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Title: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on March 18, 2015, 07:55:32 AM
jews corrupt and pollute the minds of the young with their satanic filth......

jews/hollywood (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Hellivision/hollywood_jews.htm) ;

Brother Nathanael Kapner......

jews own the 'media' ;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O3eaXCxRUM


jews own/rule America ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsXTP4aK298
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on March 18, 2015, 03:04:55 PM
Mods: A move to Complete Nonsense, peraps?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Blanko on March 18, 2015, 03:06:20 PM
Mods: A move to Complete Nonsense, peraps?

Why?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on March 18, 2015, 03:09:31 PM
Because it's tedious Yaakovian trolling? Albeit in an anti- rather than pro-Jewish stance.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Blanko on March 18, 2015, 03:23:39 PM
Because it's tedious Yaakovian trolling? Albeit in an anti- rather than pro-Jewish stance.

Well, Yaakov's thread is still in PR&S, so...
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost of V on March 18, 2015, 04:48:16 PM
I think you are giving the Jews way too much credit. Overall, they're a very dumb group of people. How would they be able to control the world from the shadows if they can't even protect their own holy land from radical Islamists?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on March 18, 2015, 04:56:24 PM
Because it's tedious Yaakovian trolling? Albeit in an anti- rather than pro-Jewish stance.

Well, Yaakov's thread is still in PR&S, so...

True. Remind me how you 'ignore' people again...
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rushy on March 18, 2015, 07:04:17 PM
At least Yaakov makes attempts to be genuine. This is the most tryhard troll I've seen in years.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Vindictus on March 18, 2015, 09:10:48 PM
I think you are giving the Jews way too much credit. Overall, they're a very dumb group of people. How would they be able to control the world from the shadows if they can't even protect their own holy land from radical Islamists?

I think Israel has proven quite capable in defending themselves from the surrounding arab nations..
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on March 18, 2015, 10:37:35 PM
I think you are giving the Jews way too much credit. Overall, they're a very dumb group of people. How would they be able to control the world from the shadows if they can't even protect their own holy land from radical Islamists?

I think Israel has proven quite capable in defending themselves from the surrounding arab nations..

with $US10billion in aid from the US annually....including the latest and greatest mil-tech'.....why wouldn't they?   ???
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost of V on March 18, 2015, 10:50:37 PM
Just drop it, Vindictus. Don't do this to yourself.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Vindictus on March 18, 2015, 10:53:58 PM
I think you are giving the Jews way too much credit. Overall, they're a very dumb group of people. How would they be able to control the world from the shadows if they can't even protect their own holy land from radical Islamists?

I think Israel has proven quite capable in defending themselves from the surrounding arab nations..

with $US10billion in aid from the US annually....including the latest and greatest mil-tech'.....why wouldn't they?   ???

Israel proved a powerful player in the middle east well before it received any notable US foreign aid. It's not so much the foreign aid that has made them so successful, it's their military's training and capable purpose built equipment, in addition to the inferior military forces of their arab neighbors.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on March 18, 2015, 11:18:23 PM
I think you are giving the Jews way too much credit. Overall, they're a very dumb group of people. How would they be able to control the world from the shadows if they can't even protect their own holy land from radical Islamists?

I think Israel has proven quite capable in defending themselves from the surrounding arab nations..

with $US10billion in aid from the US annually....including the latest and greatest mil-tech'.....why wouldn't they?   ???

Israel proved a powerful player in the middle east well before it received any notable US foreign aid. It's not so much the foreign aid that has made them so successful, it's their military's training and capable purpose built equipment, in addition to the inferior military forces of their arab neighbors.

"before it received any notable US foreign aid"?
well....that's so long ago as to be hardly within living memory;
for instance: they were "bailed out" @ the last minute in 1973/Yom Kippur by massive US aid that was air-lifted in;
the use of Russian-supplied, wire-guided AT missiles by the Egyptians nearly "took them out";

also: they got their derrieres handed to them in 2006 by Hezbollah who were, mainly, just using IEDs and man-portable ATMs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War) ;

the fact of the matter is.....they're only really good @ taking on an "enemy" who they vastly out-gun and out-number and over whom they have massive hi-tech' superiority;

apart from that....their favourite targets are women and kids.....
but....that's been the hall-mark of jews for centuries....they're a bunch of cowardly devils and bullies!  >:(

Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on March 19, 2015, 03:22:10 AM
It looks like Mr. Bickles needs his bottle, and maybe his blankie too. My, you are an upset one. I wonder why. If you are the same St. James that got booted for 90 days at the other site, the reason is obvious, and was stated there, but I'll avoid mentioning it here. From the use of the small blue font, I think you are. Remember what the good Jewish boy did that made you such an angry fellow.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on March 19, 2015, 03:30:12 AM
It looks like Mr. Bickles needs his bottle, and maybe his blankie too. My, you are an upset one. I wonder why. If you are the same St. James that got booted for 90 days at the other site, the reason is obvious, and was stated there, but I'll avoid mentioning it here. From the use of the small blue font, I think you are. Remember what the good Jewish boy did that made you such an angry fellow.
`

i don't associate with jews....so.....i have no idea what you are referring to!  ???
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on March 19, 2015, 03:33:34 AM
Hmmm. Well, I still think you should get your bottle and blankie.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on March 19, 2015, 03:45:42 AM
Hmmm. Well, I still think you should get your bottle and blankie.

and....i still think you people should go back to the shtetl, jew!

it was a colossal mistake letting you out of "the pale of settlement" and into Christian, gentile societies!
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on March 19, 2015, 03:51:27 AM
My, you take this all so emotionally. You're going to cause yourself a heart attack at a young age, friend.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Saddam Hussein on March 19, 2015, 04:25:18 AM
Just drop it, Vindictus. Don't do this to us.

Fix'd for accuracy.  Feeding shitty trolls isn't a victimless crime.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Blanko on March 19, 2015, 11:07:32 AM
My, you take this all so emotionally. You're going to cause yourself a heart attack at a young age, friend.

Are you sure you're fit to talk about emotional responses?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on March 19, 2015, 11:12:06 AM
Now, BLANKO, let's be fair. The last time I was here I would have simply ripped him apart.  This way is far easier. After all, it is true. such blunt emotionalism is going to give him severe medical trouble, or possibly psychiatric difficulties at a young age. He really ought to control those responses. His predilection for irrelevancy and lack of self-control are a very dangerous sign of instability.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on March 19, 2015, 11:44:37 AM
Now, BLANKO, let's be fair. The last time I was here I would have simply ripped him apart.  This way is far easier. After all, it is true. such blunt emotionalism is going to give him severe medical trouble, or possibly psychiatric difficulties at a young age. He really ought to control those responses. His predilection for irrelevancy and lack of self-control are a very dangerous sign of instability.

give your "phylacteries" a rest, rabbi!
i'm in little or no danger of "medical trouble" or "psychiatric difficulties" because i don't believe in nor do i frequent jew doctors or 'shrinks';
in fact, i don't consult any doctors, period!

and....you couldn't "rip me apart" in a month of Sundays!  ::)
in fact: i'd "rip you apart", jew!
i'v been debating you and your ilk for several years now so, unlike most people on this board, i know ALL your facile tricks and dodges......
but...be my guest if your feeling antsy.....
let's start with "the Holocaust"  :o
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on March 19, 2015, 11:50:14 AM
Regardless of whether this goes to Complete Nonsense, it clearly doesn't belong in Arts and Entertainment anymore...
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Blanko on March 19, 2015, 12:24:23 PM
Moved to PR&S.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost of V on March 19, 2015, 07:14:18 PM
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Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: juner on March 19, 2015, 07:28:08 PM
C'mon, Vauxy, not in the upper.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on March 19, 2015, 09:57:50 PM
C'mon, Vauxy, not in the upper.
he's right tho
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 08, 2015, 08:01:34 AM
have a look @ this YouTube.....

(go to abt the 68mnt/1hr 08min mark)

jews and free-masons were resposible for "the Russian Revolution"  >:(
 
this would be your fate under the anti-Christ jews
(if they ever took complete power like they did in post-"revolutionary" Russia)

jews are the Devil incarnate;
jews are the satanic scourge of humanity!
jews LIE like jews and their Father the Devil;
they are filthy liars and filthy murderers....especially of the helpless and the innocent  >:(
(do not be fooled! there are many, many more jews in the world than "the official statistics" reveal.....probably as many jews as Arabs.....there are, in all probability, over 30million jews in the US alone....how can this be?....because jews LIE on official, government census forms  ::) )

ALL the Bolshevik psychopaths were jews....
Christians in Russia were brutally butchered but, strangely, jews were exempt.....
except for the occasional Bolshevik jew gangster that was killed for 'political reasons' by his fellow jew psychopaths!

believe absolutely nothing that jews tell you.....including the liar-in-residence on this Forum!
(just regurgitating what His Master's Voice [viz: the Devil] tells him to!) 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI

Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 08, 2015, 08:21:22 AM
the Holocaust hoax....
watch this YouTube and find out what filthy LIEs jews have peddled to you for the last, several decades through their "ventriloquist's dummies" in the media.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 08, 2015, 08:23:49 AM
the 'Schwitz.....
the biggest jew con job of all time  ???
or....is that the round Earth?
  ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruD4I4f5LkQ
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Blanko on April 08, 2015, 08:27:49 AM
Merged topics because the subjects are pretty much the same.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Fortuna on April 08, 2015, 08:40:22 AM
Shut up.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost of V on April 08, 2015, 08:46:21 AM
Why are the Jews telling all these lies? That seems like a mean thing to do.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Tau on April 08, 2015, 06:12:25 PM
It was funny at first, but now it's just spam
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost of V on April 08, 2015, 06:36:40 PM
It was funny at first

It was never funny.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on April 08, 2015, 09:07:34 PM
I hope Mossad get this idiots number.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rushy on April 08, 2015, 10:32:53 PM
I hope Mossad get this idiots number.

Why is that?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Saddam Hussein on April 08, 2015, 10:59:44 PM
So they can kill have him killed, duh.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rushy on April 09, 2015, 01:54:14 AM
So they can kill have him killed, duh.

So we can prove the Jews are a kind and just people by outright murdering all detractors?  ???
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 09, 2015, 03:42:24 AM
I hope Mossad get this idiots number.

they're welcome to drop by any time...
oh.....BTW....not all Aussies were stoopid enough to hand their guns in .....
so...i hope they're wearing ballistic vests......
they'll need a pretty good one to stop the "incoming" from one of these, though.....   ::)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q197/__jimbo__/fn_fal_baj900_01w.jpg)

(its called an "SLR" or L1A1.....ex-Australian Army issue; clbr: 7.62x51NATO)

but....i'v got even better protection than that....
like Brother Nathanael Kapner (https://www.youtube.com/user/zionget).....i'm protected by angels and by the blood of Jesus Christ.....
oh....and i say the 91st Psalm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUzuhOWcCCI) daily......
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 09, 2015, 03:44:20 AM
So they can kill have him killed, duh.

So we can prove the Jews are a kind and just people by outright murdering all detractors?  ???

like they did in the former USSR....especially when the really vicious jews like Lenin and Trotsky were in control........ :o

its what jews do!   :(
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Vindictus on April 09, 2015, 04:27:53 AM
I hope Mossad get this idiots number.

they're welcome to drop by any time...
oh.....BTW....not all Aussies were stoopid enough to hand their guns in .....
so...i hope they're wearing ballistic vests......
they'll need a pretty good one to stop the "incoming" from one of these, though.....   ::)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q197/__jimbo__/fn_fal_baj900_01w.jpg)

(its called an "SLR" or L1A1.....ex-Australian Army issue; clbr: 7.62x51NATO)

but....i'v got even better protection than that....
like Brother Nathanael Kapner (https://www.youtube.com/user/zionget).....i'm protected by angels and by the blood of Jesus Christ.....
oh....and i say the 91st Psalm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUzuhOWcCCI) daily......


Please don't go shooting up any cafes.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 09, 2015, 04:46:40 AM

Please don't go shooting up any cafes.

what cafes?  ???
oh....now....you must mean that cafe in Sydney CBD, right?
uh.....that was a H_O_A_X ......didn't you know that?

sheesh!
i'm surprised that any-one posting on a Forum like this believes the main-stream media....
(abt any-thing except, maybe, the sport and the weather)
let alone the Australian media.....who have been outed many, many times as the vilest of shills and congenital liars... ::)
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 09, 2015, 04:53:37 AM
"libido dominandi"......."sexual freedom"

how the jews unleashed "the culture wars" on Western societies and used "the sexual revolution" of the 1960s/1970s to destabilise and enslave the gullible goyim!    >:(

from: the redoubtable E Michael Jones....a "traditional" Catholic who, IMHO, should be canonised!   :o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojx8-oNGnMU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42Lwu8E0qm0
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 09, 2015, 04:58:16 AM
unlike other 'races', jews have actively rejected Jesus Christ....
that means that, by default, they are, now, servants of Satan.....
this YouTube goes into some of the back-ground on how jews have destroyed and enslaved peaceful and prosperous Christian, gentile nations....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w5eLDVf4QY
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 09, 2015, 05:02:03 AM
goyim!

you have been "jewed"  :(

the much-vaunted "Zyklon B"....which, we are told, was used to 'gas' millions of jews in the 'Schwitz is, really, nothing more than concentrated 'bug spray'.....
pretty much totally harmless to human beings!

you'd have as much chance of committing "mass murder" with it as you'd have with an "economy sized" can of Pea-Beau™   ;D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJIFOob4tdI
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: markjo on April 09, 2015, 05:33:41 AM
First of all, I wouldn't call hydrogen cyanide "totally harmless".  Secondly, that isn't how the German gas chambers worked.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on April 09, 2015, 07:56:50 AM
I can picture the scene now, old Bickles sitting on his rocker, spittoon by his side, clutching his outdated pop gun, muttering prayers and waiting for the man.

Sometimes I feel pity for our species, a fair bit of it just hasn’t got out of the desert, I think there should be a reservation where we could let’em live in (carefully watched) natural surroundings.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Vindictus on April 09, 2015, 08:19:17 AM

Please don't go shooting up any cafes.

what cafes?  ???
oh....now....you must mean that cafe in Sydney CBD, right?
uh.....that was a H_O_A_X ......didn't you know that?

sheesh!
i'm surprised that any-one posting on a Forum like this believes the main-stream media....
(abt any-thing except, maybe, the sport and the weather)
let alone the Australian media.....who have been outed many, many times as the vilest of shills and congenital liars... ::)


No.. Remember what got the SLR banned? The shooting it was actually used in?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost of V on April 09, 2015, 08:35:37 AM
Everything is a hoax, Vindictus. Didn't you know that?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 09, 2015, 08:41:19 AM
Remember what got the SLR banned? The shooting it was actually used in?

oh.....you must mean this shooting (http://facebook.com/theportarthurmassacrehoax), right?  ::)
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 09, 2015, 08:43:02 AM
I can picture the scene now, old Bickles sitting on his rocker, spittoon by his side, clutching his outdated pop gun, muttering prayers and waiting for the man.


if you say so......
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on April 09, 2015, 09:43:03 AM
You are just not getting enough are you bick' and then Jesus is watching when you touch yourself and your Mum has probably stopped helping you out. It's tough, take xyclon B, harmless to humans apparently but good for guilt.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Blanko on April 09, 2015, 10:12:42 AM
Okay, I've just merged all of these threads together because this shit does not warrant the thread spam. From now on stick to posting in this thread, or I'm sending any and all new threads straight to CN.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rama Set on April 09, 2015, 11:10:20 AM
Okay, I've just merged all of these threads together because this shit does not warrant the thread spam. From now on stick to posting in this thread, or I'm sending any and all new threads straight to CN.

Seems more of an Angry Rant no?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 09, 2015, 12:40:57 PM
their place shall be in the Lake of Fire.....

these 'people' really are satanic SCUM!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yle_qeeOIMA
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 09, 2015, 12:42:46 PM
Okay, I've just merged all of these threads together because this shit does not warrant the thread spam. From now on stick to posting in this thread, or I'm sending any and all new threads straight to CN.

what abt the other 'thread' in this sub-Forum?

"jews corrupt the young"

BTW....why do you 'capitalise' Jews?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Pete Svarrior on April 09, 2015, 12:49:03 PM
what abt the other 'thread' in this sub-Forum?

