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You believe that if there was a large ruler in the sky between the sun and the moon that a straight ruler would appear to curve in the sky.
For what reason would a straight line appear curved? A straight line should appear straight, no matter which angle you look at it from. You are providing nothing but nonsense explanations.
If I may ask, why does the history of the NASA conspiracy in the FAQ section only start with Apollo 1?
"No one would believe?" The FE side claims that the whole world already believes things the FE find ridiculous, why would no one believe this? Airplanes reach targets thousands of miles away slowly; I don't think anyone would have trouble accepting that a missile could go higher and faster in order to reach that same target quickly.
If I pretend I have a back yard full of fire-breathing dragons threatening the kids next door, the neighbors wouldn't feel the need to also pretend to have their own dragons in an effort to comfort their kids; they would prove that dragons aren't a thing and therefore I don't actually have any.
By the same token, if China or North Korea could prove that the nations with ICBMs are making the whole thing up, there is no need to pretend to have ICBMs of their own, because they aren't even a real thing (in that world)!
That would preclude you from claiming to have ICBMs that can destroy any country at the push of a button (therefore untouchable), and you risk that you will not be believed.Nonsense, you could claim a missile flies high up and far away without needing to also claim it can reach space.
Exactly my point. It's hella expensive to run a space program, if you are China or India (for example) it would be cheaper to NOT play with rockets and instead spend a small amount of money debunking the US program. Nobody does this. Why not?
The sky is not a sphere which things rest against.True, it is much larger and more complex than that simplistic image, as any RE will tell you.
It's also not a two dimensional object like a photograph, which invalidates the method of moon angle measurement attempted by the guy in your thread-opening video. Spherical Geometry is difficult and occasionally counterintuitive.
Your video accidentally undermines the flat earth. The guy claims there is something wrong with the moon angle, but he leaves unspoken the rest of the sentence: "if the earth-moon-sun system is the way I imagine it: flat earth, small nearby sun, small nearby moon of identical size and distance." The fact that things don't look like you think they should under your model? That suggests your model is wrong.
Non-allied countries tend to cast doubt and skepticism on each other's space capabilities.
Why bother pretending to even have a space program? It would be cheaper to expose the "fraud" of the big players.
Isn't one of FE tenets that the heavens are a dome?
No matter, for all of us, FE or Spherical, the sky appears to be a semi-sphere.
a) There are multiple foreign nations who have travelled to space - many of whom are openly hostile to the USA. None of them blabbed?
b) There are multiple non-government agencies (SpaceX, for example) who would have to have been in collusion. None of them blabbed?
c) Not one "death bed" confession from an astronaut? Really? Not a single one?
d) What about all of those astronomers - they'd all have to be in on it. Nobody blabbed?
e) What about all of the people who build and sell GPS equipment, without satellites in orbit, GPS can't work the way it's claimed - but the people who write the software for these things would also have to be a part of the conspiracy.
f) Ditto satellite TV companies.
g) All of those ships, drones and aircraft that are claimed to be patrolling The Great Ice Barrier have to be in on the conspiracy - so do the people who build those ships, the people who supply them, the people who crew and repair them. So do all of the countries who have navies down there who'd have spotted them. So do all of the air-traffic control people who watch these aircraft land and take off in huge numbers.
h) Navigation by the stars can't work the same way in FE as it does in RE. But sailing ships going back to the 1600's used this navigation technique...and their sailors wrote manuals about it - there are copious books on the subject. Every commercial shipping company and every navy in the world would have had to be a part of the conspiracy.
i) But hold on - the ancient Chinese had fleets that sailed around the pacific and indian oceans using celestial navigation - and they did this BEFORE they met the Europeans who were doing the same exact thing. This means that they both, independently, discovered that the world is flat and separately decided to collude on this (seemingly) more bizarre round-earth solution to whatever problem caused them to do this coverup.
j) Now add all of those sailors - not a single one of them came home from years at sea and told their wives and family that there was an enormous cover-up to hide the flat earth?
k) The pirates of the caribbean and south seas had to navigate by the stars. They LOVED upsetting the apple cart. Why didn't a single one of them expose the secret FE navigation charts and whatever stood in for a theodolite?
So NASA fakes the possibility of space travel to further America's dominance of space but what about the other space agencies ?
Are all of these government and space agencies working together to maintain the conspiracy ?
They are each competing for space dominance and then still collaborating to fake space travel ?
Bishop, you aren't serious about that, right? Ever heard of a spherical sky map? The straight lines just don't work.
Woof, you guys need to study a bit of math really. You draw conclusions like a 1-grade boy. Do you have B.Sc degree in anything technical?
Nobulart, your shadows on the 3rd (woman on the beach far right) and 4th pictures (awning shadow far left portion of the house on the right) do not line up with the sun, how can we trust that the lens distortion ... or whatever... isn't so bad that drawing a line from point a to point b on any of them are true to life representations?
I printed out the picture and bent it into a semi-circle. Bam! The sun and the woman's shadow lined right up. I also domed the sky and cut up a line of sticky notes. Bam! The sun and the moon's shadow line right up.
Following the horizon from the moon to the sun isn't the only straight line between them. The one that bisects the moon is the true straight line in 3D space. The rest are illusions.
Here's a pic... (my dome cutting was off a little, but it's really close)
also this: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/deleted-official-report-says-saudi-key-funder-hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-223282807
nothing about the clinton story is coroborrated. it's literally just a zerohedge article saying "someone said that saudis give money to the clinton campaign."
In contrast, Hillary Clinton actually accepted money from a foreign power for her campaign, which IS a crime.
A crank website claiming this doesn't make it true.
Read the literature, Tom, it's all there. I'm not going to do your research for you.
It's called opposition research, and everyone does it. Hillary's team met with the russians peddling the Trump-Stripper-Pee story. How is this any different?
The problem is that Opposition Research does not allow foreign governments to provide that information. Especially as support on behalf of said government.
