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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #100 on: September 01, 2020, 03:56:15 AM »

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #101 on: September 01, 2020, 05:39:53 AM »
I wish you would use your own words to form your arguments and stop posting these dumb memes. They're really annoying. And Biden has never been in favor of rioting.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #102 on: September 01, 2020, 06:37:25 AM »
He did take too long to condemn it, and it was because he thought it would be politically advantageous. A drop in the bucket compared to the evil Trump inflicts on the country on a regular basis but it is a reminder that Biden is just another pandering politician at heart.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #103 on: September 01, 2020, 06:40:33 AM »
I wish you would use your own words to form your arguments and stop posting these dumb memes. They're really annoying.
Take this as an opportunity to think about your constant reposting of that one photo of Trump. At least Tom uses multiple images, and keeps them roughly up to date.

And Biden has never been in favor of rioting.
I dunno, he's been pretty happy to talk to BLM'ers, proudly announcing that he would totally, definitely not use them for political gain, and that his support for them is purely based in a heartfelt feeling of racial justice. As BLM's support is now plummeting, Joe will have to make some difficult decisions about who to side with. Or maybe it'll stop plummeting and JB will enjoy a free ride on the subject. We'll see.

In other news, President Record Player is back at it again. This time, COVID has taken this year, just since the outbreak... has taken more than 100 year. Look! Here's— The lives... It's just... you mean, think about it. More lives this year than any other year for the past hundred years!


https://v.omgomg.eu/biden_covid


I kind of hope he wins and lives long enough to make a State of the Union address. It would be delicious.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #104 on: September 01, 2020, 09:19:13 AM »

Transcript:
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-pittsburgh-speech-transcript-august-31


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COVID has taken this year, just since the outbreak, has taken more than 100… Look, the lives, when you think about it, more lives this year than any other year for the past 100 years. More than 180,000 lives in just six months, an average of 1,000 people dying every day in the month of August. Do you really feel safe under Donald Trump?

Yeah, he mispoke.  He got ahead of himself in his speech.
And I'm fairly certain he was referring to deaths in America, not COVID deaths.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #105 on: September 01, 2020, 09:35:15 AM »
He has full blown dementia, and the evil Marxist cowards who could never get elected with their own wicked ideas are pushing a 'moderate' puppet. They don't care how undignified it is.

I don't understand how so much of the country is taken in by the party that is obviously evil. But I guess that's how Hitler came to power.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #106 on: September 01, 2020, 10:04:23 AM »
He has full blown dementia, and the evil Marxist cowards who could never get elected with their own wicked ideas are pushing a 'moderate' puppet. They don't care how undignified it is.

I don't understand how so much of the country is taken in by the party that is obviously evil. But I guess that's how Hitler came to power.

Actually Hitler rose in power by using fear tactics to scapegoat the destruction of parliament on Dutch immigrants (his party did it) to give the Chancelor extra powers, then became Chancelor by blaming all the problems everyone had on minority groups (immigrants, disabled, gylsies, jews,etc..), encouraging violence against them, then promising to 'keep them safe away from us' by loading them on Trains.

He wasn't obviously evil.  Also, you just described Trump.
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« Reply #107 on: September 01, 2020, 01:43:30 PM »
He has full blown dementia, and the evil Marxist cowards who could never get elected with their own wicked ideas are pushing a 'moderate' puppet. They don't care how undignified it is.

I don't understand how so much of the country is taken in by the party that is obviously evil. But I guess that's how Hitler came to power.

Actually Hitler rose in power by using fear tactics to scapegoat the destruction of parliament on Dutch immigrants (his party did it) to give the Chancelor extra powers, then became Chancelor by blaming all the problems everyone had on minority groups (immigrants, disabled, gylsies, jews,etc..), encouraging violence against them, then promising to 'keep them safe away from us' by loading them on Trains.

He wasn't obviously evil.  Also, you just described Trump.

It's crazy how often right-wingers, while trying to paint the Left as evil, end up just describing their own side. Projection seems to be a legitimate political tool in their eyes.
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« Reply #108 on: September 01, 2020, 02:34:48 PM »
The left is evil. The left starts from the premise of theft and all other ideas flourish from there. The left is inherently wicked. Its founding premise is a crime against simple citizens.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #109 on: September 01, 2020, 03:13:11 PM »
The left is evil. The left starts from the premise of theft and all other ideas flourish from there. The left is inherently wicked. Its founding premise is a crime against simple citizens.

TIL taxes are theft.

Hopefully Thork will realize both the left and right tax people.

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #110 on: September 01, 2020, 03:22:39 PM »
The left is evil. The left starts from the premise of theft and all other ideas flourish from there. The left is inherently wicked. Its founding premise is a crime against simple citizens.

I'm not sure you understand what 'left' means.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #111 on: September 01, 2020, 04:06:28 PM »
Because the American public has the attention span of a house fly, they've forgotten all about Marla Maples, Trump Taj Mahal, Trump University and all the other bullshit that is his life. This has nothing to do with left or right media, his public life is decades of scandal and failure.