"jews corrupt the young"

Good catch, thanks!
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 09, 2015, 01:14:16 PM
Okay, I've just merged all of these threads together because this shit does not warrant the thread spam. From now on stick to posting in this thread, or I'm sending any and all new threads straight to CN.

what abt the other 'thread' in this sub-Forum?

"jews corrupt the young"

BTW....why do you 'capitalise' Jews?


Well, primarily because proper nouns are capitalised in English. And Jews recite Psalm 91 daily also, in the Morning Prayer service. And no, the Mossad wouldn't bother with this one. This blathering is a joke, and not even a funny one. And I'll keep in mind that you're covered in the blood of a Jewish Rabbi named Joshua, the Greek name of which is "Jesus". That's entertaining.

And yes, he is still on ignore, but I was at my phone, and read some of what he posted through the WAP2 Interface, and chose to reply to some of it when I got back to my computer.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Hoppy on April 09, 2015, 05:33:35 PM

Please don't go shooting up any cafes.

what cafes?  ???
oh....now....you must mean that cafe in Sydney CBD, right?
uh.....that was a H_O_A_X ......didn't you know that?

sheesh!
i'm surprised that any-one posting on a Forum like this believes the main-stream media....
(abt any-thing except, maybe, the sport and the weather)
let alone the Australian media.....who have been outed many, many times as the vilest of shills and congenital liars... ::)

Bickles, most of the guys on here cannot a media hoax for what it is.I'm with you though on these hoaxes.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 10, 2015, 03:06:17 AM

And Jews recite Psalm 91 daily also, in the Morning Prayer service.

unless yr a believer in Jesus Christ, even the very weakest of believers, Psalm 91 will not work for you, jew!

why?

because Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father!

so...save yr breath, eh?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 10, 2015, 04:01:35 AM
The worshipper of the Jewish Rabbi speaks. What fun! So tell me, O Worshipper of the Jewish Raibbi, how is it that you worship a dead  Jewish Rabbi and yet hate Jews? How does that work in your mind?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 10, 2015, 04:45:01 AM
[.....]how is it that you worship a dead  Jewish Rabbi and yet hate Jews? How does that work in your mind?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDv05fvQ3pE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c76NJwrmoU
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 10, 2015, 04:47:11 AM
Ah, ok. If you can't explain it yourself, it must not be relevant.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 10, 2015, 04:57:49 AM
First of all, I wouldn't call hydrogen cyanide "totally harmless".  Secondly, that isn't how the German gas chambers worked.

Zyklon "b" is harmless;
for its HCN content to be utilised requires a complex and intricate process with lots of auxiliary infrastructure.....
nothing like that was present @ the 'Schwitz....except in very limited and confined areas.....not much bigger than a large ward-robe.......


here's what  a real "gas chamber" looks like.....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q197/__jimbo__/gaschamber.jpg)

get the "picture"  ?  ::)

*edit*
more on Zyklon "B" here (http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndgcger.html)
☞ note ☜
some of the abv material is complex and may require @ least a working knowledge of chemistry
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 10, 2015, 05:28:39 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on April 10, 2015, 01:31:20 PM

Please don't go shooting up any cafes.

what cafes?  ???
oh....now....you must mean that cafe in Sydney CBD, right?
uh.....that was a H_O_A_X ......didn't you know that?

sheesh!
i'm surprised that any-one posting on a Forum like this believes the main-stream media....
(abt any-thing except, maybe, the sport and the weather)
let alone the Australian media.....who have been outed many, many times as the vilest of shills and congenital liars... ::)

Bickles, most of the guys on here cannot a media hoax for what it is.I'm with you though on these hoaxes.

Let me get this straight;
We have a guy with “God is real” as his footer, posting on a site that promotes a flat earth, talking to a holocaust denying freak who blames the Jews for every calamity including the death of someone who was supposedly the son of a god. Who clearly believes that he and said freak can sort what is true from false ahead of all others?

You couldn’t make this shit up, pure gold.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 14, 2015, 03:21:47 AM

Let me get this straight;
We have a guy with “God is real” as his footer, posting on a site that promotes a flat earth, talking to a holocaust denying freak who blames the Jews for every calamity including the death of someone who was supposedly the son of a god. Who clearly believes that he and said freak can sort what is true from false ahead of all others?

You couldn’t make this shit up, pure gold.

OK.....prove "the Holocaust" is true then!
you can start with the Bletchley Park ENIGMA intercepts.....
they're all "de-class'd" now......so.....'link' to some that prove the "H" occurred......


(and stop calling me "names"......i don't want to get into a "slanging match" with you.....but....believe you me!...i can give as good as i get.....enough to get us both perma-banned.....  >:( )
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 14, 2015, 09:56:11 AM
jews promote fag "marriages"...but....not for jews, of course!   >:(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8CtthE1JMs
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 15, 2015, 12:01:34 PM
the twentieth century has, often times, been called "the century of blood";

and.....the lion's share of that blood is on the hands of the jews  >:(

a recent book (2004), The Jewish Century, by a jew, Yuri  Slezkine, tacitly concedes this;

read an in-depth review of Slezkine's book by renowned academic, Prfssr Kevin MacDonald.......

"Stalin's Willing Executioners" (http://www.darkmoon.me/2015/stalins-willing-executioners-jews-hostile-elite-ussr/)
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on April 15, 2015, 09:58:32 PM
I know this is futile as far as bickles is concerned, but it is the 70th anniversary of the liberation of Belsen, see http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bergen-belsen-70th-anniversary-nazi-concentration-camp-liberation-graphic-images-1496549
I don't get how, as has been said before, that if the Jews are so powerful, this happened.
I suppose he will say it's some kind of concealment for the future state of Israel , but it hasn't stopped the world from criticising what they helped happen at Sabra & Shatila, their actions in the west bank and Gaza.
Anyway it's worth having a look just to see what we can do to each other when this sort of drivel is believed.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Vindictus on April 15, 2015, 11:03:07 PM
I know this is futile as far as bickles is concerned, but it is the 70th anniversary of the liberation of Belsen, see http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bergen-belsen-70th-anniversary-nazi-concentration-camp-liberation-graphic-images-1496549
I don't get how, as has been said before, that if the Jews are so powerful, this happened.
I suppose he will say it's some kind of concealment for the future state of Israel , but it hasn't stopped the world from criticising what they helped happen at Sabra & Shatila, their actions in the west bank and Gaza.
Anyway it's worth having a look just to see what we can do to each other when this sort of drivel is believed.

Up until Israel gained some traction, Jews were pretty heavily persecuted in various continents.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 16, 2015, 09:12:14 AM


Up until Israel gained some traction, Jews were pretty heavily persecuted in various continents.

rubbish!
jews were always the persecuters.......never the persecutees;

you know that stoopid little poem?

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak


nah!

they NEVER come for the jews.....
its the jews coming for every-one else.....   >:(
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 16, 2015, 11:21:23 AM


Up until Israel gained some traction, Jews were pretty heavily persecuted in various continents.

rubbish!
jews (sic) were always the persecuters (sic).......never the persecutees (sic);

you know that stoopid (sic) little poem?

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak


nah!

they NEVER come for the jews (sic).....
its the jews (sic) coming for every-one else.....   >:(


So, aside from the fact that you can't spell, perhaps you'd care to tell us two things, to wit:

1. How 0.02% of the world's population (the Jews) can be so brilliant as to control 99.98% of the world's population. Damn, the rest of you non-Jews must be incredibly stupid to allow us that kind of power over you!

2. How is it that 99.98% of the world population (Gentiles) could BE that stupid. I mean, wow, I have met some stupid people in my time, but that one takes the Taco, Man. Perhaps you'd care how to explain that.

Now, Readers, please understand, I don't really believe that non-Jews ARE stupid. i just like tweak this one's nose a little. it's fun. I think it can be interesting to make him jump for answers.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 16, 2015, 11:40:18 AM

So, aside from the fact that you can't spell, perhaps you'd care to tell us two things, to wit:

1. How 0.02% of the world's population (the Jews) can be so brilliant as to control 99.98% of the world's population. Damn, the rest of you non-Jews must be incredibly stupid to allow us that kind of power over you!

2. How is it that 99.98% of the world population (Gentiles) could BE that stupid. I mean, wow, I have met some stupid people in my time, but that one takes the Taco, Man. Perhaps you'd care how to explain that.

Now, Readers, please understand, I don't really believe that non-Jews ARE stupid. i just like tweak this one's nose a little. it's fun. I think it can be interesting to make him jump for answers.

who says jews are "0.02%" of the world's population?

a bunch of jews?

there are prblby up to 30million jews in the US alone!
(who knows how many else-where?.....maybe up to 150million or more)

and, of course, no-one with an ounce of common sense would deny that jews control the banks, the media and most Western governments.....

so...like all jews, you lie.....you damn, lying jew!  >:(

you're every-thing that's wrong with this world, jew!

you're a stinking, reprobate jew devil!....for-ever putting obstacles in the path of the Gospel of Jesus Christ...for-ever making crooked the straight paths of the Lord!

you're not a race, you're not a religion.....you're an anti-race and an anti-religion!

a son of the Devil!

and....you're going to the same place as the Devil, your Father......a big, fiery swimming pool called the Lake of Fire.....

methinks yr not much longer for this world, jew!

now.....go complain to yr terrorist org'......the ADL...
(oh...BTW...."readers"...i hope you all know that the ADL was formed in order to try and exonerate a vile jew devil who raped and murdered a young girl a hundred or so years ago  >:( ..........its what jews do.....there's lots and lots of jews in HELL for murdering Christian children)



jews degrade every aspect of culture (http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/12/merry-christmas-movies-not-part-2-—-anti-christmas-movies/)
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on April 16, 2015, 11:43:29 AM
Jesus was a Jew. Why don't you hate Jesus?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Pete Svarrior on April 16, 2015, 12:36:14 PM

so...like all jews, you lie.....you damn, lying jew!  >:(

you're every-thing that's wrong with this world, jew!

you're a stinking, reprobate jew devil!....for-ever putting obstacles in the path of the Gospel of Jesus Christ...for-ever making crooked the straight paths of the Lord!

you're not a race, you're not a religion.....you're an anti-race and an anti-religion!

a son of the Devil!

and....you're going to the same place as the Devil, your Father......a big, fiery swimming pool called the Lake of Fire.....

methinks yr not much longer for this world, jew!

That's quite enough. You've already received two warnings for personal insults in the upper fora, so it's time for you to take a short break from this site.

Once you're back, if you still cannot address others without resorting to personal insults, please refrain from addressing them at all in the upper boards. Go to CN or AR.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 16, 2015, 12:43:34 PM
Thank you, PIZAA. For once, someone gets banned for insulting me, and its not me for losing my temper and doing something equally stupid.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Tau on April 16, 2015, 05:48:27 PM
Thank you, PIZAA. For once, someone gets banned for insulting me, and its not me for losing my temper and doing something equally stupid.

You have a serious persecution complex
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 16, 2015, 05:57:13 PM
*GRIN* Not at all. Usually, when I am insulted, I insult back, and end up getting banned. This time, I used my head and kept my temper. For me, that is unusual as Hell.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rushy on April 16, 2015, 05:58:38 PM
*GRIN* Not at all. Usually, when I am insulted, I insult back, and end up getting banned. This time, I used my head and kept my temper. For me, that is unusual as Hell.

You have more often than not perceived things as insults when they were not. A great deal of instances with you claiming "when I am insulted, I insult back" were really just the latter part without the former.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 16, 2015, 06:07:08 PM
*GRIN* Not at all. Usually, when I am insulted, I insult back, and end up getting banned. This time, I used my head and kept my temper. For me, that is unusual as Hell.

You have more often than not perceived things as insults when they were not. A great deal of instances with you claiming "when I am insulted, I insult back" were really just the latter part without the former.

In some cases, I'll grant the truth of that. In others, though, I shan't. In either case, though, my point is made.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 16, 2015, 08:53:10 PM
Incidentally, Mr. Bickles is wrong. There are not 30 million Jews in the US or in the world. There are slightly over 15 million Jews in the world, of whom about 5.5 million reside in the in the US, another 5 million in Israel, and about 2 million in Russia, with the remainder spread throughout the world.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 16, 2015, 09:25:06 PM
And the Leo Frank affair, wherein a Jewish man was indeed lynched after being accused of raping and killing a 13-year-old Gentile girl, was a situation in which the Governor of Georgia (a non-Jew) had commuted his death sentence to life imprisonment after determining that guilt had not been proven to the Governor's own satisfaction. While we will never know whether Frank was guilty or not, certainly lynching was not the appropriate method of punishment, any more than it would be with a non-Jew. And it makes me wonder how Mr. Bickles would handle all of the court cases involving rapes and murders of Gentile girls by Gentile men. Should they be lynched too? Or Jewish girls by Gentile men? What about then?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rama Set on April 17, 2015, 12:10:52 AM
Incidentally, Mr. Bickles is wrong. There are not 30 million Jews in the US or in the world. There are slightly over 15 million Jews in the world, of whom about 5.5 million reside in the in the US, another 5 million in Israel, and about 2 million in Russia, with the remainder spread throughout the world.

There are another 500,000 in Canada.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 17, 2015, 01:40:17 AM
Incidentally, Mr. Bickles is wrong. There are not 30 million Jews in the US or in the world. There are slightly over 15 million Jews in the world, of whom about 5.5 million reside in the in the US, another 5 million in Israel, and about 2 million in Russia, with the remainder spread throughout the world.

There are another 500,000 in Canada.

And about 250,000 in Australia, and another 250,000 or slightly more in the UK.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 20, 2015, 05:52:05 AM
the jew's claim(s) vis á vis jew demographics is disingenuous to say the least  ::)

apropos the US....the census forms do not class "jew" as a race but a religion so a jew can put down any old thing....from atheist to zoroastrian  ::)

just considering the nºs of these ultra-Orthodox jews and the huge nº of children they have (up to a dozen usually) and considering that has been the case now for decades and that they do not even complete census forms or, even, attend regular public schools or, indeed, have any significant interaction with the US government or non-ultra-Orthodox society should ring alarm bells that the US demographics on jews are wildly inaccurate and grossly under-stated!

(the figures for Australia i agree with because the Australian Census is regarded as very reliable and accurate)


(the stuff on the jew child rapist and murderer Leo Frank and the ADL i will not comment on further because any-one who's interested can look it up on-line.....just !Google! )
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 20, 2015, 09:35:32 AM
jews reject Jesus Christ;
actively embrace anti-christ!  >:(

"jews for judaism" rabbi a proven, congenital liar with spirit of anti-christ!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgmAHyYSg68
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 20, 2015, 09:40:18 AM
crypto-jew Hilary Clinton actively promotes fag agenda and defecates on middle-class, white Christian families  >:(
(all @ behest of her jew handlers, of course  ::) )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPp9UOMP1rw

Almighty God help the USA if this sodomitical, gun-grabbing, she-devil feminist is ever "elected" to office!
(and i put elected in "" because, since the US started using Diebold voting machines instead of actual, physical ballot papers, the electoral results are about as "kosher" as a $3 bill  :( )
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 20, 2015, 09:51:35 AM
jews to unleash chekist-style Red Terror on the US!  :o

American patriots!

get your guns!
get more guns!
then.....get even more guns!  :o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCvGZzsXRZU

re: "chekist".....see next 'post'
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 20, 2015, 09:53:11 AM
the jew's (sic) claim(s) vis á vis jew (sic) demographics is disingenuous to say the least  ::)

apropos the US....the census forms do not class "jew" as a race but a religion so a jew (sic) can put down any old thing....from atheist to zoroastrian (sic) ::)

just considering the nºs of these ultra-Orthodox jews (sic)and the huge nº of children they have (up to a dozen usually) and considering that has been the case now for decades and that they do not even complete census forms or, even, attend regular public schools or, indeed, have any significant interaction with the US government or non-ultra-Orthodox society should ring alarm bells that the US demographics on jews (sic) are wildly inaccurate and grossly under-stated!

