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Re: Trump
« Reply #7340 on: December 03, 2020, 01:37:54 AM »
Barr is "totally Deaf, Dumb and Blind" also a Fat Deep state Demon. Trump should fire him today.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/attorney-general-bill-barr-wins-helen-keller-award/

The Leopard Ate My Face Party putting on a master class right now.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7341 on: December 03, 2020, 03:29:11 AM »
NO PROOF OF FRAUD,,,Really goof balls?

"Investigation of 100-Ballot Sample in Arizona Finds 3% of the Ballots Were Deemed Fraudulent in Favor of Joe Biden – Larger Audit Granted"

Party is over losers...Trump won by a landslide !!!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/investigation-100-ballot-sample-arizona-finds-3-ballots-deemed-fraudulent-favor-joe-biden-larger-audit-granted/
What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7342 on: December 03, 2020, 03:45:33 AM »
A lot of shenanigans going on in PA -

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7343 on: December 03, 2020, 04:01:39 AM »
A lot of shenanigans going on in PA -



You mean people alleging shenanigans. Got it. This was over a week ago and PA certified their slate of electors for Biden.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7344 on: December 03, 2020, 04:29:52 AM »
You mean people alleging shenanigans. Got it. This was over a week ago and PA certified their slate of electors for Biden.

SC can still step in. You guys suggested that there was no evidence. Wrong. Witness testimony is considered to be a strong form of evidence. That's why the Mafia have tried to kill witnesses against them. The Mafia accused can't really say "don't believe them" and expect that to fly like you try to do.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7345 on: December 03, 2020, 04:52:32 AM »
I have to admit it's fun watching Tom grasp at straws like this. I feel like he'll be insisting that Trump is still our president well into Biden's run. He might even still think he's making convincing arguments. There's something fascinating about it.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7346 on: December 03, 2020, 05:07:31 AM »
NO PROOF OF FRAUD,,,Really goof balls?

"Investigation of 100-Ballot Sample in Arizona Finds 3% of the Ballots Were Deemed Fraudulent in Favor of Joe Biden – Larger Audit Granted"

Party is over losers...Trump won by a landslide !!!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/investigation-100-ballot-sample-arizona-finds-3-ballots-deemed-fraudulent-favor-joe-biden-larger-audit-granted/

Did you ever consider that maybe the site you read is fake?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7347 on: December 03, 2020, 06:00:02 AM »
lol @ election fraud denialists

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1333096205375696901

"I conclude with high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states" - Navid Keshavarz-Nia, Ph.D., Computer Security Defence Intelligence Expert, in an affidavit

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7348 on: December 03, 2020, 07:19:56 AM »
lol @ election fraud denialists

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1333096205375696901

"I conclude with high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states" - Navid Keshavarz-Nia, Ph.D., Computer Security Defence Intelligence Expert, in an affidavit

You're joking, right?

A witness in Trump ally Sidney Powell's lawsuits says the voting results in 'Edison County' indicate fraud. No such place exists.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sidney-powell-election-lawsuit-witness-vote-problems-edison-county-2020-12

Key Points from the Article:

- A lawsuit in Michigan pushed by allies of President Donald Trump is seeking to fight what voters decided and declare him the winner of the state's electoral votes.
- To bolster its case, it included an affidavit from Navid Keshavarz-Nia, a cybersecurity expert who alleged that election data indicated widespread fraud. (Extensive research and other experts have refuted such claims.)
- The affidavit said President-elect Joe Biden won "more than 100% of the votes" in a county that doesn't exist.
- Keshavarz-Nia also said he hadn't actually analyzed the voting machines used in the 2020 election.

From Keshavarz-Nia' affidavit:

"In another case for Edison County, MI, Vice President Biden received more than 100% of the votes at 5:59 PM EST on November 4, 2020 and again he received 99.61% of the votes at 2:23 PM EST on November 5, 2020. These distributions are cause for concern and indicate fraud."
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20418343/navid-keshavarz-nia-sidney-powell-michigan-affidavit.pdf

From the article: "There's just one problem: There is no Edison County in Michigan, the Detroit Free Press pointed out.
In fact, there is no Edison County in the entire United States of America."

