Is Earth rotating faster?
« on: March 11, 2025, 09:21:48 AM »
This clip was filmed yesterday in England:

https://www.tiktok.com/@j4y_k4y_74/video/7479898573694389526

From the comments:

Romoni – Intuitive Heart: Yes, I confirm from London – it was really fast today. And visible at 12 o'clock!

OnSeagullwings: I didn't look at the moon, but I was staring at Orion the other day. It was flying   straight and steady over the horizon, from south to north, for an hour like an airplane. Strange. Maybe the Earth's rotation speed was disrupted?

Mel: This isn't the first time I've encountered this. I first noticed it back in 2015.

Ricardo Vincent: I didn't look at the speed, but yesterday in the UK the moon was visible all day. What's that like?

dugstar39: The last 5 days in Manchester the sun and moon have been visible all day. It's quite strange, but as a resident of the Commonwealth of Nations I wonder what they see in Australia at this time of year. Have we left them without a moon?


Here is an observation made by a RE scientist in New Mexico (where he lives):

"Local residents informed me that the position of the Sun had recently moved - strangely and dramatically - westward. By my rough estimate, the Sun’s position about an hour after dawn (aka the Earth’s tilt) had been displaced by nearly 30 degrees (along the 360 degrees Earth spin). That measure is quite easily taken although wearing safety sunglasses is recommended. Stretch both arms, hands side by side, on the left side of the Sun, and then move your right hand to the other side of the left. That’s roughly 36 degrees to the east, where the Sun used to be. However, that simple measure no longer applies, due to a very strange shift of the Sun’s trajectory over this past month.

However, over the past week prior to this deadline, the Sun suddenly returned - flipped back - to its former position! That indicates a major down-shift of the Sun and its wobble along the pole (and any related electromagnetic forces along the Earth’s central core) back to its original position. Whether that is a welcome revival of the Sun’s original axis of spin or merely a temporary jog, a momentary repositioning of the Earth’s core, has yet to be determined.

I witness this rather disturbing shift of Earth orbit every day, while walking the dog or driving in southern New Mexico. The sunrise and the Moon’s orbital path are both off-center from their previous trajectories. If you hold up your raised hands to the sky, the morning Sun has shifted westward by three hand-widths or approximately 30 degrees (in an Earth circle of 360 degrees)."
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Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2025, 10:07:41 AM »
The earth is flat and stationary.
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2025, 11:15:21 AM »
The Earth's rotation rate does have small natural variations, but not at the scale or speed that would create the dramatic visual effects described in these anecdotes.

The apparent movement of the moon during daylight hours is completely normal. The moon is often visible during the day, especially around full moon, and its visibility depends on its phase and position relative to the Earth and sun.

Similarly, Orion's movement across the sky follows predictable patterns based on Earth's rotation and our viewing perspective from different locations and times of year.

The claim about a 30-degree shift in the sun's position would represent a catastrophic change to Earth's rotation or axis - this would cause worldwide disasters, massive climate disruption, and would be immediately documented by thousands of astronomical observatories, satellites, GPS systems, and other technologies that depend on precise measurements of Earth's orientation.

These reports appear to be misinterpretations of normal celestial movements or optical illusions. Scientific instruments across the globe continuously monitor Earth's rotation with extremely high precision, and no significant anomalies of this magnitude have been detected.

If you're interested in accurate astronomical information, I'd recommend resources from NASA, your local planetarium, or astronomy education websites rather than social media anecdotes.

Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2025, 11:35:37 AM »
(Innuit solar observations from years ago)

NASA can't explain why the Gizeh pyramid was covered in water up to an elevation of 100 meters in recent historical Times.

NASA cannot explain the faint young sun paradox.

No one can explain the movement of the Moon in that clip.

A 30 degree shift in the Sun's position is explained only within the bounds of FET.

We are approaching the astronomical reset, where soon the Sun will rise from the West and then set in the East.
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Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2025, 11:13:19 AM »
No one can explain the movement of the Moon in that clip.
I'm not sure I particularly believe it. Obviously if it was moving that fast then you'd see that everywhere so why don't you test for yourself?
Possible the foreground object is moving, I can't quite tell what that is. And obviously he's zoomed in - the more you zoom in the more the apparent moving will be. I've been dabbling in astrophotography recently but have borrowed a very basic entry level telescope with a mount which has no motor in it. So I'm constantly having the adjust it to keep the moon in frame, not because it's moving "quickly" but because it's zoomed in.
It's cloudy today, next time it's clear I can have a go at taking a video but as I said you can too wherever you are.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2025, 08:35:08 PM »
Take a look at the comments, there were other eyewitnesses who were watching the Moon moving faster than usual.

https://sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe083.htm

And the moon shall alter her order,
And not appear at her time.
And in those days the sun shall be seen and he shall journey in the evening †on the extremity of the great chariot† in the west
And shall shine more brightly than accords with the order of light.