(the figures for Australia i (sic) agree with because the Australian Census is regarded as very reliable and accurate)


(the stuff on the jew (sic) child rapist and murderer Leo Frank and the ADL i will not comment on further because any-one who's interested can look it up on-line.....just !Google! )

Your orthographic errors are astounding, BTW. And a person who declares himself to belong to a different religion is deemed by the Jewish community to no longer be a Jew. A person who simply ceases to practice Judaism, but does NOT take up another religion, is usually deemed to be a bad Jew. Estimates for the number of Jews in the United States take into account the possible undercounting of Jews based on some of what you mentioned. I was reading statistics today, composed by Gentiles, that there may be as many as 6.8 million Jews in the USA, or as few as 5 million. If you take a maximum figure of 6.8 million, then you have a total core population of 16 million Jews in the world as estimated by those born to a Jewish mother or converted to the Jewish Faith and People. If you include those eligible to under the Law of Return to obtain Israeli citizenship based on having one Jewish grandparent (which was Hitler's definition of a Jew, and therefore is used by the State of Israel in order to protect as many people as possible from anti-Semitic persons in power or governments in general), you come up to a total of 21.1 million Jews and Jewish-related persons in the world.  Even THAT inflated number is still a far cry from the so-called 30 million that you estimated the USA had.

Actually, I checked the Australian figures today. There are 112,000 Jews in the core population of Jews in the country. Again, as a reminder, Core Population is defined as persons born to a Jewish mother or converted to the Jewish Faith and People. It does not include those born to a Jewish father or those with other Jewish relatives or other connections to Jews and/or Judaism.

As a reminder, if a Jew were to convert to say, Zoroastrianism (or any other religion), he would no longer be eligible for the Law of Return and would no longer be considered a Jew by any of the streams of Judaism or the State of Israel. So in America, if a Jew turned Zoroastrian marks on the census that he is a Zoroastrian and not a Jew, he is indeed telling the truth.

Because being a Jew is not a racial thing and never has been (there are Jews who are of the lightest white like myself, to the darkest black, like the Jews of Ethiopia, who have been Jews for 3,000 years), it is silly to call us such. Calling us a race is to utterly neglect the Sephardic Jews, the Jews of India, the Jews of Kaifeng in China, the Yemeni Jews, and Jews from just about everywhere else. In other words, it is totally asinine. Jews literally come in every colour of the rainbow, and they were born that way, and not converted in recent times. The Jews of Kaifeng were Jews from about 2000 years back or more. And they are perhaps the most recent. "Ashkenaz" literally means "Germany" in Hebrew, although of course, they are spread from France to Russia. But using Germany as an example, the community of Cologne has a continuous history there, having migrated there from the Levant, dating back to the end of the Roman Imperial period, shortly after that city was built.

It IS true that we are an ethnic group. In fact, it is best to call us an ethno-religious group. Like Latinos, we come from all the races. You can find Latinos who fit every racial description. Likewise, you can find Jews of every racial description. It just so happens that Jews tend to belong to only one religious tradition, which is the one known as "Judaism". Although other religions share elements of our Faith (Christianity in particular, which is basically a form of Judaism heavily influenced by European Paganism), Judaism itself is unique to the Jew, so much so that when a person adopts the practice of that Faith he is considered to have become a member of the people as well, by both the People (ie, other Jews), and by non-Jews in the surrounding community.

So, that should solve at least some of these issues. Mister Bickles, and those like him (anti-Semites) tend to feed off ignorance in the non-Jewish community to spread misinformation and falsehood. Therefore, it is incumbent upon those of us who know better to inform people otherwise.

Incidentally, the Khazar myth is exactly that, a myth. Khazaria was a region in the Southwest of Russia. The people were mostly Christian, Muslim, and followers of Tengri, the Mongol Blue Sky God. The Royalty of that nation, most of them, but not all, chose to follow Judaism, partly from conviction, but partly, perhaps mostly, from diplomatic convenience, insofar as they would not appear to be favouring one third of their population over another third by following Christianity, Islam, or Tengriism.

The nation existed in strength for about 400 years from 650 CE to 1050 CE before falling apart due to external pressures (mostly the Kievan Rus, the Mongol, Byzantines, and the Muslims), and internal frictions. Its constituent parts were absorbed by the various power centers in the region. See above. It was the Kievan Rus that ultimately destroyed the Khazar State.

The idea that Ashkenazi Jews are somehow descended from Khazars was proposed in the late 1800s, but is now rejected by nearly all serious scholars of Jews and Judaism, but Jewish and non-Jewish alike. It is considered today to be a fringe theory, held only by kook anti-Semitic types.

And that brings us to the word "anti-Semite". The word was in fact invented by Germans in the 1800s, who despised Jews, and wanted to give their hatred a scientific sounding name. Its use was popularised in 1879 by appearing in one of the Jew-hating books of the period. Although it is clearly not an accurate term as such (since there are clearly more Semites in the world than just Jews), it has the misfortune of being one of those terms in English that simply won't go away, much like "near miss" (which when you think of it, sounds like you actually hit something), or "being on a non-stop flight" (I want my plane to stop at the destination, thank you).

Well, now that I have gone on for about a decade and a half, I shall see what comes up next on this wonderful little page, and what flaming amounts of illogic (and orthographic errors) Mister Bickles is capable of next.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 20, 2015, 09:55:03 AM
the Chekist.....jew terror in the raw!

Americans!
this is coming to a neighbourhood near you....soon!
stock-pile guns;
stock-pile ammo';
stock-pile food;
stock-pile fuel;
stock-pile water;
stock-pile med' kits and drugs;
have emergency power generation equipment;
RESIST!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RQVSHfuPCQ
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 20, 2015, 10:02:01 AM
the jew's rant is a pack of lies from start-to-finish;

no-one can even 'guesstimate' a 'ballpark figure' as to how many of these Ultra Orthodox jews there are in the US....there could well be over six million of them alone!

and....there are atheist jews who are eligible to 'return' to the Talmudic gangster statelet of Isn'tReal;

if yr mother wasn't jewish, then you're not accepted as being a jew.....at least, not by any jew 'authorities' that matter!

oh...BTW....let's invent a term to describe the absolutely rabid hatred of jews for non-jews....especially European, Christian-type people.....

how about....."loxism"   ::)

i agree on this though.....'jew' isn't a race;
neither is it a religion;
rather: it is a cabal of international, psychopathic gangsters!  >:(
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 20, 2015, 10:08:13 AM
the (sic) jew's (sic) rant is a pack of lies from start-to-finish;

no-one (sic) can even 'guesstimate' a 'ballpark figure' as to how many of these Ultra Orthodox jews (sic) there are in the US....there could well be over six million of them alone!

and (sic)....there are atheist jews (sic) who are eligible to 'return' to the Talmudic gangster statelet of Isn'tReal (sic);

if (sic) yr (sic) mother wasn't jewish, (sic) then you're not accepted as being a jew (sic).....at least, not by any jew (sic) 'authorities' that matter!

oh (sic)...BTW....let's invent a term to describe the absolutely rabid hatred of jews (sic) for non-jews (sic)....especially European, Christian-type people.....

how about....."loxism"(sic)   ::)

i (sic) agree on this though.....'jew'(sic) isn't a race;
neither is it a religion;
rather: it is a cabal of international, psychopathic gangsters!  >:(


Aww, Mister Bickles, is that the best you can do? You need a nap. And your orthographic errors continue to astound, by the way, as does your complete lack of knowledge of Jewish Law, which you should at least know before you spout your mouth. You clearly are completely unaware of the Law of Return of the State of Israel, which upholds slightly different, and more liberal, standards than the question of who a Jew is, which is anybody born of a Jewish mother or who converted to Judaism and the Jewish People, of whom I know several. And yes, no one disputed that atheist Jews are permitted to return under the Law of Return to the State of Israel. A Jew who takes up another religion is considered to no longer be a Jew, but a Jew who no longer practices Judaism, without taking up another religion, is simply regarded as a a bad Jew. I think I said that in my first post, but then, you must have been too tired to notice. I shall excuse it on account of you needing said nap. And between capitalisation errors and spelling errors, your orthographic errors are up to 18. And those are only the ones I could count. I don't know how many I might have missed. But keep it coming, my man. Your astounding display of illogic amuses me.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on April 20, 2015, 10:09:13 AM
I don't know who is trolling who anymore. it's like the billy goats are crossing a Mobius Strip bridge...
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rama Set on April 20, 2015, 01:44:37 PM
All I know if Brother Nathanael is hilarious.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 20, 2015, 02:37:24 PM
All I know if Brother Nathanael is hilarious.

What little I watched of him, he was an idiot, so I haven't bothered to watch more.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rama Set on April 20, 2015, 02:54:13 PM
All I know if Brother Nathanael is hilarious.

What little I watched of him, he was an idiot, so I haven't bothered to watch more.

He is like a used car salesman, but instead of selling cars he sells anti-semitism.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 20, 2015, 03:36:11 PM
All I know if Brother Nathanael is hilarious.

What little I watched of him, he was an idiot, so I haven't bothered to watch more.

He is like a used car salesman, but instead of selling cars he sells anti-semitism.

Yeah, pretty much. A schmuck, more or less.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 20, 2015, 04:17:41 PM
And I would of course LOVE to know how Hillary Clinton suddenly became a "crypto-Jew". Last I checked, she was a Methodist, I do believe. As much as I dislike Hillary, I have found that not only is she NOT a Jew or anything close to it, she is also wishy-washy on the State of Israel. She actually tends to justify Muslim terrorism by saying that we "should understand the anger of our enemy that would lead him to do such things". That is a close paraphrase of something she actually actually said. And her immediate aide de camp, if you will, is Huma Abedin, a Pakistani Muslim, who admittedly, is married to a Jew, Anthony Wiener, but the fact that he married a Muslim automatically means that he is not a good Jew, nor is she a good Muslim woman since she married outside her Faith.

This is not to say that I object to interfaith marriages as such. I am married to a Lutheran myself. But the idea of a Jew married to a Muslim about turns my stomach for obvious reasons, as it should any sensible person, given the problems existing right now in the world.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on April 20, 2015, 04:22:24 PM
Surely encouraging more people to look past the lines that divide them and love one another is only going to improve situations for Jews and Muslims alike?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 20, 2015, 04:29:47 PM
Surely encouraging more people to look past the lines that divide them and love one another is only going to improve situations for Jews and Muslims alike?

Personally, I choose to disagree with you. I consider Islam to be outright dangerous. I would never contemplate marriage to a Muslim. In fact, I would normally, like any Jew, have planned on marrying another Jew. But I fell in love with the most capital woman on the planet, who is, incidentally, a Gentile. Sometimes, events take one by surprise.

But marriage to a Muslim of any variety, Arab or otherwise, is unthinkable for any religious Jew. It is the policy of the Muslim Faith to convert non-Muslims or to force them to live as second-class citizens and pay the Jizyah tax. No Jew should marry into that kind of a mindset. They should be left alone to live with their own kind.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rushy on April 20, 2015, 04:32:51 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rama Set on April 20, 2015, 08:08:25 PM
Surely encouraging more people to look past the lines that divide them and love one another is only going to improve situations for Jews and Muslims alike?

Personally, I choose to disagree with you. I consider Islam to be outright dangerous. I would never contemplate marriage to a Muslim. In fact, I would normally, like any Jew, have planned on marrying another Jew. But I fell in love with the most capital woman on the planet, who is, incidentally, a Gentile. Sometimes, events take one by surprise.

But marriage to a Muslim of any variety, Arab or otherwise, is unthinkable for any religious Jew. It is the policy of the Muslim Faith to convert non-Muslims or to force them to live as second-class citizens and pay the Jizyah tax. No Jew should marry into that kind of a mindset. They should be left alone to live with their own kind.

You do understand that there is a whole spectrum of adherence in the muslim faith right?  And that there are 1.6B Muslims?  And that they are mostly not extremists?  I am sure there is a muslim out there for you somewhere.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 20, 2015, 08:20:34 PM
Surely encouraging more people to look past the lines that divide them and love one another is only going to improve situations for Jews and Muslims alike?

Personally, I choose to disagree with you. I consider Islam to be outright dangerous. I would never contemplate marriage to a Muslim. In fact, I would normally, like any Jew, have planned on marrying another Jew. But I fell in love with the most capital woman on the planet, who is, incidentally, a Gentile. Sometimes, events take one by surprise.

But marriage to a Muslim of any variety, Arab or otherwise, is unthinkable for any religious Jew. It is the policy of the Muslim Faith to convert non-Muslims or to force them to live as second-class citizens and pay the Jizyah tax. No Jew should marry into that kind of a mindset. They should be left alone to live with their own kind.

You do understand that there is a whole spectrum of adherence in the muslim faith right?  And that there are 1.6B Muslims?  And that they are mostly not extremists?  I am sure there is a muslim out there for you somewhere.

I am well aware of that. But reading the Qur'an, as I have done three times, and the Sunnah of the Prophet, the minimum level of observance calls for two choices for three choices for non-Muslims in a land ruled by them: conversion, second-class status, or death. I dated a Muslima many years ago, and studied Islam quite thoroughly. I hardly need educated into the ins and outs of said belief structure. Anywhere that they are in power is a threat to anyone else.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rushy on April 20, 2015, 08:30:46 PM
Not all Muslims take the Quran literally. A lot of them, yes, but not all. We would be equally screwed if Christians or Jews took the Bible literally.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 20, 2015, 08:33:23 PM
Not all Muslims take the Quran literally. A lot of them, yes, but not all. We would be equally screwed if Christians or Jews took the Bible literally.

The problem is, MOST Muslims do. Especially countries that are ruled by them. Try being a Christian anywhere in the Middle East. Egypt, for example, which is 10% Coptic Christian, the largest single Christian minority nation in the Muslim world.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rama Set on April 20, 2015, 10:44:38 PM
Not all Muslims take the Quran literally. A lot of them, yes, but not all. We would be equally screwed if Christians or Jews took the Bible literally.

The problem is, MOST Muslims do. Especially countries that are ruled by them. Try being a Christian anywhere in the Middle East. Egypt, for example, which is 10% Coptic Christian, the largest single Christian minority nation in the Muslim world.
Citation required.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 20, 2015, 11:59:43 PM
Not all Muslims take the Quran literally. A lot of them, yes, but not all. We would be equally screwed if Christians or Jews took the Bible literally.

The problem is, MOST Muslims do. Especially countries that are ruled by them. Try being a Christian anywhere in the Middle East. Egypt, for example, which is 10% Coptic Christian, the largest single Christian minority nation in the Muslim world.
Citation required.

None required. Try talking to a few. And observe the laws of Egypt, which state clearly that Sharia is the basis for law in Egypt. That in and of itself indicates that mistreatment is the order of the day. In fact, every single Copt I have ever spoken to has indicated that  they are happy as all hell to be out of Egypt, since it is not at all uncommon for Christian girls to be kidnapped and forcibly converted to Islam, and then married against their will to their kidnappers. If the family attempts to do anything about it, the father has been known to be crucified to his house door as an example to others. Also observe that they treat Jews so well that there are only 500 of us left there at present, and we are wise enough to keep a very low profile.

Of course, at least in Egypt it is legal to be Christian. In Saudi Arabia it is not, if you are a citizen of the Kingdom. In fact, being anything other than a Muslim will get you the death penalty. Foreigners are allowed to be other than Muslim, but their churches are not allowed to be visible to the citizens. No Jew is EVER permitted to enter the Kingdom for any reason whatsoever unless he is part of the American military forces protecting said Kingdom. And if your passport contains a stamp from Israel in it, even if you are not a Jew, you are denied entry to the Kingdom unless you are part of the American military force protecting the Kingdom.

Granted, Saudi Arabia is a shithole bar none, aside perhaps from North Korea. And yet we protect it for the sake of its oil. What we ought to do is invade the shithole and conquer it and make it a colonial possession, and if they give us any shit, we ought to turn it into Swiss Cheese. They brutalise one-half the population (ie, females, who are not even allowed to drive by law, cannot get bank accounts without the permission of a mahram [the husband or nearest male relative], their testimony is worth only half that of a man's in court [it takes four women vs two men for valid testimony], along with a host of other bullshit restrictions), aside from not permitting voting that means a damn thing (they do have a Shura, an advisory council to the King which is elected, but that is all it is, is advisory), their King is an Absolute Autocrat Monarch, shall I go on? Oh, by the way, women just this year got permission to vote for the Shura. How magnanimous.