That's one heck of a witness you have there. Next.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7349 on: December 03, 2020, 08:02:53 AM »
lol @ election fraud denialists

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1333096205375696901

"I conclude with high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states" - Navid Keshavarz-Nia, Ph.D., Computer Security Defence Intelligence Expert, in an affidavit

You're joking, right?

A witness in Trump ally Sidney Powell's lawsuits says the voting results in 'Edison County' indicate fraud. No such place exists.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sidney-powell-election-lawsuit-witness-vote-problems-edison-county-2020-12

Key Points from the Article:

- A lawsuit in Michigan pushed by allies of President Donald Trump is seeking to fight what voters decided and declare him the winner of the state's electoral votes.
- To bolster its case, it included an affidavit from Navid Keshavarz-Nia, a cybersecurity expert who alleged that election data indicated widespread fraud. (Extensive research and other experts have refuted such claims.)
- The affidavit said President-elect Joe Biden won "more than 100% of the votes" in a county that doesn't exist.
- Keshavarz-Nia also said he hadn't actually analyzed the voting machines used in the 2020 election.

From Keshavarz-Nia' affidavit:

"In another case for Edison County, MI, Vice President Biden received more than 100% of the votes at 5:59 PM EST on November 4, 2020 and again he received 99.61% of the votes at 2:23 PM EST on November 5, 2020. These distributions are cause for concern and indicate fraud."
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20418343/navid-keshavarz-nia-sidney-powell-michigan-affidavit.pdf

From the article: "There's just one problem: There is no Edison County in Michigan, the Detroit Free Press pointed out.
In fact, there is no Edison County in the entire United States of America."

That's one heck of a witness you have there. Next.

I like how he claims more than 100% of votes are for Joe Biden.
How does one have 101% of something?

Also its fun to see Tom suddenly claim a random person of authority means he's right after YEARS of discrediting them and stating a title is irrelevant.
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7350 on: December 03, 2020, 08:44:07 AM »
You mean people alleging shenanigans. Got it. This was over a week ago and PA certified their slate of electors for Biden.

SC can still step in. You guys suggested that there was no evidence. Wrong. Witness testimony is considered to be a strong form of evidence. That's why the Mafia have tried to kill witnesses against them. The Mafia accused can't really say "don't believe them" and expect that to fly like you try to do.

What they were arguing is the constitutionality of PA Act 77 that allowed for "no excuse" mail in voting. Your problem is the act was signed by the PA Governor in October 2019. So the GOP has had just over a year to contest it. Do you you really think Alioto/SC is going to all of a sudden now intervene in a State Act that's been in effect for a year and erase millions of votes from the PA election? We're talking millions of votes, poof, gone, invalidated. Just like that, 2.6 million votes to be exact, both Repub & Dem, like they were never cast. If so, give me a hit of whatever you're smokin'.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7351 on: December 03, 2020, 08:45:53 AM »
You guys suggested that there was no evidence. Wrong. Witness testimony is considered to be a strong form of evidence.
*sigh*

Dude, please try and understand this. It really isn't complicated.
Yes, there's evidence. OK? And yes, witness testimony is a form of evidence
But, and this is a point I tried and apparently failed to explain to you before, not all evidence is created equal.
How strong the evidence is depends on how good the witness testimony is

"I saw Tom Bishop shoot and kill Pete" is better than "I heard that Tom Bishop shot and killed Pete".

The first is direct testimony, the second is hearsay.

In public the Trump team are saying there's loads of evidence of widespread fraud.
They're doing it on Twitter, on News channels which will still listen to their ramblings and in press conferences.
They're waving piles of affidavits at the camera.

But time after time when they're in court they're getting nowhere. In many cases they're not even alleging fraud in court because they're under oath. There are no real consequences for lying on Twitter or in press conferences, there are real consequences for lying in court.

