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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2014, 05:09:03 PM »
Clearly direct distances are different between 2 places on a flat earth compared with a spherical one.

How about Paris to Honk Kong on a flat earth map compared with the accepted, verified spherical distance.  Based on the fact that nobody disputes spherical distances.

Once again - no one travels as if the earth is flat.  No one travels across the north pole because that's silly.  Navigation is done using the magnetic field and lines of latitude and longitude.   Stop thinking in terms of "the earth is a sheet of paper" and start thinking in terms of "the earth is a plane with radial lines of magnetic force" (and possibly space, but that's entirely conjecture on my part).

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2014, 06:15:29 PM »
Once again - no one travels as if the earth is flat.
Not even flat earthers?
Abandon hope all ye who press enter here.

Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.

Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. -- Charles Darwin

If you can't demonstrate it, then you shouldn't believe it.

Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2014, 06:40:38 PM »
We are discussing direct measured distances, not travel.

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2014, 06:57:43 PM »

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2014, 07:06:36 PM »
Once again - no one travels as if the earth is flat.
Not even flat earthers?

Flat as in "distance across a sheet of paper?"  No, not even us.

Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2014, 07:58:12 PM »
Again, direct measured distances.

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2014, 08:55:07 PM »
Again, direct measured distances.

You keep using those words, and continue to not make a point.

Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2014, 09:21:03 PM »
Distances will be different on a round earth and a flat earth.  Round earth distances match reality.

Where is there a flat earth map with a scale?

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2014, 01:54:12 PM »
Distances will be different on a round earth and a flat earth.  Round earth distances match reality.
Two out of two claims here are yet to be substantiated. Please hold yourself to at least your own standards.

*ahem*

Details please to explain.
Read the FAQ before asking your question - chances are we already addressed it.
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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2014, 03:20:27 PM »
Distances will be different on a round earth and a flat earth.  Round earth distances match reality.
Two out of two claims here are yet to be substantiated. Please hold yourself to at least your own standards.

*ahem*

Details please to explain.
Basic geometry between points on flat paper v. spherical object.

Please show otherwise for distances between places.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2014, 03:33:38 PM by inquisitive »

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2014, 03:32:02 PM »
Distances will be different on a round earth and a flat earth.  Round earth distances match reality.
Two out of two claims here are yet to be substantiated. Please hold yourself to at least your own standards.

*ahem*

Details please to explain.
Basic geometry.  Please show otherwise.

Euclidean geometry assumes a planar earth.

Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2014, 03:34:15 PM »
Distances will be different on a round earth and a flat earth.  Round earth distances match reality.
Two out of two claims here are yet to be substantiated. Please hold yourself to at least your own standards.

*ahem*

Details please to explain.
Basic geometry.  Please show otherwise.

Euclidean geometry assumes a planar earth.
Please explain.

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2014, 03:43:42 PM »
Distances will be different on a round earth and a flat earth.  Round earth distances match reality.
Two out of two claims here are yet to be substantiated. Please hold yourself to at least your own standards.

*ahem*

Details please to explain.
Basic geometry.  Please show otherwise.

Euclidean geometry assumes a planar earth.
Please explain.

Euclidean geometry is planar geometry.  In order to describe the earth as a sphere one can no longer use Euclidean geometry.  Round earthers agree with this, it's why spherical geometry was invented.

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2014, 05:19:06 PM »
Inquisitive: Because of basic geometry, you're wrong. Please show otherwise.
Read the FAQ before asking your question - chances are we already addressed it.
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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2014, 05:55:32 PM »
Inquisitive: Because of basic geometry, you're wrong. Please show otherwise.
Consider a square with 10cm sides.  What is the distance to a point in the middle of the square?

How consider those points to be on a football.  What is the distance to a point equidistant to the 4 points?  A bit longer.

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2014, 08:39:11 PM »
Consider a square with 10cm sides.  What is the distance to a point in the middle of the square?

How consider those points to be on a football.  What is the distance to a point equidistant to the 4 points?  A bit longer.
The 4 points are undefined, and neither is the size of the football. Could you please try to make a point sometime soon?
Read the FAQ before asking your question - chances are we already addressed it.
Follow the Flat Earth Society on Twitter and Facebook!

If we are not speculating then we must assume

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2014, 08:44:39 PM »
It does not help that on this particular point he is trying to make you are being willfully ignorant as to the differences of spherical versus planar geometry.

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2014, 10:01:51 PM »
It does not help that he is using vague concepts to try to prove a non existent point.  inquisitive tends to like to make hypothetical statements and then try to use them to prove a point that he never declares. 

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Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2014, 10:50:42 PM »
It does not help that he is using vague concepts to try to prove a non existent point.  inquisitive tends to like to make hypothetical statements and then try to use them to prove a point that he never declares.

I mean presumably he believes the earth is a sphere, but starting threads saying things like "choose two points and tell me the distance between them" is a really weird way to prove that claim, in that it doesn't.  At all.

Re: Unipolar, bipolar, disc, square, infinite plane?
« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2014, 11:31:15 PM »
I'm trying to get over the fact that the distances between places cannot be the same on both types of earth.

Not helped by a lack of a flat earth map...