And yet we support these assholes. And of course, the so-called Human Rights Council in the UN, which is made up of such luminaries as Sudan and Iran, spends time criticising the only democracy in the Middle East, Israel, for the way it treats "Palestinians", who are hell-bent on destroying the place. Perhaps if the assholes stopped throwing rockets all over G-d's creation it wouldn't be necessary to militarily occupy "Palestine", not that such a region actually exists on any real map that I've ever seen.

Show me a historical map with a political entity called "Palestine" on it. What kind of government did it have? What currency did it use? Who were its leaders, even one of them, before Arafat the Arch-Terrorist? The fact is, no independent "Palestine" ever existed, nor did a nationality known as "Palestinian". They were all Egyptians and Jordanians before 1976, when both those governments gave up any and all claims to the territories in question (the Gaza Strip and the West Bank respectively). Ergo, the people are stateless. Israel provides them with electricity, which they are unable to pay for. In fact, they owe the Israeli State owned electricity company about 5 billion shekels at this point. They also provide water which "Palestine" can't pay for. A so-called "independent state" that can't even provide services to its "citizens". What a joke, and not even a funny one. Hell, Israel wouldn't even need to attack them. Just withhold water and electricity, and starve them out, and solve the problem that way. But that would be a brutally slow way of doing it. Of course, eventually, they would have to come to terms. Its called "siege", last time I checked. It tends to work pretty well.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rama Set on April 21, 2015, 04:04:42 AM


The problem is, MOST Muslims do.

Try talking to a few.

Please reconcile these two statements.  It appears there is some sort of incredible statistical analysis taking place to get from talking to 2 or 3 people to the views of over 800 million muslims.


<Extremely long and irrelevant rant>

So you think that because a government has a law, everyone in that country believes it is just?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 21, 2015, 04:34:00 AM
Egypt has had several chances lately to change their laws, what with the "revolutions", and has chosen not to. And try more like 10 or 12, rather than 2 or 3, and we are speaking of Copts in Egypt, not Christians elsewhere in the Muslim world, although any perusal of the daily world news will make clear that the situation is dire for Christians pretty much everywhere in the Muslim world, just as it is for Jews.

And my comments on the KSA were relevant. You simply had no adequate response to them. The remarks make it clear that Islam is dangerous to the civilised world wherever it holds sway, as it does in the KSA. It must be prevented from spreading further.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rama Set on April 21, 2015, 04:45:19 AM
Egypt has had several chances lately to change their laws, what with the "revolutions", and has chosen not to. And try more like 10 or 12, rather than 2 or 3, and we are speaking of Copts in Egypt, not Christians elsewhere in the Muslim world, although any perusal of the daily world news will make clear that the situation is dire for Christians pretty much everywhere in the Muslim world, just as it is for Jews.

And my comments on the KSA were relevant. You simply had no adequate response to them. The remarks make it clear that Islam is dangerous to the civilised world wherever it holds sway, as it does in the KSA. It must be prevented from spreading further.
Maybe but you are still full of it when you say, "The problem is, MOST Muslims do."  Good try though.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on April 21, 2015, 10:22:29 AM
what does it mean to be "jewish" ?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Bm07kPbdw

(a "religion" based on a disclaimer is a gutter religion  >:(  )
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 21, 2015, 10:46:07 AM
Egypt has had several chances lately to change their laws, what with the "revolutions", and has chosen not to. And try more like 10 or 12, rather than 2 or 3, and we are speaking of Copts in Egypt, not Christians elsewhere in the Muslim world, although any perusal of the daily world news will make clear that the situation is dire for Christians pretty much everywhere in the Muslim world, just as it is for Jews.

And my comments on the KSA were relevant. You simply had no adequate response to them. The remarks make it clear that Islam is dangerous to the civilised world wherever it holds sway, as it does in the KSA. It must be prevented from spreading further.
Maybe but you are still full of it when you say, "The problem is, MOST Muslims do."  Good try though.

Actually, I am not full of it at all. You just have no adequate response. And my good buddy Mister Bickles is back! What fun!
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 21, 2015, 11:09:47 AM
what does it mean to be "jewish" (sic) ?

(a "religion" based on a disclaimer is a gutter religion  >:(  )

Well, there's an orthographic error in what little you wrote for one. And for two, I actually bothered to listen to the batshit crazy monk, and he is that, quite literally batshit crazy. Jesus couldn't have been the Messiah simply because he didn't do what the Messiah is expected to do, not that we had anything to do with his death, which was a Roman issue. In fact, the "New Testament", which I have read twice, and probably know more about than Bickles does, is so far off accurate it becomes laughable.

1. Jesus is arrested at night, and taken before a partial Sanhedrin of about 15 people.

Problem A. The Sanhedrin never met at night.
Problem B. They never met in a a quorum of less than 71.

2. He is found guilty and sentenced to death and turned over to the Romans.

Problem C. The Jews had the power to execute by stoning for violation of their own Law. Although they needed permission of the Roman Governor, this was rarely if ever denied. Why give Jesus to the Romans when he could have been executed by them? It would have been a lot faster and easier, and far less obvious, to do it themselves.

3. They wait until the next day to execute him.

Problem D. Why? The Jews could have stoned him at pretty much any time. It would have been simpler.

Now let's look at events in the life of Jesus, starting with the Cleansing of the Temple. The Temple was guarded by a cordon of Roman soldiers at all times, which was doubled or even tripled during holidays. If Jesus had tried to go in there with a whip and overturn tables and whip people, the fact is, he would have been turned into Swiss Cheese by an ever vigilant guard.

And that is just for starters. I could go on, but I think my point is made for the moment...

But, lets look at the fact that Jesus did not re-institute the Davidic Kingdom of Israel.

He did not bring about world peace.

He did not rebuild the Temple.

Those are just three things that the Messiah is supposed to do that Jesus did not do. Ergo, Jesus may be many things, a brilliant Rabbi, a mensch (Yiddish for "all around good guy"), a learned fellow, but he wasn't the Messiah. Nor does he ever make a blatant statement indicating such in the "New Testament". Nor does he ever claim to be G-d.

On another aspect of what the batshit crazy monk said, I saw a picture of two homosexuals kissing. Now, I find that as distasteful as Bickles does, although I don't personally give a shit what two consenting adults do in their bedroom. I mean, personally, I find it immoral, but it is not my business to tell other people how to live their moral lives. Moving onward, though, THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE MEN IN THE PICTURE WERE JEWS. In fact, I have met TWO Jews in my life that were homosexuals. One was male, and one was female. EVERY OTHER HOMOSEXUAL I HAVE EVER MET IN MY LIFE HAS BEEN A GENTILE.

Incidentally, the Hebrew Bible says NOTHING about two women lying with one another. There is nothing on the subject at all in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament. Whatever a person's own views on the subject might be, one cannot go there to find an objection to the matter.

The fact remains, however, that, although I myself am a happily married straight male, I have known many gay men, quite a few lesbians, and a few transgendered persons in my time. And every one of them has been a Gentile except for two, unless you count a third who had converted to Christianity, which, by definition, makes him a non-Jew, and thus, a Gentile. So...

And for our wonderful Holocaust denier, a recent notice in the news...

http://news.yahoo.com/ex-nazi-bookkeeper-auschwitz-goes-trial-germany-082003432.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/21/oskar-groening-trial-auschwitz_n_7107032.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Tau on April 21, 2015, 12:05:48 PM
Egypt has had several chances lately to change their laws, what with the "revolutions", and has chosen not to. And try more like 10 or 12, rather than 2 or 3, and we are speaking of Copts in Egypt, not Christians elsewhere in the Muslim world, although any perusal of the daily world news will make clear that the situation is dire for Christians pretty much everywhere in the Muslim world, just as it is for Jews.

And my comments on the KSA were relevant. You simply had no adequate response to them. The remarks make it clear that Islam is dangerous to the civilised world wherever it holds sway, as it does in the KSA. It must be prevented from spreading further.
Maybe but you are still full of it when you say, "The problem is, MOST Muslims do."  Good try though.

Actually, I am not full of it at all. You just have no adequate response. And my good buddy Mister Bickles is back! What fun!

No adequate response to what? You don't have an argument for us to respond to.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 21, 2015, 12:15:07 PM
Most Muslims believe what the Qur'an tells them about non-Muslims. After reading it three times, and studying in a Mosque for two years before becoming observant, I know this. You evidently do not. Read the Sunnah as well, where these beliefs are confirmed. And every Muslim I ever met confirmed that nearly all of them upheld Qur'anic standards. One almost has to.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on April 22, 2015, 09:23:59 AM
If a Muslim is prepared to marry a Jew, it tells me that their particular interpretation of islam is at least flexible enough to ignore the Jew-hating bits. Surely this is the direction that we want to be encouraging Islam to take. Does it matter if 'Most Muslims believe x' if the Muslim doing the marrying doesn't?

It's like the flourishing underground gay scene in Pakistan. Most of the men and women involved are Muslims, but their religion has been flexed to accept them.

Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Tau on April 23, 2015, 12:25:46 AM
Most Muslims believe what the Qur'an tells them about non-Muslims. After reading it three times, and studying in a Mosque for two years before becoming observant, I know this. You evidently do not. Read the Sunnah as well, where these beliefs are confirmed. And every Muslim I ever met confirmed that nearly all of them upheld Qur'anic standards. One almost has to.

I'm not convinced you've ever met a muslim
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 23, 2015, 01:08:05 AM
Most Muslims believe what the Qur'an tells them about non-Muslims. After reading it three times, and studying in a Mosque for two years before becoming observant, I know this. You evidently do not. Read the Sunnah as well, where these beliefs are confirmed. And every Muslim I ever met confirmed that nearly all of them upheld Qur'anic standards. One almost has to.

I'm not convinced you've ever met a muslim

Ask me if I give a shit what you're convinced of.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Tau on April 23, 2015, 01:55:38 AM
Most Muslims believe what the Qur'an tells them about non-Muslims. After reading it three times, and studying in a Mosque for two years before becoming observant, I know this. You evidently do not. Read the Sunnah as well, where these beliefs are confirmed. And every Muslim I ever met confirmed that nearly all of them upheld Qur'anic standards. One almost has to.

I'm not convinced you've ever met a muslim

Ask me if I give a shit what you're convinced of.

Why are you trying to convince us of things if you don't care what we think? Anyway, your characterization of muslims is highly in-congruent with my own experiences. Several of my fellow students are from the countries you would like to bomb (Palestine, Syria, Egypt, Oman, etc.) and none express the beliefs you're claiming they should.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 23, 2015, 03:01:38 AM
Mention Israel to them and see what their beliefs are. Ask the "Palestinian" about his so-called "Right of Return". Ask him about al Nakbha. Ask the Egyptian to tell you HONESTLY about the life of Christians in the country, if he has the balls. Ask the Jordanian to tell you about the Government's recent request that Jewish visitors to that Kingdom not come looking openly like Orthodox Jews, for fear for their safety. That's just for starters.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 23, 2015, 03:05:03 AM
Oh, and be sure to ask the "Palestinian" if he believes that the Jews ever had a Temple where the Dome of the Rock monstrosity now sits. If he actually admits that we did, ask him why so many of his compatriots deny it and watch him squirm.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on April 23, 2015, 08:08:50 AM
Maybe your being an asshole to people affects how kindly they look upon your cause...
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: jroa on April 23, 2015, 11:56:34 AM
Ask the Palestinians how it feels to have their country taken from them and to then get treated like second class citizens. 
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 23, 2015, 12:11:53 PM
Ask the Palestinians how it feels to have their country taken from them and to then get treated like second class citizens.

JROA, ask him why his people ever went there in the first place, since the Jews have a history that dates back there 4,000 years. Oh, and hand him a rock, and see if he has autonomic nerve function that causes him to throw it without thinking first.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: jroa on April 23, 2015, 12:18:51 PM
Ask the Palestinians how it feels to have their country taken from them and to then get treated like second class citizens.

JROA, ask him why his people ever went there in the first place, since the Jews have a history that dates back there 4,000 years. Oh, and hand him a rock, and see if he has autonomic nerve function that causes him to throw it without thinking first.

DNA tests have proven that many (if not most) of the Palestinians have been there as long, or longer, than any Jews.  Oh, and speaking of throwing rocks, why do 8 year old Palestinian kids have to be escorted by IDF troops on their way to school in the "settled" areas just because the adult "settlers" can't resist throwing rocks at them?   Pot, meet kettle. 
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 23, 2015, 12:23:08 PM
Bullshit. I'm talking about the fact that Jews were there first. Arabs got there in the 600's. Or, if they ARE in fact Canaanites, then they are under Biblical ban and should be killed outright according to Torah Law, if you really want to go that far. I won't, myself. Deportation will satisfy me. And frankly, I don't care about children needing protection. Maybe if their parents didn't throw rockets and rocks it wouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: jroa on April 23, 2015, 01:24:34 PM
Correction, Islam got there around the 600s, there were people there before Islam, and some of them became Muslim.  The people who were there prior to Islam may have been Canaanites, or they could have been of any number of other people who have lived on the land since before written records. 

By the way, DNA testing has shown that the Jew and Palestinians share common ancestors.  How can you say that the land belongs Jews, especially since there has not been very much of a Jewish presence there between the time that the Roman Empire governed the land and a half century ago? 
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 23, 2015, 02:02:35 PM
We've been over this. In SEVERAL threads. I am not going over it again. Evidently, your education is not extensive enough for you to know what you are talking about. So I shall leave the matter here, so you don't embarrass yourself further.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: garygreen on April 23, 2015, 02:06:08 PM
Most Muslims believe what the Qur'an tells them about non-Muslims. After reading it three times, and studying in a Mosque for two years before becoming observant, I know this. You evidently do not. Read the Sunnah as well, where these beliefs are confirmed. And every Muslim I ever met confirmed that nearly all of them upheld Qur'anic standards. One almost has to.

I'm with Tausami.  None of thing rings true to my own experiences, especially in the Middle East.  I'm no expert, but I did spend nearly a month in Jordan in 2014, and I absolutely did talk to the people I met about Christianity, Judaism, Atheism, Palestine, Israel, etc.  I encountered none of the hatred and bigotry you describe.  Not once in that time did I hear anyone express an opinion even close to being as hateful as yours are about Arabs.  Probably the most violent reaction toward Israel that I encountered was something to the effect of "Jews are assholes, and I wish they would just leave everyone alone."  That's pretty much nothing compared to the hateful shit you say on these fora on a regular basis.  You're one of the most hateful people I've encountered in my life.  I didn't meet anyone in Jordan as nasty or hateful as you are.  Keep telling me about how you're on the side of righteousness, please.

Now I'm not saying that Amman is just as secular and liberal as, say, London.  Good luck finding a synagogue.  They obviously do not have the same religious/cultural freedoms in their societies that we do.  And there's nothing inherently evil about that.  Every society draws a different line.  No one tried to kill me, convert me, tax me, or really even argue with me about anything.

You are very, very fond of reminding everyone that you've studied at a mosque for two years.  You've brought it up...literally dozens and dozens of times.  Do you ever think that maybe visiting a mosque in America doesn't complete the picture of what it is to be a Muslim in the Middle East?  Or that maybe such a statement is nonsense on its face since Islam, like Christianity, can be broken up into many smaller factions with mutually exclusive beliefs?  I mean, for all we know you studied at Islam's version of Westboro Baptist. 
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 23, 2015, 02:16:27 PM
I never suggested my right wing attitude on "Palestine" was conventional for Judaism. In fact, most Jews of my acquaintance do NOT share my views. They still believe in the Two-State Solution. I did too, for MANY YEARS. I don't now, because my education has taught me that it is unrealistic and stupid to do so. But even in Israel, 85% of Israeli Jews (at least before the last war with Gaza) still believed in it.

I have said that many times in this forum as well. Perhaps you are all reading only that which you wish to read. Hell, I have even said, more than once, that if they would be willing to stop throwing their effing rockets, I might even be willing to reconsider, and that against my better judgement. But they haven't, and won't, I don't expect. So I have had no reason to actually go that route.

But I freely admit, my views are more in line with a hard-core Orthodox Right Wing view that is not conventional here in the US or in Israel. I have never denied that.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: jroa on April 23, 2015, 02:24:12 PM
We've been over this. In SEVERAL threads. I am not going over it again. Evidently, your education is not extensive enough for you to know what you are talking about. So I shall leave the matter here, so you don't embarrass yourself further.