And many chiefs of the stars shall transgress the order (prescribed).
And these shall alter their orbits and tasks,
And not appear at the seasons prescribed to them.

All of these things are going to happen once the Sun will start to orbit beyond the Tropic (astronomical reset).  The reset will start in the Orion and Gemini constellations area.

Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2025, 10:30:44 PM »
Curious indeed.  So if it's "moving faster", it must be rising and setting earlier than in published tables?  Seems just fine here in England. 

What we perceive as "movement of the Moon" from Earth, however, is a misinterpretation of the facts.  Although the Moon appears to progress East to West, or left to right as observed in the northern hemisphere, that is not the Moon moving.  As an observer on Earth we are actually moving from West to East, giving the appearance of Lunar movement to the West (the "increased speed" supposedly observed and videoed). 

So what the video perports to demonstrate is that the Earth has increased in speed.  If so why did the Sun rise and set today just as predicted? 

Of course, it's actually more complicated than that.  The Moon is really moving relative to the rest of the sky, but its actually orbiting from west to East, right to left; That's why, each night, the Moon rises a little later, sets a little later, and appears further East each night relative to other stellar objects. 

So if the Moon was moving faster, that motion would appear to an Earthbound observer as a reduction in it's rate of westward movement across the sky. 

Having said all of that, it's perhaps worth pointing out that this, like the sister Mars-rotation thread currently running and most of what this poster puts out, though moderately entertaining, is complete hokum.  Outlandish claims are made, and critical replies generate increasingly obscure videos, references and quotations, all couched in quasi-mystical mumbo jumbo. 

Lets look at some verifyable facts.  The "Moon going faster video" is from a handheld camera, the exact location in "England" is unknown and unverified, there is no evidence that the camera was stationary.  Did the observer check the Moon's position against a chart, or just film it for 15 seconds and put it on line?  The comments from usernames are gossip.  The comment from an "RE scientist in New Mexico (where he lives)" is gobbledegook.  Just spend a minute reading it.  Does it even make sense?  Quote;

By my rough estimate, the Sun’s position about an hour after dawn (aka the Earth’s tilt) had been displaced by nearly 30 degrees (along the 360 degrees Earth spin).


Is that a scientist?  What does he mean? 

What about these;

"No one can explain the movement of the Moon in that clip".  Really? 

"NASA can't explain why the Gizeh pyramid was covered in water up to an elevation of 100 meters in recent historical Times".  Why would thew National Aeronautics and Space Administration even be investigating wet pyramids?

"We are approaching the astronomical reset, where soon the Sun will rise from the West and then set in the East".  What?  How is this going to happen?  I mean, give us some actual mechanics.  Does the earth/Celestial Dome change rotation?  Why? And in the constellations of Orion and Gemini?  Again, Why?  and how do you know?  And should we be doing some prepping? 

Whatever shape the Earth and Heavens there are quite a few people standing on the former and observing the latter.  Astronomers, mariners, aviators, meteorologists; professional, amateur or just mildly interested.  Whatever the mechanics of the Cosmos, across the Globe/plain literally hundreds of millions of people watch the skies, predict phenomena, and in many cases use those predictions to plan their activities. 

If the Moon or Mars were actually getting faster or slower, don't you think someone else would have noticed? 

Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2025, 07:50:25 AM »
You seem to be so sure when describing the Moon, and yet one of the most important scientists who ever worked for Nasa was much more humble:

The Moon has astonishing synchronicity with the Sun. When the Sun is at its lowest and weakest in mid-winter, the Moon is at its highest and brightest, and the reverse occurs in mid-summer. Both set at the same point on the horizon at the equinoxes and at the opposite point at the solstices. What are the chances that the Moon would naturally find an orbit so perfect that it would cover the Sun at an eclipse and appear from Earth to be the same size? What are chances that the alignments would be so perfect at the equinoxes and solstices?

    Farouk El Baz,
    NASA

That person was not filming the rising/setting of the Moon. The clip features a very fast motion of the Moon, right at that point in time.

