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Flat Earth Theory / Re: SpaceX commercial satellite launch
« on: December 13, 2013, 06:10:10 AM »
As I see it, Tom is making two arguments: 1) SpaceX can't be a genuine third-party because they are so heavily regulated by the government, and 2) SpaceX can't be a genuine third-party because no one but NASA can make rocket engines.
To the first point, the fact that SpaceX is heavily regulated is irrelevant. The same can be said of every business in America. I couldn't start a business designing and building my own airplanes without heavy government regulation from many different agencies over many different aspects of my business. That wouldn't be evidence that my new airplane company is secretly being run by the FAA.
To the second point, you still haven't produced evidence that it's true, or that all orbital rocket technology is classified/illegal/whatever else. You've only asserted it. I can't find any example of such a law, and I can find lots of examples of rocket engine schematics and technical diagrams. Here are a few of them that I found just for the F-1 engine:
Some of these pdfs are large-ish.
http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/saturn_apollo/documents/F-1_Engine.pdf
http://heroicrelics.org/info/f-1/r-3896-1a/F-1%20Rocket%20Engine%20Technical%20Manual%20Supplement%20(R-3896-1A)%20(small).pdf
http://agentdc.uah.edu/homepages/dcfiles/USSRC/F1EngiFamiTraiManu%20Section%201_072308152849.pdf
There is no reason to believe that SpaceX would be unable to (or prohibited from) design and build their own rocket engines.
I'm still curious to know what kind of evidence you think would be acceptable to get to the truth of the matter. You can begin to convince me that you're correct by showing me the relevant law that prohibits SpaceX from doing what it alleges it does. What evidence or source would you be willing to consider as valid evidence that SpaceX is a private entity?
To the first point, the fact that SpaceX is heavily regulated is irrelevant. The same can be said of every business in America. I couldn't start a business designing and building my own airplanes without heavy government regulation from many different agencies over many different aspects of my business. That wouldn't be evidence that my new airplane company is secretly being run by the FAA.
To the second point, you still haven't produced evidence that it's true, or that all orbital rocket technology is classified/illegal/whatever else. You've only asserted it. I can't find any example of such a law, and I can find lots of examples of rocket engine schematics and technical diagrams. Here are a few of them that I found just for the F-1 engine:
Some of these pdfs are large-ish.
http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/saturn_apollo/documents/F-1_Engine.pdf
http://heroicrelics.org/info/f-1/r-3896-1a/F-1%20Rocket%20Engine%20Technical%20Manual%20Supplement%20(R-3896-1A)%20(small).pdf
http://agentdc.uah.edu/homepages/dcfiles/USSRC/F1EngiFamiTraiManu%20Section%201_072308152849.pdf
There is no reason to believe that SpaceX would be unable to (or prohibited from) design and build their own rocket engines.
I'm still curious to know what kind of evidence you think would be acceptable to get to the truth of the matter. You can begin to convince me that you're correct by showing me the relevant law that prohibits SpaceX from doing what it alleges it does. What evidence or source would you be willing to consider as valid evidence that SpaceX is a private entity?