I am sorry to challenge your feeling of entitlement for people of your religion.  I am simply pointing out all of the flaws in your statements.  If you do not want for me to repeat myself, then quit making false statements. 
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 23, 2015, 02:30:45 PM
I am not making false statements. You are. And stupid ones, for that matter. There was ALWAYS a Jewish presence in the Holy Land, even after the Romans. And the Muslim/Arabs are exactly that. And invaders in a land that is not theirs, like the British in India. They need to leave, like the British in India. Or be dealt wish some harsher way.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 23, 2015, 02:45:20 PM
Well, I have more important things to do than debate this subject for about the 90th time. So, I shall bid you all fond adieu at present. Have a wonderful day all.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: jroa on April 23, 2015, 02:57:53 PM
I am not making false statements. You are. And stupid ones, for that matter. There was ALWAYS a Jewish presence in the Holy Land, even after the Romans. And the Muslim/Arabs are exactly that. And invaders in a land that is not theirs, like the British in India. They need to leave, like the British in India. Or be dealt wish some harsher way.

I did not say there were no Jews there during that period.  I said they did not have a major presence there, compared to other religions.  Jews have not been the majority there since the rise of Christianity, as this table shows.  Now, thousands of years later, your people claim a right to the land because an an oral story of a crazy guy with voices in his head written in an old book hundreds or thousands of years after the fact says so.  And you have the nerve to call me stupid? 

Also, as I have pointed out to you before, Israel is by definition an Arab country, regardless of whether it is run by Jews or by Muslims.  And, Arab does not mean Muslim, as you so often like to pretend. 

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Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: garygreen on April 23, 2015, 03:56:06 PM
I'm not 100% sure you were responding to me, but I assume you were.

I never suggested my right wing attitude on "Palestine" was conventional for Judaism. In fact, most Jews of my acquaintance do NOT share my views. They still believe in the Two-State Solution. I did too, for MANY YEARS. I don't now, because my education has taught me that it is unrealistic and stupid to do so. But even in Israel, 85% of Israeli Jews (at least before the last war with Gaza) still believed in it.

Indeed.  I didn't say otherwise.  On the contrary, the Jews I encountered in Jordan were delightful people.  They also weren't being killed or converted or taxed or bothered in any way.  Your narrative of Islam and the Arab world runs completely counter to my experiences.  That's not to say that my experiences are universal or that there is no anti-semitism in the Arab world.  My point is that your reduction of Islam to a moral philosophy of violence, exclusion, and bigotry, is facile.

I have said that many times in this forum as well. Perhaps you are all reading only that which you wish to read. Hell, I have even said, more than once, that if they would be willing to stop throwing their effing rockets, I might even be willing to reconsider, and that against my better judgement. But they haven't, and won't, I don't expect. So I have had no reason to actually go that route.

I think your understanding of who "they" are is problematic.  If by "they" you mean "the Palestinians," then your statement is nonsensical.  The overwhelming majority of the Palestinian people are not throwing rockets at Israel.  They're simply living where they were born.  Since Israel literally won't let them leave, I'm not sure what else they're supposed to do.

If by "they" you mean "Hamas," then I guess you're just advocating collective punishment.  And naively, too.  "The Palestinians can have their human rights back as soon as the terrorists who are locked into this almost-literal-terrorist-factory we built stop being terrorists and stop producing more terrorists."  Ok.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 23, 2015, 04:16:02 PM
I am not making false statements. You are. And stupid ones, for that matter. There was ALWAYS a Jewish presence in the Holy Land, even after the Romans. And the Muslim/Arabs are exactly that. And invaders in a land that is not theirs, like the British in India. They need to leave, like the British in India. Or be dealt wish some harsher way.

I did not say there were no Jews there during that period.  I said they did not have a major presence there, compared to other religions.  Jews have not been the majority there since the rise of Christianity, as this table shows.  Now, thousands of years later, your people claim a right to the land because an an oral story of a crazy guy with voices in his head written in an old book hundreds or thousands of years after the fact says so.  And you have the nerve to call me stupid? 

Also, as I have pointed out to you before, Israel is by definition an Arab country, regardless of whether it is run by Jews or by Muslims.  And, Arab does not mean Muslim, as you so often like to pretend. 


No one defines Israel as part of Arabia except you and the few perverted books you like to read. Certainly the Bible doesn't.  And the Levant, which is what Israel is a part of, has never been classified as part of Arabia. The fact that you choose to redefine geography to suit your PC needs is your fucked up problem not mine, much like those PC Australians who call themselves part of Asia.

And let's face it, 95 percent of all Arabs are Muslims, although Arabs only make up 23% of the world Muslim population, that is true. I actually probably know the figures better than you do, so I would advise you not to lecture, because in doing so, you make yourself look like a fool.

And, despite all your tables and etc, the fact is, we have our country back. It is ours, and always will be. So, fundamentally, the Arabs, and anybody else, can kiss our collective butts if they don't like it. It is that simple.

The Land of Israel is ours, and we got it back. And eventually, Greater Israel will be ours too. And people who don't like it can just deal with it, Or whine, the way you all do. My response. Tough shit.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Mostlyharmless on April 23, 2015, 04:23:56 PM
Most Muslims believe what the Qur'an tells them about non-Muslims. After reading it three times, and studying in a Mosque for two years before becoming observant, I know this. You evidently do not. Read the Sunnah as well, where these beliefs are confirmed. And every Muslim I ever met confirmed that nearly all of them upheld Qur'anic standards. One almost has to.

I'm not convinced you've ever met a muslim

Ask me if I give a shit what you're convinced of.
Every Muslim I've ever met doesn't care about non Muslims, and doesn't follow the qu'ran's approach to them, much like most Christians.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Tau on April 23, 2015, 05:55:57 PM
Why does it matter who's lived in an area longer? Who gives a shit? What matters is who lives there now. You can't kick all of the Americans out of America and give it back to the Natives, and you can't kick all of the Palestinians out of Palestine and give it to the Jews, nor can you do the reverse to give it to the Palestinians. It doesn't really matter who has a more valid claim to the land, what matters is all the people getting fucked over by the current situation (which is to say, all of them).
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on April 23, 2015, 08:20:37 PM
Since Yaakov seems to take any slight against him as an anti-semitic attack, I think I've worked out why he thinks that Muslims think the way they do:

Muslim guy, "Hey, my name is Muslim Guy. I see you're new here, do you fancy meeting up at lunch and I can introduce you to people?"

Yaakov, "No, you people are occupying Israel and your religion teaches you to kill people like me, why would I want to be friends with you?"

MG "Hey, there's no need to be an asshole."

Y "Oh, so all Jews are assholes? I suppose it makes sense that you think that when you've been indoctrinated into hatred."

MG "*rolls eyes* Fuck you."
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on April 23, 2015, 08:29:33 PM
Well, at this point, I have to close off this debate, at least for the present. I am taking an online class, doing research for a book, and working in politics. I simply don't have any more time for this at the present time. For the present, I must go away for a bit of time. So I shall bid you all adieu. Enjoy the debate.

Since Yaakov seems to take any slight against him as an anti-semitic attack, I think I've worked out why he thinks that Muslims think the way they do:

Muslim guy, "Hey, my name is Muslim Guy. I see you're new here, do you fancy meeting up at lunch and I can introduce you to people?"

Yaakov, "No, you people are occupying Israel and your religion teaches you to kill people like me, why would I want to be friends with you?"

MG "Hey, there's no need to be an asshole."

Y "Oh, so all Jews are assholes? I suppose it makes sense that you think that when you've been indoctrinated into hatred."

MG "*rolls eyes* Fuck you."

Actually, I tend to be quite polite to Muslims, simply because there is no need to be an asshole.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on April 23, 2015, 08:33:55 PM
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there is no need to be an asshole.

Your posting record here suggests otherwise.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: jroa on April 23, 2015, 09:31:52 PM
Yaakov would probably throw stones at you if you said that to his face.  You know how those Arabs are with their rocks. 
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rushy on April 23, 2015, 09:34:03 PM
Yaakov is polite to people in person but actually wants to stab them in the back.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Vindictus on April 24, 2015, 12:11:49 AM
much like those PC Australians who call themselves part of Asia.

Technically Oceania, but given proximity and trade ties calling Australia part of Asia is more prudent than some vague notion of PC.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on May 02, 2015, 05:26:14 PM
should the jews suffer a real Holocaust to pay for their filthy crimes?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMCOKNCwHmQ
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on May 02, 2015, 07:27:51 PM
Apparently your nap was not of assistance to you, Bickles. What crimes exactly? Do you have any proof of said crimes, or just more of the batshit crazy self-hating Jew monk?

I find self-hating Jews, like the monk, to be the most mysterious people of all. Bickles can be explained as just one more of a long line of anti-Semitic drones that have littered the fields of history. This started with the Biblical book of Esther and has continued to modern times. I wouldn't call the Egyptians Jew-haters as such. To them, Hebrews were just a batch of slaves, no different than any other slaves.

But the batshit crazy monk, who is ethnically, and was at one time religiously, a Jew, is a fascinating phenomenon. He is not the only one of course. Bobby Fischer the chess champion was a self-hating Jew, Karl Marx was a self-hating Jew, one could make the argument that Leon Trotsky was, and there have been many others. Of course, they can be very destructive to their fellow Jews when put into a position of power. The batshit crazy monk, I have no doubt, would not hesitate to kill if given a chance.

But on a sociological level, the self-hating Jew is an interesting being to observe.

The non-Jewish hater of Jews is fairly easy to explain. They are usually jealous of our higher degree of education, our overall higher degree of success in the world (group success, not necessarily individual success; I have met extremely wealthy Jews, and very poor ones, and lower middle class ones, myself being among the latter  ;D ), our high visibility in fields like the arts and sciences, etc.

Surprisingly enough, there actually aren't that many Jews involved in banking. In fact, if you want to find a field wherein Jews ARE highly represented, I can point to three. One, psychiatry. Two, the law. Three, medicine. Even in Hollywood, there aren't near as many as people think there are, its just that the ones that there are tend to be highly visible. And I would observe that the Hollywood ones tend to be mostly non-religious as well.

And I won't dispute that there ARE Jews involved in distasteful activities such as pornography, both licit and ILlicit. But then, there are huge numbers of Gentiles in that kind of thing as well, so...

The reason I bring up such distasteful subjects is because they have been brought up by Bickles before, and I expect will be again as one of the "filthy crimes" we are supposedly guilty of. Given that Jews are no more or less likely to commit such offences than the rest of the population statistically speaking, I would love to see how he defines those things as specifically Jewish activities. But hey, Bickles has his own logic that does not conform to the rest of the planet (or probably the Euclidean universe, I am guessing).
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on May 23, 2015, 10:30:13 AM
well...its not that hard to figure out who the real Australian "government" is!

apropos Voltaire.....to find out who rules over you, find out who you can't criticise!  :(
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on June 04, 2015, 11:42:48 PM
who's actually "running" this Forum?
the jew or the mods?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on June 04, 2015, 11:45:34 PM
Surprisingly enough, there actually aren't that many Jews involved in banking. In fact, if you want to find a field wherein Jews ARE highly represented, I can point to three. One, psychiatry. Two, the law. Three, medicine. Even in Hollywood, there aren't near as many as people think there are, its just that the ones that there are tend to be highly visible.

just a filthy jew lie!
how do you know a jew is lieing?
its lips are moving!

jews controlling banking/media/medicine/Hollywood (indeed: most of the jewSA government) can be easily checked for those interested!

start here: http://jewwatch.com ;
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on June 04, 2015, 11:56:33 PM
Bickles can be explained as just one more of a long line of anti-Semitic drones that have littered the fields of history.... 

here's what a few of those "anti-semitic drones"   ::)  have said:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/repute.htm ;
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on June 05, 2015, 04:44:21 AM
COCKSHIT!!!!
AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on June 05, 2015, 05:10:53 AM
yeh....nice analysis, rebuttal and critique of the comprehensive and voluminous material @ "jewwatch";
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on June 05, 2015, 05:18:03 AM
Do you have any proof of said crimes, or just more of the batshit crazy self-hating Jew monk?
 

there's heaps of proof, jew!
any-one who watches the docco' and reads any relevant follow up material such as David Irving and James Bacque would find enough proof to satisfy any jury in the world "beyond reasonable doubt"
and...that's a lot more proof than exists for yr dirty, filthy "Holocaust" hoax!   >:(

damn jews! jews start all the wars! Mel Gibson
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on June 05, 2015, 06:26:03 AM
Christianity sucks too, so there.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on June 05, 2015, 06:37:12 AM
Christianity sucks too, so there.

yeh, right!
and....the current filthy state that this world is in is because of "christianity", right?
(i guess that "the Sermon on the Mount" and the Ten Commandments have got a lot to answer for, eh?)

wars are the jews' harvest!
"the modern world is a jewish disease!"  :(


Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on June 05, 2015, 06:48:34 AM
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Apparently your nap was not of assistance to you, Bickles

yr going to have a "nap" soon, jew!
a permanent one!
most jews are going to visit their father the Devil and get their just desserts!
(oh.....and don't bother with a death bed confession/conversion to Jesus Christ....that hardly ever works...you'll die as you lived!....and, most jews have lived as: liars,mass murderers, baby butchers, psychopaths, paedophiles and pornographers!)
 

here's a little taste of what's "in store" for most jews!
 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWXkBBIaiVc
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on June 05, 2015, 07:10:04 AM
Your Abrahamic religions have no place outside of the Asian deserts. Take them back to the middle east, you cancer worshipping fanatics. Your religions are a disease upon Europe and the rest of the world. Jews, Christians and Muslims alike, remove yourself from our glorious European soil!
Hail the European Gods! Hail and Joy! HailaR WôðanaR!
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: JRowe on June 05, 2015, 10:48:32 AM
and....the current filthy state that this world is in is because of "christianity", right?
...the Ten Commandments have got a lot to answer for, eh?
Because the Ten Commandments are so obviously exclusively Christian.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on June 05, 2015, 12:36:28 PM
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yr going to have a "nap" soon, jew!
a permanent one!

Surely this falls foul of the first two forum rules, even if the tedious trolling anti-semitism didn't?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on June 05, 2015, 03:04:53 PM
In order to go to hell, I'd have to believe in it first. I don't. Nor does the text that most Christians call the "Old Testament". But don't worry about old Bickles. He's just too tired. Can't seem to rest adequately. And still full of orthographic errors, I see.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Blanko on June 05, 2015, 03:16:06 PM
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Apparently your nap was not of assistance to you, Bickles

yr going to have a "nap" soon, jew!
a permanent one!
most jews are going to visit their father the Devil and get their just desserts!
(oh.....and don't bother with a death bed confession/conversion to Jesus Christ....that hardly ever works...you'll die as you lived!....and, most jews have lived as: liars,mass murderers, baby butchers, psychopaths, paedophiles and pornographers!)
 

here's a little taste of what's "in store" for most jews!
 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWXkBBIaiVc

Although we appreciate the freedom of religious expression, death threats against another user is certainly taking things too far. Three day ban.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on June 05, 2015, 04:39:53 PM
Well, that was interesting. A three day ban for a death threat. Seems a little mild to me. And so my wife thought. I mean, I don't deny, I have been known to be a real dick in here, but I've never pulled that. So being an a**hole gets more punishment than issuing what amount to terrorist threats. Fascinating. Even my suggestions that we turn the entire ME to glass don't compare, since that is foreign policy advice, rather than threats against a person.

Well, such is life, I suppose. Anyone who issues personal death threats should be perma-banned, in my opinion. The mildness of the punishment does not any way fit the offence.

Just my opinion.

.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Blanko on June 05, 2015, 04:58:57 PM
Well, that was interesting. A three day ban for a death threat. Seems a little mild to me. And so my wife thought. I mean, I don't deny, I have been known to be a real dick in here, but I've never pulled that. So being an a**hole gets more punishment than issuing what amount to terrorist threats. Fascinating. Even my suggestions that we turn the entire ME to glass don't compare, since that is foreign policy advice, rather than threats against a person.

Well, such is life, I suppose. Anyone who issues personal death threats should be perma-banned, in my opinion. The mildness of the punishment does not any way fit the offence.

Just my opinion.

.

We'll issue longer bans if it becomes necessary, but mister bickles has shown in the past that he does improve his behaviour when told to, so I don't a think a first incident requires that much punishment.

