impeach' them lol

If Trump was still on power, he'd have left and it would have been just as messy (if not worse) given his adoration of the Taliban. Before he left office he emboldened them. He even allowed them time to prep and plan giving them the timetable of Americas departure. Great going

And you can bet, the repugs would be very forgiving of Trump no matter how messy the withdrawal.

The thing is, you can't 'destroy' the Taliban any more than you can destroy the repugnican party. It's an idea. Not a thing or specific people. America could be in Afghanistan another 20 years. Nothing would change and the Taliban would still take over

America was right to leave. Should not have even bothered with that hellscape in the first place. But guess which party thought it was a great idea to begin with.....

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 21, 2021, 08:11:21 AM »
Incorrect. Biden's unpopularity and wanting Biden impeached does have something to do with each other.

Yeah. The repugs are like immature children. Impeach because you don't like a guy. Reason enough for them

Trumps impeachment trials were because he is a legit traitor to America. Only cronyism saved Trump from actually getting indicted.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 19, 2021, 10:52:25 PM »
This is what confuses me. He seems to arguing that medicine is a waste of time, which seems particularly stupid.

Yeah, it's been his go-to argument against COVID regulations for a while now, people die anyway so why try to save them. Maybe being terminally ill has skewed his perspective or something.  :(

He's only trolling about being terminally ill. Unless of course like all the victims of Covid who were apparantly going to die soon enough anyway and thus have no value that he has no value either

Which, looking at the nonsense he posts is objectively true anyway.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 19, 2021, 07:45:18 PM »
Does Action80 ever get tired of being wrong? I've yet to see him be correct on anything. I get he's a troll but even still, c'mon.....

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: December 19, 2021, 05:16:45 AM »
For me this isn't about government mandates. This is a private sector thing.
In my factory, I'm paying for health insurance. I'm responsible for the safety of the people here. I have to breathe in your pathogens.
If you want to work here, you get vaccinated.

I don't give a crap what the government or the Book of Revelations or Vladimir Putin says.

If you have some problem with getting vaccinated, this isn't the job for you. Just like a vegetarian Hindu is not going to work in a slaughterhouse.
Just keep wearing your highly effective mask and you won't be breathing in any pathogens.

Nobody has said masks prevent infections. It has always been said it would slow the spread of infections

Everyone who participates in society is going to catch the corone. The idea behind masks was that not everyone is infected at the same time overwhelming healthcare services. Vaccines vastly reduce the chance you'll need hospital care

It's risk reduction.

Not surprising that concept is beyond the grasp of a repugnican voter though

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: December 18, 2021, 03:09:14 AM »
For me this isn't about government mandates. This is a private sector thing.
In my factory, I'm paying for health insurance. I'm responsible for the safety of the people here. I have to breathe in your pathogens.
If you want to work here, you get vaccinated.

I don't give a crap what the government or the Book of Revelations or Vladimir Putin says.

If you have some problem with getting vaccinated, this isn't the job for you. Just like a vegetarian Hindu is not going to work in a slaughterhouse.

It's ironic how many people are anti-vaxx but also hoo-rah pro-Armed Forces despite the fact that being anti-vaxx will earn you a dishonorable discharge now.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/12/17/1065286802/u-s-military-moves-to-discharge-service-members-who-refuse-to-get-vaccinated

Not even just a simple let go but a DISHONOURABLE discharge. Nice. Good.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: December 17, 2021, 09:56:51 AM »
The issue is that the two products are "legally distinct", as indicated in the article.

EUA drugs and vaccines are given a special status that prevents lawsuits. You can't sue if an EUA drug or vaccine injures or harms you, but you have more legal standing to sue if an approved drug or vaccine injures or harms you. This is why they are playing games and not releasing the FDA approved version.

No one cares that you don't want the vaccine. In fact, we are all hoping that you continue to be an anti vaxxer and when covid finds you, it won't be kind. But hey, you'll get your 'natural immunity'..... If you survive. If your avatar is accurate it'll be a roll of the dice odds. Good luck ::)

Ivermectin won't save you either. Please continue to think Ivermectin is the cure.

Dont take the ones for humans either. Dose is too low for covid busting purpose. Get the paste for farm animals and use it like it's mustard


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