Here are more clips featuring very strange phenomena:

This was filmed in Kiev, just last night:

https://x.com/KyivOperativ/status/1899944124981399966

https://x.com/UaCoins/status/1899942206565146801

This was caught on camera in LA:

https://x.com/ZT_Followers/status/1899868898448859185

This is from Cornwall:

https://x.com/ZT_Followers/status/1897438660091326943


The very best scientists at Stanford University were very concerned about the fact that the Gizen plateau was inundated for weeks. So was Dr. Luis Alvarez (Nobel prize winner):

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2225892#msg2225892

It was not the Thera volcanic eruption. The Earth, in the heliocentrical setting, must have undergone a polar shift.

The Pentagon had sent a team of physicists to measure the changes in the position of the north magnetic pole:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190521125906/https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Kenneth%20White%20-%20World%20in%20Peril%20(extracted%20pages).pdf

Their findings? They were expecting (1946) the reversal of the magnetic poles and the polar shift of the Earth.


The mechanics of the astronomical reset, according to my research:

A comet is going start the entire reset, there are four choices; two of these comets were involved in the 1811-1812 geological reset of North and Central America. The other two are comet Halley and comet Hale-Bopp.

In 1811, on December 16, a meteor from comet 12P/Pons-Brooks struck the New Madrid fault, causing the largest earthquake ever recorded:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2419438#msg2419438

Alexander Humboldt had described the tremendous geological upheaval in Central and South America:

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/6322/pg6322-images.html (chapter 1.14)

In 1812 a series of very powerful earthquakes realigned the island of California with the north-american continent:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2169555#msg2169555 (seven consecutive messages)

Comet Encke will play a role at the end of the astronomical reset.

Then, a massive Birkeland currents wave, starting from Sgr A West (or Sgr A) will hit the Orion/Gemini constellations. In the past, this kind of event caused the Crab Nebula supernova.

The most powerful hipernova had occurred in the Geminorum area, the so-called Rudra event which had been described in Vedic mythology. Rudra is the Betelgeuse star, and at the same time is planet Mars.

The reversal of the magnetic poles will take place, accompanied by the rotation of the entire stellar dome, the North Star will not be Polaris anymore.

At the same time, the Sun will start to orbit beyond the Tropic, in order to reach the other side of the dome, where it will rise from west to east (or north to south).


Here is one of the greatest scientists at Nasa, Dr. Norman Bergrun, who wrote a book saying that the rings of Saturn are being created continuously by giant UFOs:

https://archive.org/details/ringmakers-of-saturn/page/3/mode/1up

"Bergrun is a distinguished former NASA research engineer who has made major innovative contributions to multiple U.S. aeronautic, missile and rocket programs.

He has also won many top science and engineering awards, including the California Society of Professional Engineers Archimedes Engineering Achievement Award."


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Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2025, 08:47:55 AM »
Take a look at the comments, there were other eyewitnesses who were watching the Moon moving faster than usual.
Comments by random people on the internet? Well, there's no way that can be inaccurate then.
I've offered a few possibilities. Do your own tests. Isn't that the Zetetic way.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2025, 08:55:28 AM »
This was filmed in Kiev, just last night:
And what's going on in Ukraine right now which could offer a different explanation for what that is? Did you even look at the text? I did, and used Google to translate. It says:

"Ahahaha, a meteorite? Yeah, let's have an alien landing.
PS: if anything, our air defense forces will handle them too."

There's no claim made that it's the moon. The implication of the bit I've bolded is that it's a missile or drone. Which makes a whole lot more sense than the moon going at that speed which would surely have been seen by a lot of people and been a major news story.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2025, 09:38:42 AM »
I did not claim it was the Moon (in the clip from Kiev). All of these celestial events, which are occurring very often now, are leading to the astronomical reset.

Take a look at the date inscribed on the 1$ note (or the date featured on the tablet held by the Statue of Liberty).

https://theskylive.com/planetarium?obj=jupiter&date=1776-07-04&h=17&m=22

https://theskylive.com/planetarium?obj=jupiter&date=1776-06-21&h=17&m=22

https://theskylive.com/planetarium?obj=jupiter&date=2025-06-21&h=17&m=22

https://theskylive.com/planetarium?obj=jupiter&date=2025-07-04&h=17&m=22

I am not stating that the reset will occur at the summer solstice; however, these astronomical correlations show us that we are very close to this celestial adjustment.

Remember what I was telling everyone here some three years ago: for a real pandemic you need a huge volcanic eruption, which is exactly what happened on October 12, 1918 (the largest eruption of the century, Katla). It was the dust from comet Halley (1910) which caused the influenza pandemic. When the comet is going to appear in the sky, there is bound to be some volcanic eruptions which will unleash some kind of a new epidemic.


Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2025, 11:03:04 AM »
More unverified footage and mystic references.  Good. 