Besides, it's not exactly an explicit threat. Christians tell people they're going to hell all the time. It's in their kind-hearted nature.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Saddam Hussein on June 05, 2015, 05:16:37 PM
inb4 Parsifal overturns the ban
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on July 07, 2015, 04:10:00 AM
If you lack a devil in your home, invite a Jew in.

Whoever serves a Jew will not avoid disaster.

What God loves, a Jew discards.

A baptised Jew is like a tamed wolf.

A Jew boasts of things a gentile repents for.

Let a Jew into your house for a day and you won’t get rid of him in a year.

Wherever a Jew goes, misfortune brews.

A Jew’s hands love the labour of others.

Pandering to a Jew is no different from being a thief yourself.

A Jew is always ready to cross himself if he profits from it.

A Jew is nourished by mischief.

Where a Jew walks, men’s tears flow.

A Jew will say he was beaten, but will never say for what.

A Jew in business is like a leech on the skin.

A Jew’s love is worse than a hangman’s noose.

You want to ruin a Jew, don’t do business with him.

For a Jew, souls are cheaper than coins.

While you drink, a Jew steals your money.

A Jew doesn’t know what shame is.

A Jew will even swing a censer, as long as coin flows.

Run with Jews, wake up with sins.

Where a Jew goes, bribes follow.

First a Jew treats you to a drink, then he makes you a drunkard.

A Jew takes you not by force, but by temptation.

A Jew stinks as badly as he looks.

A Jew is like a pig: nothing hurts, but he keeps squealing.

A house is only good until a Jew settles in it.

A Jew is honey-mouthed in poverty, insolent in equality and a fiend in power.

Call a Jew a brother and he will call himself your father.

A Jew swings his tongue while a man swings his hoe.

A Jew works only with his stomach.

Who buys from a Jew digs his own grave.

A Jew promising healing is like Death promising life.

What ends up in a Jew’s hands, disappears.

Avoid friendship with a Jew and you will avoid trouble in life.

Bow to a Jew and you break in half.

Jews are like rats – only strong in packs.

Jewish praise is worse than scolding.

Trust your eyes, not Jewish words.

Jews carry lies like fields carry wheat.

When a Jew tells the truth, the Devil will die.

A Jew sinks the truth with gold, but it always floats to the surface.

A Jew looks at you like a fox, yet stinks like a wolf.

When you weep with joy, a Jew weeps with envy.

Even a sated Jew looks around with hungry eyes.

A Jew stops sucking blood only when he tires of breathing.

Better to lose with a Christian than to find with a Jew.

A Jew trembles over every coin even with one foot in the grave.

Jews sow usury and reap misery.

Jews pave their way with money.

You may complete your service to God, but never your service to a Jew.

Around rich Jews, men wear rags.

Locusts might devour your crops, but a Jew will rip your skin off.

Who gives a Jew free will, sells himself into slavery.

A leech will gorge itself and fall off, a Jew won’t.

There are no good Jews, just like there are no good rats.

Punch a Jew in the face and he will accuse you of murder.

When a Jew appears in your village, tie your tongue and unleash your dogs.

If you want to live, drive away the Jew.


how true!
centuries of wisdom in those "proverbs"
ignore them @ yr extreme peril!  ☠ ☠
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on July 07, 2015, 04:31:34 AM
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In order to go to hell, I'd have to believe in it first

how ludicrous, if not absurd!

if the place exists, it doesn't matter whether you "believe" in it or not!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1nCYwHt_20


"sinners in the hands of an angry God"....the most famous sermon ever preached in America! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinners_in_the_Hands_of_an_Angry_God)

 
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on July 07, 2015, 04:38:11 AM
words of wisdom from Br Nathanael Kapner...

"jewish tyranny at the Supreme Court"  :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVKlZRWeDI4


"should Christians 'bless' the jews?" [NO!  >:( ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyY7a75dl7c
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on July 07, 2015, 06:41:12 AM
You're assuming Christianity isn't some loony bastardised version of Judaism and Paganism. It is. It is from the Pagan side that it got the whole "Hell" Concept. Remember, Christians are Pagans. Keep that in mind at all times.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Pete Svarrior on July 07, 2015, 07:51:17 AM
Remember, Christians are Pagans. Keep that in mind at all times.
You say that as if it was a bad thing. Seriously, though, who cares?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on July 07, 2015, 08:18:23 AM
Its a question of whether Hell exists. It certainly doesn't, in Judaism. and since Jesus was a Jew, that is the only standard that can be used to judge his beliefs. Anything else is illogical. Of course, we know that Bickles needs a nap and a blanket, but that is another issue.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on July 13, 2015, 10:22:58 AM
Its a question of whether Hell exists. It certainly doesn't, in Judaism. and since Jesus was a Jew, that is the only standard that can be used to judge his beliefs. Anything else is illogical. Of course, we know that Bickles needs a nap and a blanket, but that is another issue.

the evidence (both Biblical and extra-Biblical) for the existence of Hell is overwhelming;

of course, jews, being a bunch of psychopathic liars, will lie about this;

they are vile, unrepentent enemies of Jesus Christ and opposers/blockers of the Gospel;

they are devils in shoe-leather, whose rightful place is in the Lake of Fire, reserved specifically for the Devil and his angels;

nothing good can be said abt any jew;

except, maybe, for those small handful who have renounced, repudiated and spurned judaism and their "jewiness";

Hell is full of jews!  >:(


a Jack Chick tract...
where is Rabbi Waxmann?  (http://chick.com/reading/tracts/0014/0014_01.asp)

a web-site that attempts "a scientific study" of NDEs;
http://www.near-death.com/ ;
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on July 13, 2015, 10:43:11 AM
You're assuming Christianity isn't some loony bastardised version of Judaism and Paganism. It is. It is from the Pagan side that it got the whole "Hell" Concept. Remember, Christians are Pagans. Keep that in mind at all times.


the OTW inexplicable conversion of Saul of Tarsus, an ultra-Orthodox jew and, most likely, a highly respected rabbi of the time period (1st century CE) totally negates that asinine rubbish!  >:(
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on July 14, 2015, 10:01:35 PM
You are, of course, assuming that Yeshu existed. It is far more likely that he did not exist at all, but is an entirely made-up, fictional character. He wrote nothing. What was written about him was 30 years and later from his death. Pagans say nothing about him directly. They only refer to Christians who worship Christ. The references in Josephus are known to be a later Christian interpolation. So, you stand on very shaky gound at best. Its kind of amusing, really.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on July 15, 2015, 01:34:32 AM
You are, of course, assuming that Yeshu existed. It is far more likely that he did not exist at all, but is an entirely made-up, fictional character. He wrote nothing. What was written about him was 30 years and later from his death. Pagans say nothing about him directly. They only refer to Christians who worship Christ. The references in Josephus are known to be a later Christian interpolation. So, you stand on very shaky gound at best. Its kind of amusing, really.

you're the one on "shaky ground", jew!
you may argue about the miracles of Christ, His ministry and the veracity of the ressurection claims but to argue against His actual, Earthly existence is the provenance of village idiot atheism;

http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2012/12/24/3660194.htm ;

as per Mr Dickson's challenge in the abv-linked article....
(can) anyone...find a full professor of Classics, Ancient History or New Testament in any accredited university in the world who thinks Jesus never lived?

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/three-suspects-arrested-in-israel-after-arson-at-site-of-jesus-miracle-31371594.html ;
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on July 15, 2015, 11:50:30 AM
Boy, do I feel threatened. If he did exist, which is questionable, he was a Jew, and the New Testament is still BS. So the "Lord" you claim to love so much was a Jew, not much different than me. They have proven that Askenazi Jews have as much Middle Eastern descent in them as would be expected for a group of Jews living in Europe for 1500 years. The whole Khazar theory has discarded. The only people that converted there were the nobles and the royalty of the kingdom.

Ultimately, you are immature. You can't deal with the world, and have a deep-seated inferiority complex  As a result, you seem to need to "take it out on someone", and you have picked the Jews. Its really a stupid choice, since you can't compete with us intellectually. We are 0.02% of the population worldwide, and have received 20% of all Nobel Prizes, which are given by non-Jews.

So you've chosen us. This despite the fact that Jesus was a Jew. We can still trace the Temple Cohanim (Priests) and Levites in our ethnic group. Of course, you are probably too lacking in knowledge to get what I mean.

Suffice it to say, Goy, that whenever you insult me, you are insulting what Jesus was, since he was a Jew who worshipped and believed more or less as I do.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on July 15, 2015, 11:57:22 AM
Yaakov still hasn't figured out that he's arguing with a troll.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on July 15, 2015, 01:08:02 PM
Its really a stupid choice, since you can't compete with us intellectually. We are 0.02% of the population worldwide, and have received 20% of all Nobel Prizes, which are given by non-Jews

that's a LIE!  >:(
first off: only Nobel Prizes for science really count!
second off: almost all such Nobel Prizes "won" by jews have been because they have purloined the work of non-jews....almost always white Europeans/gentiles....the group that jews despise and afflict the most!
you want me to list them, jew?



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Suffice it to say, Goy, that whenever you insult me, you are insulting what Jesus was, since he was a Jew who worshipped and believed more or less as I do.

uh...right!
that's why He called you hypocrites, "liars and murderers" whose real "father" is the Devil;
He also said that He could make "sons of Abraham" out of house-bricks if He felt so inclined!
so much for your "priest-hood" which was ended any-way when the Temple veil was ripped asunder after the Crucifixion;
but....continue on.....
lying and murdering jews have a certain destination....its a place at the end of their life called HELL!
(and.....it doesn't matter whether you "believe" in it or not!)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ORuXR6dO4
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on July 15, 2015, 01:17:45 PM
Again, Goy Troll, you're assuming he lived in the first place. You can't prove to me that he did outside the pages of the so-called "New Testament", which is not reliable history.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on July 15, 2015, 02:04:35 PM
Yaakov still hasn't figured out that he's arguing with a troll.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rama Set on July 15, 2015, 02:12:51 PM
Yaakov still hasn't figured out that he's arguing with a troll.

What is the sound of two trolls arguing?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on July 28, 2015, 08:20:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8a6I9s2IYc
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on July 28, 2015, 08:39:14 AM
Someone put this lunatic in a straitjacket.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 02, 2015, 12:27:25 PM
could Adolf Hitler have been sent by Almighty God?

Adolf Hitler vs the Jew World Order



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssCkc8t9sho

(one thing's for sure.....Hitler stopped rabid, jew communism from engulfing all of Europe if not the world.....also....from WWII, came computers [or their v early proto-types], from that came the micro-electronic revolution.....from that came the personal computer and the internet and the internet has chucked an "economy-sized" monkey-wrench into the jew plans of world enslavement.....hence the general jew antipathy towards it and their frantic and futile attempts to "shut it down"....sorry, jews!....its too little, too late......it can't be shut down.....  ::)
see this [telco-in-a-box] (http://www.nknews.org/2015/05/could-telco-in-a-box-help-n-koreans-communicate-with-outside-world/))
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: DoctorMoe on August 02, 2015, 01:56:29 PM
How does Eric Dubay have the time to vomit his ceaseless ranting filth all over his own forum and website and come here as his alter ego "Mister Bickles" and do the same?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 02, 2015, 02:47:20 PM
if you read my 'post' in this thread (https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=2459.100), you'll discover that i'm @ considerable odds with duBay over his attitude to xtianity which, in the context of flat Earth, is nonsensical;

but....yes.....i most certainly do agree with his stance on WWII/Hitler/nazis/sixmilliondeadjews™ ;

as for "alter egos"....are you sure yr not an "alter ego" of the resident rabbi?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: DoctorMoe on August 02, 2015, 04:25:57 PM
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as for "alter egos"....are you sure yr not an "alter ego" of the resident rabbi?

Well all Jews are exactly the same, so yeah, he's my alter ego and I am his. And if there's ever been a Jew who was into slavery, that means all Jews are slavers...

I must have missed your disagreement with Dubay regarding Christianity.
So what's your stance?
Pro Christian, anti-Christian?

Sorry, reading your posts brings up bile, so just skimmed as quickly as I could, might have missed it.


 





Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on August 02, 2015, 05:32:42 PM
Christianity is no better than judaism.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: DoctorMoe on August 03, 2015, 04:03:28 AM
Mister Bickles,

Christ taught of Love and forgiveness as the very most central and important aspect of Christianity.
All you have is hatred.
You are the worst kind of Christian there is.
You do not even follow the very teachings of your Bible.

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Roman 11:17-24
The Ingrafting of the Gentiles


17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you.…

…19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in."
20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; 21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.…

22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?

I denounce you as a Christian.
You are cut off.

Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Hoppy on August 03, 2015, 05:15:24 AM
Jesus didn't like the Jews either.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 03, 2015, 07:25:25 AM
Mister Bickles,

Christ taught of Love and forgiveness as the very most central and important aspect of Christianity.
All you have is hatred.
You are the worst kind of Christian there is.
You do not even follow the very teachings of your Bible.

Quote
Roman 11:17-24
The Ingrafting of the Gentiles


17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you.…

…19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in."
20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; 21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.…

22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?

I denounce you as a Christian.
You are cut off.

go tell it to Zio-fools/jew tools like John Hagee!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdvxfuTA0PE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyY7a75dl7c


jews typically mis-quote Scripture to suit their own, nefarious jew ends!  >:(
and.....yeh!.....yr right!
jews have " a hive mind".....so....yr just the same as Rabbi Yak ...   >:(

uh.....hey...there's abortion clinics that need running, eh?
there's crushed up fetuses that need flogging off, eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w53q7tCPNA
.......
hvn't you got some-thing else to do, eh?  ::)

http://www.darkmoon.me/2015/german-victims-how-the-allied-victors-of-wwii-tortured-and-killed-their-german-prisoners-part-1-of-2/ ;
http://www.darkmoon.me/2015/german-victims-how-the-allied-victors-of-wwii-tortured-and-killed-their-german-prisoners-of-war-part-2-of-2/
 
 
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 03, 2015, 07:31:18 AM
Christianity is no better than judaism.

seems to me yr woefully ignorant abt jews....   :-\
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on August 03, 2015, 11:08:51 AM
Christian violence burned throughout Europe during the middle ages. Killing and torturing innocent people. Those who would not submit to God were burned. Your religion turned Europe into a shithole by force.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 03, 2015, 11:43:50 AM
Christian violence burned throughout Europe during the middle ages. Killing and torturing innocent people. Those who would not submit to God were burned. Your religion turned Europe into a shithole by force.

mostly jew lies!
and ancient history, to boot! >:(

and.....none of which invalidates in the slightest the very cogent claims of xtianity any-way...

but...before xtians apologise for the few thousands so killed by excessive zeal.....let's see the jews apologise for wrecking Western culture, starting two world wars (and innumerable smaller ones), instigating communist terror and lieing about their so-called "Holocaust"
(oh....and...paying back $the gazillions$ that they have fraudelently extorted...... >:( )

if you want to get into "a numbers game" vis á vis the above....i'll be more than happy to oblige but i'm not really interested in "arguing the toss" but rather that people do their own research;

"The Black Book of Communism" is always a good starter-offerer.....
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: DoctorMoe on August 03, 2015, 03:39:31 PM
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Bickles wrote:
<<jews typically mis-quote Scripture to suit their own, nefarious jew ends! >>

It's easy to say that, but how did I misquote Scripture?

Pray enlighten me how that is a misinterpretation of Scripture?

Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 08, 2015, 12:04:20 PM
....the biggest "sting operation" in history  :o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt0UZAhRp3E
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: markjo on August 09, 2015, 05:16:14 AM
Personally, I think that calling it three days is being quite generous.  The way I figure it, Jesus spent all of about 36 or so hours in the grave over the course of those 3 days.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: jroa on August 09, 2015, 05:47:40 AM
Listen to markjo.  He was there. 
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 10, 2015, 08:33:33 AM
is judaism a satanic cult? (http://henrymakow.com/lucifers_chosen_people.html)   >:(

deeds speak louder than words...
or....as the Good Book says: by their deeds, ye shall know them

"burning Christian churces legitimate under jewish [read: satanic] law" (http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015/8/8/burning-churches-is-legitimate-under-jewish-law)
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on August 10, 2015, 03:52:45 PM
Of course, there has always been debate about whether Christianity is or is not idolatry. Since Christians do worship a man, that could be classified as idolatry under Halachic rulings. Even so, that would not permit burning of Churches, any more than Halacha would permit burning of Hindu temples, and Hinduism is, by anybody's (meaning any Abrahamic) definition, idolatrous.