This is what a judge had to say about the affidavits



And as others have pointed out, it's interesting that you're suddenly interested in people's credentials when they happen to back up something you believe. When it's a load of scientists and astronauts saying something you don't like, you don't seem to think their credentials are that relevant. Those that do you claim are simply appealing to authority.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7352 on: December 03, 2020, 08:50:53 AM »
lol @ election fraud denialists

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1333096205375696901

"I conclude with high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states" - Navid Keshavarz-Nia, Ph.D., Computer Security Defence Intelligence Expert, in an affidavit

Also also: its a lie.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoAXPwsXEAIB455?format=jpg&name=900x900

1. Why would anyone put, in their manual, that this device can be hacked to change votes?
2. I looked at the manual and that page says nothing about it.  It talks about the various parts of the machine.
https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/VotingSystems/DVS-DemocracySuite511/documentation/2-02-SystemOverview-5-11-CO.pdf

So I'm thinking this Afadaviet is, in fact, a lie.  So someone is gonna go to jail. :)
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7353 on: December 03, 2020, 12:15:47 PM »
Philadelphia didn’t even use Dominion voting systems. In fact if the 14 PA counties that used Dominion, 12 went for Trump. Please continue with the self-owning Trump.

https://whyy.org/articles/pa-counties-reported-no-major-issues-with-dominion-voting-machines-a-target-of-trump-and-his-campaign/

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7354 on: December 03, 2020, 03:33:21 PM »
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-jared-kushner-ppp-loan-coronavirus-b1765356.html

More news about how badly Trump mismanaged the pandemic (and, indeed, shamelessly profited from it).
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7355 on: December 03, 2020, 04:10:18 PM »
"The newspaper cites two unnamed people with knowledge of the discussion."

lol no

says the guy who will believe literally anything anyone posts on twitter so long as they have #maga in their bio. btw how's that october surprise coming? did your twitter friend ever release her TERABYTES of PROOF that obama killed george washington or whatever?

lol @ election fraud denialists

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1333096205375696901

"I conclude with high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states" - Navid Keshavarz-Nia, Ph.D., Computer Security Defence Intelligence Expert, in an affidavit

this is too easy. you've become a parody of yourself.

yet another affidavit by someone who says they performed Very Good And Correct™ analysis that totally proves election fraud but no we can't see their work or the data they used and we have to take their word for it. neato. so, again, you'll believe literally anything anyone says so long as it supports the thing you wanted to be true.

from the affidavit: "I have not been granted access to examine any of the systems used in the 2020 Election." lol.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7356 on: December 03, 2020, 04:19:36 PM »


This is very compelling testimony and not at all drunken rambling.
ur retartet but u donut even no it and i walnut tell u y

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7357 on: December 03, 2020, 06:17:12 PM »
It's an authority giving a statement that there is election fraud in court. It doesn't matter if he hasn't proven it to you personally. Cope. These authorities, as well as eye witness testimony, holds more value than the forced incredulity of a random person on the internet.

Also, the Twitter and Gateway Pundit sources cite their sources, so handwaving those sources isn't really all that valid. Their source isn't generally themselves, like your source is for your objections. They are citing some form of source or authority and are not relying on themselves as source, like you are. If your source is yourself and your own opinion, it's of little value.

In other news, Georgia's federal appeals court sides with Powell, and has granted her an emergency appeal.

Sidney Powell’s Election Lawsuit in Georgia Granted Emergency Appeal by 11th Circuit Appeals Court - https://www.theepochtimes.com/sidney-powells-election-lawsuit-in-georgia-gets-expedited-appeal_3603117.html

"A federal appeals court agreed on Wednesday to expedite the appeal in a case brought by lawyer Sidney Powell against election officials in Georgia.

A judge on Sunday blocked election officials from wiping or altering Dominion Voting Systems machines in three counties, but Powell was seeking a statewide order, prompting her to seek an emergency appeal from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit.

The appeals court on Dec. 2 granted the emergency appeal, ordering plaintiffs to file their initial brief by midnight and defendants to file their response by midnight on Dec. 4. Plaintiffs can file a response to the response by midnight on Dec. 6."
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7358 on: December 03, 2020, 06:20:26 PM »
It's an authority giving an statement that there is election fraud in court. It doesn't matter if he hasn't proven it to you personally.