"The Moon has astonishing synchronicity with the Sun. When the Sun is at its lowest and weakest in mid-winter, the Moon is at its highest and brightest, and the reverse occurs in mid-summer. Both set at the same point on the horizon at the equinoxes and at the opposite point at the solstices. What are the chances that the Moon would naturally find an orbit so perfect that it would cover the Sun at an eclipse and appear from Earth to be the same size? What are chances that the alignments would be so perfect at the equinoxes and solstices"?

El Baz is correct, of course; the relationships of size/distance regarding Earth/Sun/Moon are a remarkable coincidence.  If the relationship was not thus, of course the events would still happen, the moon would occasionally throw a shadow on the Earth, and the Earth on the Sun.  Say the Moon was significantly smaller, it's effect would be to only cast a penumbra on the Earth, hardly spectacular.  On the other hand, rather than turning a nice shade of pink, a Lunar eclipse would likely disappear the Moon altogether!  Wouldn't that be something!  Wouldn't that be a coincidence! 

With respect to the reverse-symmetry of the aparent elevation of Sun and Moon, isn't it just plain obvious, given that the Moon orbits (like every major body in the Solar System) in almost the same plain; the Ecliptic?  Hadn't you noticed that yourself, that the sun is higher in Summer and the Moon lower, and vice versa in Winter?  Hadn't you worked out why, before the good Doctor pointed it out?  Given the angle of the Earth's tilt, when angled away from the sun it appears lower during the day, and the moon correspondingly higher, and so on.  I'm not going to draw you pictures. 

Finally, I assume that you know what "one of the most important scientists who ever worked for Nasa" did there?  His discipline is geology, specialising in desert environments, so he led the committee deciding where the Apollo spacecraft would land, instructed the astronauts on what types of samples to collect, and was responsible for studying the geology of the Moon. 

Doesn't all of that kind of, you know, discredit him as a source? 

Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2025, 11:56:56 AM »
Dr. El-Baz is telling you that it is not a coincidence. The words that he used "the same size". The Moon and the Sun have the same diameter. How are you going to explain to anyone that out of a random set of collisions (which cannot be explained by Nasa anyway) the Moon positioned itself at just the right distance to cover the Sun in perfect symmetry?

You really don't know who Farouk El-Baz was, do you?

The entire sequence of events for the Apollo 11 mission was created by Dr. El-Baz.

“From 1967 to 1972, Dr. El-Baz participated in the Apollo Program as Supervisor of Lunar Science Planning at Bellcomm, Inc., a division of AT&T that conducted systems analysis for NASA Headquarters in Washington, D.C. During these six years, he was Secretary of the Landing Site Selection Committee for the Apollo missions to the Moon, Principal Investigator of Visual Observationsand Photography, and Chairman of the Astronaut Training Group.”

"What all of these titles amount to is that El-Baz was the guy who picked the landing sites, controlled the dissemination and analysis of all the photography, and directly managed and oversaw the astronauts’ geological training, preparing them for what they would actually observe on the lunar surface. In short—he was the most powerful single individual in the American space program."

Convince yourself that indeed the Moon does not cause the solar eclipse: the Allais effect.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg760382#msg760382


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Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2025, 01:47:15 PM »
Remember what I was telling everyone here some three years ago: for a real pandemic you need a huge volcanic eruption

No I don't

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which is exactly what happened on October 12, 1918 (the largest eruption of the century, Katla). It was the dust from comet Halley (1910) which caused the influenza pandemic.
Citation needed. And you seem to have skilled the "correlation does not imply causation" lesson in science class.

For a pandemic you need something airborne, high population density and a global travel network so people can get around quickly and spread it efficiently.
The second and third of those are in place. The reason Ebola has never become a global pandemic is it's missing the first of those things so while it's very serious it's relatively easy to contain. Flu-like things such as Covid, not so much.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

Re: Is Earth rotating faster?
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2025, 02:49:21 PM »
Here's another one: 

"In 1812 a series of very powerful earthquakes realigned the island of California with the north-american continent:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2169555#msg2169555 (seven consecutive messages)". 

Those images are not of California, but Baja California, a current province of Mexico.  It's still a peninsular, not an island.  Did you notice that the maps fade into uncharted territory at the north western extremity?  The land was unexplored, and mapping consequently based upon conjecture.  The city of San Diego at the base of the peninsular, and the asssociated area of California, were being populated by europeans begining in 1769.  Don't you think someone would have noticed an island drifting ashore in 1812? 

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Oh yes, and "The words that he used "the same size". 

No it isn't.  He said "appear the same size". 

I look out my window and my garden appears the same size as the window.  Geddit?  My garden is not the same size as the window.  It appears the same size as my window. 
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