There are, without doubt, a few radical Jews running around. Gophstein is one of them. Then again, there are some pretty radical Christians as well. The ones in the Central African Republic that are even now forcing Muslims to renounce their faith for Christianity or be killed would be an example of that.

Since we don't believe in Satan as a Devil figure, it would be hard to follow him in the way that idiot anti-Semites say we do. And the Henry Makow article is so full of factual errors, its just stupid. The first and most blatant is the statement that Jews pray in Yiddish.

Yiddish, or Judeo-German, although it is now a separate language, is the secular language of Ashkenazi Jews, ie, Jews of the Diaspora who settled in Central Europe and Russia. Ladino or Judeo-Spanish, is the secular language of Jews who settled in Spain and Portugal, and later made their homes in the Ottoman Empire and Greece, and parts of the Arab World. Judeo-Arabic and Yemeni Arabic are the secular languages of Jews who made their homes the wider Arab World in the first case, and in Yemen in the second case.

In no event were ANY of these languages used for worship in the synagogue. Hebrew has ALWAYS been the language of prayer, with some occasional lapses into Aramaic on the High Holy Days. Aramaic is a language closely related to Hebrew that was spoken as the lingua franca of the Holy Land during the time when Jesus supposedly lived (assuming he lived at all, which is debatable).

It is true that the Hebrew spoken by Ashkenazi Jews vs the Hebrew spoken by pretty much all other Jews is a slight bit different. The difference is NOT one of language or vocabulary, but purely one of pronunciation. For whatever reason, the Ashkenaz developed some peculiar ways of pronouncing certain letters of the Hebrew language. However, it is still Hebrew. It is NOT Yiddish.

If you tried to tell a Jew of any variety, Ashkenaz or otherwise, that he was praying in Yiddish during his prayers, he would most likely get offended enough to be very tempted to punch you in the jaw. Hebrew is laShon ha Kodesh, the Holy Tongue. No other language is good enough to use in worship, by Orthodox standards. Although according to Halacha, one is permitted to use any language that one personally understands to say one's prayers, I know of VERY few Jews other than myself who use anything other than Hebrew for their prayers. I use Elizabethan English, and that is because of my unique background, which I have detailed in other areas on this site.

To even suggest that a Jew prays in Yiddish is the stupidest thing I have even heard. I know you did not make that suggestion, but rather, the article you quoted did. So I don't blame you personally. I shall consider you ignorant of the truth, and not hold you accountable. But the fool who would write an article that he wants to be taken as fact and make such a blatant error is guilty of one of three things. Either (1), he is an idiot, or (2), he is a liar, or (3), he is both. Unfortunately, I expect he is number (3).
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 11, 2015, 08:25:05 AM
methinks you doth protest too much, jew!   >:(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SoQM9C4PiY&list=PLBF227B647F471AA7&index=8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yle_qeeOIMA&list=PLBF227B647F471AA7&index=21
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on August 11, 2015, 08:27:25 AM
Quit your jibbering. Christianity is just as dope as Judaism.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 11, 2015, 09:56:28 AM
this was your life! (http://chick.com/reading/tracts/0001/0001_01.asp)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M40oWJqgXYc
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on August 11, 2015, 01:23:23 PM
You didn't address the subject at hand. The article you quoted suggested that Jews pray in Yiddish. This is untrue. So I shall ask you straight out. Did you know and voluntarily hide the truth? In that case you are a liar. Or did you not know, which would make you ignorant? Be truthful now.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on August 11, 2015, 01:59:38 PM
So far, EVERYTHING the Mad Monk says applies to secular Jews. I don't get it. As a religious Jew, I tend to dislike them as much as you do, although not on "racial" (since Jews are not a race) or ethnic grounds. Non-religious Jews tend to make a mockery of ANY religion, not just Christianity. I'm not going to go out and suggest that they should all be killed, or anything radical like that, but I do tend to have a strong dislike for them.

In fact, I would say that non-religious Jews tend to make a mockery of Judaism even moreso than they do Christianity. A Rabbi went to Leon Trotsky, whose real name was Lev Bronstein. He was an atheist Jew, and as you all probably know, he was a Bolshevik. Said Rabbi had been sent by the Jewish community in Russia (obviously the religious community) to ask for a bit of a break from the brutal Communist policies then in effect, as they applied to how people exercised their religious beliefs.

Trotsky's response was of course negative. He told the Rabbi that he could offer him nothing. The Rabbi looked at him sadly and said,"I see. So, the Trotskys make the laws, and the Bronsteins pay the price."

You see, Bickles, you simplify things far too much. For you, there is only "the Jewish bogeyman". You don't bother to calculate that there are 15 million persons in the world who are halachically Jewish. Among those 15 million persons, approximately HALF are non-religious. Now, among that half you will find about half of them (about 3.25 million) who just live their life like anyone else. And then you have the other 7.5 million that are religious in some form or other, MOSTLY Orthodox, but also Conservative, Reform, and Reconstructionist. Trust me, these are NOT the ones that you are going to find in gay pride parades, or starring in porn, or mocking Christianity, or anything else weird or otherwise perverse. They have better things to do than commit sins of that nature, and it should be noted that mocking another man's religion IS a sin, be it Christianity or anything else.

So that leaves you with about 3.25 million persons that are both non-religious, and possibly offensive assholes, although I would actually put the number at less than that, but I shall, for the sake of argument, grant that number, just to be getting on with. And I, as much as you, regret the fact that they exist.

But, when you think about it, given the fact that the Gentile world makes up all but 0.02% of the world's population of over 7 billion persons, and 16% of that population calls itself non-religious, assuming that half that are decent, and the other half are assholes, that is A LOT of assholes in gay pride parades, or starring in porn, or mocking Christianity, or anything else weird or otherwise perverse.

So, lets put it all in perspective. The lines are not nearly as clearly drawn as you would like them to be. In fact, they aren't as clearly drawn as I draw them here! I know a few gay persons who would never mock religion of any sort. While I don't agree with who they choose to have sex with, I won't accuse them of things of which they are not guilty.

Think, Bickles! I have to hope that there is some semblance of logic in your head. Consider well how you respond to the argument above. It will determine how you are seen by others. Consider well your thoughts, and don't respond in anger, but respond with thought and logic.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 11, 2015, 02:16:02 PM
the overwhelming majority of jews (whether secular or 'religious') actively and viciously oppose Christianity;

if they didn't do that, then, i wouldn't have much of an issue with them;

apart, of course, from their Holocaustianity....which, even if it was true (which a 10-yr old could tell you it ain't :( ), its way past high time that they SHUT UP abt;

i think Norman Finkelstein (one of the small handful of jews i have any time for) said it best when he called it a scam industry
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on August 11, 2015, 02:49:10 PM
the overwhelming majority of jews (whether secular or 'religious') actively and viciously oppose Christianity;

I don't know of any religious Jew who "viciously oppose(s) Christianity", although of course we disagree with it. Then again so does any Hindu, Muslim, or what-have-you. Most religious Jews just want to be left alone. As far as the secular variety, I'll grant that about half of them, like I said in my above post, viciously oppose not just Christianity, but any religion, because they tend to be atheist assholes. In fact, they tend to oppose Judaism more than they do any other religion!

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if they didn't do that, then, i wouldn't have much of an issue with them;

apart, of course, from their Holocaustianity....which, even if it was true (which a 10-yr old could tell you it ain't :( ), its way past high time that they SHUT UP abt;

i think Norman Finkelstein (one of the small handful of jews i have any time for) said it best when he called it a scam industry[/color][/size][/font]

Obviously we are going to disagree here, in terms of whether the Holocaust happened. HOWEVER, I shall go with you this far: Although I believe, like any human being, that the deaths of 11 million persons (6 million Jews and 5 million others, 1 million of whom were Gypsies [Hitler had the same goal for them that he had for us] and 4 million others that simply got in the way of Hitler's mad dream) should not be forgotten, I do think that many Jews do spend ENTIRELY too much time worrying about the matter.

In other words, I am saying that it was 70 years ago. Although we must not forget it, by any means, and the lessons from it must be learned well, it is well past time to stop playing the eternal effing victim over it.

The pain runs deep, and I understand that. When you lose your entire family to a madman's fancy, it is all too easy to hold on to that, but I agree with you that it is time to let the past go, and move on. Most of the people that were responsible are dead. 70 years on, it is time to carry on. At least, that is my view. Granted, I am only one person, but there you are.

Of course, you and I will disagree fundamentally on the question of whether it happened or not. But, assuming that it did, I agree it is high time to move forward, not to forget, but at least to stop playing the victim, at least to the degree that SOME (not all) Jews do.

And I assure you, we don't all do that. You tend to hear the ones that do. The loudest wheel gets the grease, especially in a country like Australia, where our population is practically nil in the first place.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 12, 2015, 01:12:00 PM
i post these personal testimonies (one of former USMC staff sergeant Shawn Weed and one of a former atheist, Brian Melvin [now no longer an atheist!  ::) ] ) because they provide unusual insights into what "Hell" actually is;

i contend that neither of these testimonies contradict Scripture but they certainly give additional insight;

Weed's testimony provides an interesting perspective on what may lie beyond the Earth 'snow-globe'...a chaotic region of quantum instability and uncertainty (Enoch refers to such a region in the BoE);

(for me, the really unsettling thing abt Weed's testimony is that, apparently, he did not even know he was dead..... :o ....he actually thought he was still alive, moving around, sitting down, walking, talking &c.....in that light...."death" doesn't sound so traumatic after all, does it?  ::) .....clearly, its not 'deat', per se, that you should fear but what comes after......that is: unless yr right with Jesus Christ.....then...."the coast is clear"   :-B  )

Melvin's testimony shows that Hell is not necessarily all fire, brim-stone and torture....although that is, certainly, a major part of it.....most likely reserved for the worst of sinners  :(

his account of "cubes" is very interesting....considering that they are sort of "fifth dimensional" (Dr Who fans will recognise this allusion)......


Shawn Weed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPCXzkvlxds

Brian Melvin.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2X5uAB692A
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Saddam Hussein on August 12, 2015, 02:19:03 PM
fake and gay
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 24, 2015, 12:04:39 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbPIap1eZAE
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 26, 2015, 08:08:09 AM
Marc Bolan, of T Rex fame (who i used to listen to as a v small 'nipper'  ::) ) is reputed to have "sold his soul to the Devil" for fame and fortune;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Bolan ;

wonder where he is now and if he regrets his few, brief yrs of fame?

on that note.....an interesting little 'read'......

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Miscellaneous/satanic_roots_of_rock.htm ;
( much more here (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/devils_music.htm) )


John Lennon....where is he now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTGGDqv3C2E

John Lennon publicly mocked the Lord Jesus Christ;
that was stupid, stupid, STUPID;   :P
@ the very least, he should'v kept his thoughts to him-self or close friends;
interesting, that, whilst crying out to Jesus in Hell, the Lord wouldn't even look @ him!  :(
how pathetic!

can "deals with the Devil" be annulled?
YES!
but only by the blood of Jesus Christ and only if you fully and sincerely repent and turn to Him and are filled with the Holy Ghost!
every 'concession' that the Devil gives you has steel cables of conditions attached.....its not worth it :(
(he who 'dines with the Devil' must foot the bill!)
only a fool would willingly 'deal' with a psychopath!   :-\

instead, "make a deal" with Jesus Christ.... His yoke is easy and His burden is light   ;D
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 26, 2015, 08:44:44 AM
Jesus Christ can save from the gutter-most to the utter-most....BUT...no man cometh to the Son unless the Father draweth him......   :o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8138p4Dppg
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 26, 2015, 08:47:45 AM
what awaits you if you die this very night?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGAGKOoicAE
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on August 26, 2015, 09:47:51 AM
A cold wet hole in the ground.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Pongo on August 26, 2015, 12:51:28 PM

John Lennon publicly mocked the Lord Jesus Christ;
that was stupid, stupid, STUPID;   :P
@ the very least, he should'v kept his thoughts to him-self or close friends;

I thought that Jesus could read your mind and would judge you accordingly even if you silently didn't believe in him.  Is this no longer the case?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: LuggerSailor on August 26, 2015, 07:31:21 PM

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TGB;DR
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: markjo on August 26, 2015, 10:19:18 PM
John Lennon publicly mocked the Lord Jesus Christ;
that was stupid, stupid, STUPID;   :P
@ the very least, he should'v kept his thoughts to him-self or close friends;
Maybe he thought that Jesus has a better sense of humor than you do.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on August 28, 2015, 09:12:07 PM
Dude, at least Bickles can write. He at least manages to put connected sentences together so that coherent thoughts come forth. You write like you're on marijuana. I can't even understand what you're trying to say here.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Saddam Hussein on August 29, 2015, 06:56:54 AM
I agree with beardo.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 29, 2015, 07:19:41 AM
"the mark of the Beast" will be some-thing that is, still, more or less hidden.....
personally, i lean towards the view(s) of the likes of Doug Hamp, L A Marzulli, Chuck Missler and Tom Horn who contend that it will be some-thing (maybe a "vaccination", maybe a bio-chip implant vis á vis "trans-humanism") that will, in effect, actually alter yr DNA code some-how so that it is no longer human;

yr DNA will then either resemble or very closely imitate "fallen angel DNA";

once that occurs, you are no longer fully human and, thus, are, de facto and de jure, "irredeemable", as it were;
(the gross skin infections./sores that appear on those who have 'received the Mark' [as per Revelation of St John] may well be an initial "immune reaction" from the human immune system to 'alien'/demonic DNA trying to integrate itself into the formerly human metabolism....its quite possible that there could well be some 'reptilian' aspect/appearance to this because all the evidence, both anecdotal and circumstantial, seems to indicate that demons/fallen angels [two different things, of course] have a 'reptilian'-type appearance....although they are able to temporarily disguise this )

it is very unlikely that "the Mark of the Beast" will be some-thing as straight-forward as an RFID implant or, even, a tattoo....because both of those could either be cut out or removed.....

that said, it is, most certainly, possible that the 'Mark' could be accompanied by some clearly, distinguishable physical feature.....perhaps an alteration in the human physiogonomy to a vague, reptilian 'resemblance'    :-\

as for their being demonic 'bases' on the Moon......that's not really possible because the Moon, AFA most FETs can tell, ain't really a 3d object....in all likelihood, its some sort of 2d concave, mirror set up....... see Crrow777's stuff on Y-tb (https://www.youtube.com/user/Crrow777/videos) with respect to this......
(how-ever, it is v likely that there are, indeed, alien/demonic bases under the Earth, under mountains or, even, under the oceans)

one interesting perspective on this End Times deception is how, in the light of the increasing revelations abt the FE and the actual nature of the Universe, Satan could now pull off his "great deception"....which, of course, all hinges on a spherical Earth, solar system, other planets, galaxies &c scenario;
just consider the mind-boggling n° of science fiction books and films over the last five or six decades that have 'pused'/promulgated this view of the Universe  :o

its my under-standing that "the Antichrist" was going to be presented as some sort of 'alien'/super-human saviour from another 'planet' or, maybe, dimension......but....it seems that this will all fall in a heap very shortly as per FET;
(after all: there's not that many in the world today who would waste their time with a mere 'human'-type politician....no matter how charismatic...most poliitcians these days seem to be abt as popular as child molesters :(  )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcDEYbLE91o
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on August 29, 2015, 07:34:34 AM
no one cares, bickles.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 29, 2015, 07:35:31 AM
is most of our current technology 'sourced' from alien/demonic/fallen angels?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfJDtgnRZtw
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on August 29, 2015, 07:53:36 AM
no one cares, bickles.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Blanko on August 29, 2015, 09:32:17 AM
no one cares, bickles.