Cope. These authorities, as well as eye witness testimony, holds more value than the forced incredulity of a random person on the internet.

So in some circumstances you appeal to authority if it suits you and in other circumstances you rail against authority. Like here - Which is it?

The problem is that you are getting your legal analysis from random liberal websites.

This anonymous internet analysis is likely more credible than whatever you are reading:

Also, the Twitter and Gateway Pundit sources cite their sources, so handwaving those sources isn't really all that valid. Their source isn't generally themselves, like your source is for your objections. They are citing some form of source or authority and are not relying on themselves as source, like you are. If your source is yourself and your own opinion, it's trash.

And blather on about "liberal sources" when you cite Gateway Pundit??? And your twitter follows like the Survivor Contestant and the Falconer. Where's the terabytes of treasonous Obama evidence, btw?

Not to mention, your authority said this:

"In another case for Edison County, MI, Vice President Biden received more than 100% of the votes at 5:59 PM EST on November 4, 2020 and again he received 99.61% of the votes at 2:23 PM EST on November 5, 2020. These distributions are cause for concern and indicate fraud."
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20418343/navid-keshavarz-nia-sidney-powell-michigan-affidavit.pdf

Two problems:
1) There is no Edison County in Michigan, nor anywhere in the US.
2) How do you arrive at "more than 100%"?

Some authority you have there.

In other news, Georgia's federal appeals court sides with Powell, and have granted her an emergency appeal.

Sidney Powell’s Election Lawsuit in Georgia Granted Emergency Appeal by 11th Circuit Appeals Court - https://www.theepochtimes.com/sidney-powells-election-lawsuit-in-georgia-gets-expedited-appeal_3603117.html

"A federal appeals court agreed on Wednesday to expedite the appeal in a case brought by lawyer Sidney Powell against election officials in Georgia.

A judge on Sunday blocked election officials from wiping or altering Dominion Voting Systems machines in three counties, but Powell was seeking a statewide order, prompting her to seek an emergency appeal from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit.

The appeals court on Dec. 2 granted the emergency appeal, ordering plaintiffs to file their initial brief by midnight and defendants to file their response by midnight on Dec. 4. Plaintiffs can file a response to the response by midnight on Dec. 6."

Ex-Trump Lawyer Sidney Powell Files Election Suits in ‘DISTRCOICT’ Court

"A lawyer who was dropped from President Donald Trump’s legal team filed typo-strewn lawsuits in Michigan and Georgia alleging massive election fraud.
The Michigan lawsuit, which was on the court website, was frequently marred by formatting problems that removed the spacing between words. For example: “TheTCFCenterwastheonlyfacilitywithinWayneCountyauthorizedtocountthe ballots.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-26/ex-trump-lawyer-files-election-lawsuits-in-distrcoict-court

Can't wait till tomorrow. I'm sure her arguments are going to be buttoned up and airtight.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7359 on: December 03, 2020, 07:02:10 PM »
You're going to have to do more than try to discredit Gateway Pundit by your personal incredulity. In the last link we looked at they cited the Arizona GOP and Congressman Dr. Paul Gosar as their sources:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/investigation-100-ballot-sample-arizona-finds-3-ballots-deemed-fraudulent-favor-joe-biden-larger-audit-granted/



So, there are more sources that you need to discredit.

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Ex-Trump Lawyer Sidney Powell Files Election Suits in ‘DISTRCOICT’ Court

"A lawyer who was dropped from President Donald Trump’s legal team filed typo-strewn lawsuits in Michigan and Georgia alleging massive election fraud.
The Michigan lawsuit, which was on the court website, was frequently marred by formatting problems that removed the spacing between words. For example: “TheTCFCenterwastheonlyfacilitywithinWayneCountyauthorizedtocountthe ballots.”

Lawsuits aren't dismissed for typos or OCR formatting errors. Sounds like coping to me.
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