The trouble is that he throws so much sh*t around, it becomes difficult to keep track of it all. American or not, someone can mention something Trump said or did from merely a few weeks ago, and with all that's happened between, it seems like an eternity ago.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #112 on: September 01, 2020, 07:38:36 PM »
I don't understand how so much of the country is taken in by the party that is obviously evil. But I guess that's how Hitler came to power.

Was it Biden or Trump that said Nazi's were good people?

I can't remember... which side has literal Nazi's marching on the streets to unite the... was it left or right?

And those awful Anti-Facisist liberals... yeah, I'm pretty sure I know which side Hitler would vote for.

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« Reply #113 on: September 01, 2020, 08:06:08 PM »
I'm pretty sure I know which side Hitler would vote for.

Nazi ... national socialist ... he'd vote for Bernie. Bernie also likes shouting and demanding to take money off rich Jews.
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« Reply #114 on: September 01, 2020, 09:10:43 PM »
I'm pretty sure I know which side Hitler would vote for.

Nazi ... national socialist ... he'd vote for Bernie. Bernie also likes shouting and demanding to take money off rich Jews.
You do know that Most Authoritarian governments are Right, politically, yes?  Liberals have democracy, Conservatives have dictators.
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« Reply #115 on: September 01, 2020, 09:59:19 PM »
All these partisan warriors are missing the fact that Trump was a gigantic piece of shit long before he became president. Because the American public has the attention span of a house fly, they've forgotten all about Marla Maples, Trump Taj Mahal, Trump University and all the other bullshit that is his life. This has nothing to do with left or right media, his public life is decades of scandal and failure. But some stupid catch phrases and empty, impossible promises is all it takes for dumbass people whip out their credit cards to order now. This man destroyed his family's fortune, crashed a half dozen companies into the ground while saddling all those small contractors with the cost in bankruptcy filings. American finance institutions won't go near this guy but the ignorant public is buying his ghost-written books on business. His only real success money-wise was stamping his name on cheap imported crap and selling it to dumb rednecks. Then he shot himself in the dick with his "MAGA! Made in America" routine, and destroyed that business too.

This is all true, but arguably The Apprentice was the biggest vehicle for Trump's rehabilitation. I know I've linked this article before, but I want to encourage anyone who hasn't already to read it, especially people who may not realize how heavily scripted the show was, and how deliberately it manufactured the idea that Trump was a great businessman. Before that show, everyone knew that Trump was a joke.

Take this as an opportunity to think about your constant reposting of that one photo of Trump.

That was months ago. I haven't done that since totallackey appropriated it and made it a pro-Trump image. It is now powerless as a symbol in my hands. :(
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« Reply #116 on: September 01, 2020, 10:47:40 PM »
I'm pretty sure I know which side Hitler would vote for.

Nazi ... national socialist ... he'd vote for Bernie. Bernie also likes shouting and demanding to take money off rich Jews.
You do know that Most Authoritarian governments are Right, politically, yes?  Liberals have democracy, Conservatives have dictators.

Demonstrably false.

With the exception of the nazis who were painted as right* (they aren't right wing but we'll look at that in a second), almost all authoritarians are left wing. Of course they are left-wing, it is the left who believe in huge all powerful governments that control every aspect of their citizens lives. Other than nazi Germany who aren't actually right wing, you'll have to google to name another one.


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Both used secret police.
Both sought to control the means of production
Hitler persecuted the Jews, Stalin persecuted the kulaks
Both were happy to kill millions
Both wanted to expand their borders via conquest
Both were dictators

So after WW2 when the allies were deciding to write history they made some important choices.
1) It wasn't the Germans ... it was the Nazis. Germans good, Nazis bad.
2) Nazis are right wing and communists are left wing. They are not to be described as like Russians. They must be the other end of the political spectrum. Couldn't be further apart in ideology ... except for doing all the exact same things, of course. Stalin would not let Nazis be painted as both bad and having similar ideology to Russians. There is no such thing as right and left wing before the late 1930s. It's the same kind of bodge that says Nazis are evil, Germans are good.
What you actually have are authoritarians and libertarians. Authoritarians are dangerous. The Democrats are dangerous. They are the party looking to restrict your freedoms and dominate every aspect of your life with big government. Yet you still want to vote for the evil party. Just like the Germans Nazis.
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« Reply #117 on: September 01, 2020, 11:20:52 PM »
Without Googling, two very obvious examples of right-wing authoritarian regimes are Spain under Franco and Italy under Mussolini. And yes, the Nazis were also right-wing. The word "socialist" being in their full name did not make their actual policies and governance socialist. I don't know what all the talk about how bad Stalin was (he certainly was very bad) or how Germans are good while Nazis are bad has to do with it.
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« Reply #118 on: September 02, 2020, 08:58:44 AM »
The word "socialist" being in their full name did not make their actual policies and governance socialist.
Of course, the name makes no difference. It's their economic and social policy that does. It gets a bit overshadowed by the whole "psychotic genocidal dictatorship that waged war with most of the world" kerfuffle, but there was a lot of left wing sentiment in the kind of support they provided for their working class.

The "fun" part here is that different people use "left" and "right" to mean different things, mostly because the division is so outdated that it can't really apply to anything remotely recent.
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« Reply #119 on: September 09, 2020, 01:38:47 AM »
MSNBC says Joe Biden’s campaign “lacks the dynamism, the energy” of a presidential campaign