If you don't care, you don't have to post at all. That is not an excuse to resort to low-content posting.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on August 29, 2015, 12:07:00 PM
"babies in hell" sounds like the foul doctrines of Calvinism to me :(

all the evidence from NDEs clearly says OTW......

also: shall not the Judge of all the Earth do right?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFRRmbPildw
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: beardo on August 29, 2015, 05:53:26 PM
You won't be changing anyones views with your radical bullshit, so why do you even bother?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Tau on August 29, 2015, 10:51:01 PM
There is a man named Andrew who went to hell and saw his aborted kids in hell. Aborted grow up in hell for 33 and a half years. So, don't abort your kids. Contraceptives = early abortion
 
Orthodox Church doesn't change its doctrines.
They remained the same for 2000 years.
Forgive me.

If God chooses to send aborted babies to hell, that's God's fault. Not ours. Don't blame us for God's war crimes.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on August 30, 2015, 09:28:59 AM
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. If a dog is present in house or church, then the Holy Spirit will leave.  

God is literally less powerful than a chihuahua.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Benjamin Franklin on August 30, 2015, 05:51:52 PM
no one cares, bickles.

If you don't care, you don't have to post at all. That is not an excuse to resort to low-content posting.
Currently posting in a high-quality, high-content thread.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on August 31, 2015, 02:39:06 AM
I am convinced that FEED THE PIGEONS is stoned on some damned good Pot! Dude, can I try some of that stuff?

I am actually just kidding, since I have tried pot, and don't really like what it does to me. But seriously PIGEONS, that stuff you're on is really interesting. If it makes you write the way you do, what must it be doing to your mind?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Saddam Hussein on August 31, 2015, 04:43:59 AM
It's copypasta, according to a Google search.  I have no idea where it originated, so I won't bother posting any links.
Title: who shall free me from the body of this death?
Post by: mister bickles on August 31, 2015, 11:47:54 AM
a commentary on the Epistle of St Paul to the Romans;

the law of sin and death  :(

no man can be 'saved' by the keeping of the Law because no man can keep it;

from the Law comes only condemnation;

only the Spirit of the Living Christ can free you!  ;D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC89Cc-wDlk
Title: Buddhist monk dies, goes to HELL....given another chance!
Post by: mister bickles on September 01, 2015, 08:41:58 AM
the testimony of "Athet Pyan Shinthaw Paulu" (Paul who came back to life!), a devout Buddhist monk, who was dead for THREE WHOLE DAYS   :o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA7VIDyk_s8


an amusing little docco' from the BBC.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnu34EHgcC8

(whilst some Buddhist teachings do, indeed, resemble Christian ones (http://frimmin.com/faith/lotuscross.php), to claim that Jesus was a Buddhist monk is drawing a very long bow indeed.....plus.....the death & resurrection of Jesus Christ totally negates all such "analogies".....as St Paul noted: if Christ be not risen then our faith is in vain! )
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on September 03, 2015, 09:37:51 AM
Buddha prophecises of the coming of the Christ!   :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdO7IDCoIH0
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on September 03, 2015, 11:03:56 AM
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no man can be 'saved' by the keeping of the Law because no man can keep it

Then it's a shitty law. What is the purpose of law part from to expect those under its aegis to obey it?

It's like writing a law dictating that the minimum speed limit on motorways is 750mph -- no-one can possibly obey it -- then demanding that everybody who disobeys the law is to be condemned to life imprisonment unless they give praise to Andy Green, driver of the ThrustSSC who is the only person who was able to meet the law by driving at 760.mph
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on September 03, 2015, 12:52:27 PM
the purpose of the law is to show man that he cannot "get right with God" by his own efforts;
that man is a worthless, condemned sinner only fit for damnation in the eyes of a holy God;
there is one thing and one thing only that can justify man in God's sight....the vicarious, shed blood of Jesus Christ;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vj0QL4iKnM


when I see the blood, i will pass over
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: garygreen on September 03, 2015, 01:22:12 PM
it sucks that god created us just to punish us for not being good enough. that was a bit of a dick move.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on September 03, 2015, 01:38:04 PM
Almighty God created man for the purpose of fellow-shipping with Him and to love Him;
even the angels do not have this privilege;
man was, originally, higher than the angels and, in fact, the angels feared Adam;
how-ever, man fell....as Almighty God knew he would;
but.....Almighty God provided a way for man to regain that fellowship....the Lord Jesus Christ;
that is the only way to "get right with God";
without holiness, it is impossible to see God;
God wants us to be holy so we can be with Him;
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on September 04, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
Interesting, Bickles. Of course, as Jews, we would argue that ONLY Jews are held to obedience to the 613 Commandments of the Law, and that non-Jews are held to the 7 Laws of Noah, which are as follows, to wit:

Do not deny G-d.
Do not blaspheme G-d.
Do not murder.
Do not engage in incest, adultery, pederasty or bestiality, as well as homosexual relations.
Do not steal.
Do not eat of a live animal.
Establish courts/legal system to ensure law and obedience.

Wikipedia has an interesting article on the subject. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah

But back to your point. When you say that Angels do not have the privileges of being with G-d in the way that we do, I would agree with that statement. Angels do not have free will in the way that Humans do. Humans COULD fall, because they could choose to obey or disobey G-d. Angels obey because they haven't got a choice in the matter.

As far as perfect obedience to the Jewish Law, well, anybody who thinks they can do that is an idiot. That is of course what sacrifices are for, to atone for sin. In the absence of sacrifices, we have prayers to make up for them, of course. And there are very specific prayers set for each sacrifice. I certainly won't go into detail on the subject, because we would be here all day, but, by way of example, Jews normally pray three times a day. On Saturday, the Holy Sabbath, there is a fourth Prayer, the Mussaf, which is prayed in lieu of the Temple Sacrifice that would have been performed on that day.

And so there is for each sacrifice, a prayer exists to substitute for it until such time as the Temple can be rebuilt and the Fire Offerings of Israel be restored, for which we pray daily.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on September 04, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
even "the Laws of Noah" which, in and of them-selves, seem fairly straight-forward and easy would be totally impossible for man to keep;  :(

Jesus said that even if a man looks at a woman with lust, then, he has committed adultery in his heart;

the Scriptures say that the heart (i.e: the flesh) is desperately wicked and deceitful above all things!

St Paul, the great apostle to the gentiles, bemoaned the fact that "in me dwells no good thing";

Jesus' admonition reminds me of a sermon my old pastor preached many years ago.....abt a passage in the Epistle of St James;

But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.


he likened the human psyche/flesh to a large work-bench in a garage where a home hobbyist had lots of little projects in different stages of completion......but the ultimate result of them all, upon completion, is death ("the wages of sin is death")....the Devil wants people to commit greater and greater sins so that they are further and further removed from God's grace.....so...."a white lie" can, for instance, lead to "a black (intentional) lie" to intentional false witness to guilt to anger to fear to hatred and, then, if the opportunity presents itself, to murder......the ultimate conclusion of the "project" :(

all  this, of course, totally negates most of modern psychiatry although not necessarily the 'approach' of Thomas Szasz;
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Szasz ; )

strange that Szasz is an 'atheist';
maybe he should'v read C S Lewis  :(

Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on September 05, 2015, 10:58:11 AM
Hello, Mr. Bickles:

Your post is an interesting one, and deserves a considered response, so I shall take each of your points one by one. Although we do have our differences, I am coming to respect that you are quite knowledgeable in Christian theology. So, allow me to "dig in" to your very interesting article, if you will.

even "the Laws of Noah" which, in and of them-selves, seem fairly straight-forward and easy would be totally impossible for man to keep;  :(

Jesus said that even if a man looks at a woman with lust, then, he has committed adultery in his heart;

Indeed Jesus did say that. I have read the New Testament twice myself, and I can of course confirm that you are correct on that. However, I think the Law itself is intended to refer to the literal commission of adultery, in this particular case.

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the Scriptures say that the heart (i.e: the flesh) is desperately wicked and deceitful above all things!

I actually wouldn't argue with that, what with my long experience of knowing that trying to obey 613 Mitzvot (Commandments) is fundamentally impossible, hence the need for the Jewish Sacrificial System, and Fire Offerings of Israel that I discussed in my last post, that have been replaced, in the absence of the Holy Temple, by special prayers, until such time as the Holy Temple can be rebuilt.

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St Paul, the great apostle to the gentiles, bemoaned the fact that "in me dwells no good thing";

And it was fundamentally Pauline theology that understood the death of Jesus to be a Sacrifice to replace the Fire Offerings of Israel. Whilst I disagree with him, I do to an extent understand his logic.

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Jesus' admonition reminds me of a sermon my old pastor preached many years ago.....abt a passage in the Epistle of St James;

But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

James 1:15. Interesting passage. Having read it in context, as I am sure you also did, the Disciple of Jesus is saying that no man should accuse G-d of tempting him, but rather, should acknowledge that it is his own desire that tempts him. I certainly would not quarrel with that.

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he likened the human psyche/flesh to a large work-bench in a garage where a home hobbyist had lots of little projects in different stages of completion......but the ultimate result of them all, upon completion, is death ("the wages of sin is death")....the Devil wants people to commit greater and greater sins so that they are further and further removed from God's grace.....so...."a white lie" can, for instance, lead to "a black (intentional) lie" to intentional false witness to guilt to anger to fear to hatred and, then, if the opportunity presents itself, to murder......the ultimate conclusion of the "project" :( 

Now that is a thought that deserves very careful consideration. In spite of our different solutions to the moral quandry of the human condition (you the Sacrifice of Jesus, me the Fire Offerings of Israel), I think the basic argument that evil starts small and gets bigger, and bigger, and bigger, until we are completely dominated by it, is a logical one.

I further would not dispute that the wages of sin ARE death. And lets face it, Friend Bickles, you and I are but little things in the vastness of G-'s far-flung Creation. He created us PURELY out of love. He did not create us because he needed us, or for any reason other than that he loves us. It would be within the realm of his perfect and most profound justice to wipe us off the face of the Earth like bugs. Just as he was justified in the Flood, so he would be justified in taking both you and me and smashing our wee little heads. Although I am NOT a Calvinist, by any means, I shall quote Jonathan Edwards. We are sinners in the hands of G-d. I don't care to MAKE him angry, thank you!

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all  this, of course, totally negates most of modern psychiatry although not necessarily the 'approach' of Thomas Szasz;
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Szasz ; )

strange that Szasz is an 'atheist';
maybe he should'v read C S Lewis  :(

Really not strange that he was an atheist at all, although unfortunate. He was a Jewish psychiatrist. Most of them ARE atheists. As for reading CS Lewis, I actually agree with you. I find him to be VERY stimulating reading, on both moral/religious grounds as well as entertainment (in terms of his fiction) grounds.

So, that is my perspective on your interesting post. I am most curious to read your response, which I have no doubt will be equally fascinating. I look forward to it. Until then, I wish you peace, and many blessings.
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on September 15, 2015, 04:46:33 AM
the New Birth in the New Testament;
(he puts it better than i could  :(  )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg21qNmcwzQ
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: mister bickles on September 16, 2015, 06:38:11 AM
normally, i wouldn't venture to post links to this fellow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Linder) here since he is, quite definitely, anti-Christian but his audio-book of David Kupelian's The Marketing of Evil (http://www.amazon.com/David-Kupelian/e/B001JRYOEQ) is brilliant...esp his reading/commentary on the last chapter of same  "Last, Best Hope: The Fall and Rise of American Christianity";

it is a scathing critique of many American (and other Western) Christians who think salvation is nothing more than a get-out-of-Hell free card and a carte blanche to live how-ever they damn well please totally ignoring Jesus' strident injunctions to "keep the commandments";  >:(


mp3 link (http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/Massive/AudioBooks/Kupelian-TMoE-Ch10-END.mp3)
(go to abt the 1hr mark for the really 'meaty' stuff..... other chapters here (http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1910720&postcount=553))

☞ edit ☜

more highly insightful commentary from the abv-mentioned source......
viz a 1977 book, "The Feminization of American Culture" (http://www.amazon.com/The-Feminization-American-Culture-Douglas/dp/0374525587), by a US feminist, Ann Douglas......

old-style Calvinism with masculine preachers, intellectual rigor, foundation of America's first and top universities, gives way, via complete disestablishment of Protestant churches by 1833, to a softened, sentimentalized, femized consumer mass culture dominated by a new alliance between a new breed of preachers and middle-class women. originally the religious DOCTRINE mattered in a church, when colonies in NE at least were founded; but this concern declined, and churchgoing became mere middle-class social function. feeling > thought. niceness > rigor. femininity > logic or masculinity, first within the cultural sphere (evolution from 1820 to 1875), then later, in 1900 on, in ENTIRE sphere (aided by jews, the feminized mindset for whites dominates not just the reading culture of middle class, but the entire, uh, Ideosphere). protestantism was a very different thing after than before. she puts dates at 1820 and 1875. different type of man becomes preacher; different concerns (serious theology vs catering to women clients/customers) in 1900 than in 1800. loss of status as preacher becomes another supplicant to the Shesus. from Edwardseans (sinners in the hands of an angry god - focused on INDIVIDUAL soul and sin and salvation) to namby-pamby anti-intellectual feelings-mush centered on love - which quickly perverted into Social Gospel around 1900. christianity in america evolved into something very useful to jews, just about the time they showed up. of course she doesnt touch on that part. ... douglas laments the rise of an anti-intellectual mass-consumerist, feminized but not feminist american culture; she wishes calvinist patriarchal intellectual rigor had opened to others rather than lowered. but can you have serious intellectual culture AND feminism at the same time? is intellectual culture consistent with non-patriarchal values, with matriarchy? douglas thinks so. but she might be wrong
(my comments: jews didn't start to have a major impact on US culture until well after WWII...so....this devolution of Christianity from the devout Calvinism of Jonathan Edwards must, here, be laid @ the feet of other, more sinister forces...."doctrines of demons" operating subtly behind the scenes and laying the foundatins for "the great falling away" of the latter ¼ of the twentieth century)

intro' (http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/Massive/AudioBooks/Douglas-The_Feminization_of_American_Culture-Intro.mp3)

(chptr I...."Clerical Disestablishment")

chptr I, prt i; (http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/Massive/AudioBooks/Douglas-FAC-Ch1a.mp3)

chptr I, prt ii ; (http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/Massive/AudioBooks/Douglas-FAC-Ch1b.mp3)
Title: 91st Psalm
Post by: mister bickles on September 18, 2015, 03:51:41 PM
the 91st Psalm.....read it, believe it and live it.....and you will be delivered  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwhKfqg7e1k

the Douay-Rheims version (prblby the most accurate English translation, from the Vulgate)

Qui habitat.
The just is secure under the protection of God.

The praise of a canticle for David.

He that dwelleth in the aid of the most High, shall abide under the protection of the God of Jacob.
He shall say to the Lord: Thou art my protector, and my refuge: my God, in him will I trust.
For he hath delivered me from the snare of the hunters: and from the sharp word.
He will overshadow thee with his shoulders: and under his wings thou shalt trust.
His truth shall compass thee with a shield: thou shalt not be afraid of the terror of the night.

Of the arrow that flieth in the day, of the business that walketh about in the dark: of invasion, or of the noonday devil.
A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand: but it shall not come nigh thee. 
But thou shalt consider with thy eyes: and shalt see the reward of the wicked.
Because thou, O Lord, art my hope: thou hast made the most High thy refuge.
There shall no evil come to thee: nor shall the scourge come near thy dwelling.

For he hath given his angels charge over thee; to keep thee in all thy ways.
In their hands they shall bear thee up: lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. 
Thou shalt walk upon the asp and the basilisk: and thou shalt trample under foot the lion and the dragon.
Because he hoped in me I will deliver him: I will protect him because he hath known my name. 
He shall cry to me, and I will hear him: I am with him in tribulation, I will deliver him, and I will glorify him.

I will fill him with length of days; and I will shew him my salvation.
Title: forgiveness
Post by: mister bickles on September 19, 2015, 11:47:09 AM
the importance of forgivenes.....get direct access to Almighty God's power by praying the prayer that Jesus prayed on the Cross


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt3rOp2Vibk
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on September 19, 2015, 03:21:42 PM
Does it bother you in the least that you're just talking to yourself?
Title: Re: A Commentary on Religion and its Societal Implications
Post by: Rushy on September 19, 2015, 03:37:46 PM
Does it bother you in the least that you're just talking to yourself?

Well now he isn't, genius.
Title: get LITTLE before Almighty God
Post by: mister bickles on September 28, 2015, 06:55:57 AM
a v good msg.....well worth a 'view'/listen....apropos Romans VIII;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0rH0qL8Gwo